vroger1: Hi all. I am a total Lumix guy-but sorry, although it means nothing- my very first reaction is "G-d that's an ugly little sucker" I am sure it will prove to be a superb camera- but boy is it ugly. But that's just my opinion.Now I'll start reading the specs. VRR
You actually get it!!
Hi all. I am a total Lumix guy-but sorry, although it means nothing- my very first reaction is "G-d that's an ugly little sucker" I am sure it will prove to be a superb camera- but boy is it ugly. But that's just my opinion.Now I'll start reading the specs. VRR
vroger1: One caveat. When I bought the Leica 25mm Summilux some years ago, I already had the 20mm Lumix 1.7. The latter lens is good- the much more expensive Leica branded lens is great. The difference was noticeable even in the sample comparisons by DP Review. Lumix lenses are very good- but Leica branded are probably worth the price difference. VRR
I am sure you'll get it- I found the Lumix branded lenses tobe extraordinary (witness the 45-200 http://v-images.smugmug.com/Other/IN-PARIS-2011/18852693_D5zdL8#!i=1461093880&k=tqV5xgx&lb=1&s=A )- but with respect to the 1.4 Leica branded- the kick up in sharpness- is more than warranted (http://v-images.smugmug.com/GENERALSTREETIMAGES/2011-IMAGES/18183376_36DHSf#!i=1589033514&k=VN77t8t&lb=1&s=A). VRR
Zvonimir Tosic: Does not matter what this camera is not. But for that what it is, a beautiful and functional little device. Kudos to Panasonic.
Just a comment- from an old time photographer that Panasonic listens to us more than any other innovative manufacturer. Though I have standardized on the Leica Typ 109 (Panasonic Lumix LX100) a digicam that does "everything" and does it well, over and over again Panasoinic says: "This is what they want". Fast lens- Fast lens superzoom (FZ200). The only problem is each time they come out with a viewfinder equipped professional grade (by feature) digicam, I buy it. pure joy from Panasonc. VRR
One caveat. When I bought the Leica 25mm Summilux some years ago, I already had the 20mm Lumix 1.7. The latter lens is good- the much more expensive Leica branded lens is great. The difference was noticeable even in the sample comparisons by DP Review. Lumix lenses are very good- but Leica branded are probably worth the price difference. VRR
I never thought I'd be a critic of Canon. I have said in the past and continue to say, that Canon's problem is that it does not listen to consumers. Now that they have upgraded the M- they will not (at this writing) export it to the United States. Why?...I believe that Canon has been surpassed by other manufacturers who do in fact listen to consumers; that they realize that sales in the US would be limited to photographers who would otherwise buy their DSLRs and do not want to lose that market. I use the Canon M ($250) for black and white almost exclusively. The results are superb. I use the Leica TYP 109 (LX100) for most of my other images and the reults are equal to or better than other digicams including APS C Canons - the key to that Panasonic digicam are the features. They border on the unbelievable. Panasonic LISTENS TO US AND GIVES US WHAT WE WANT AND NEED, I guess that the new M will eventually be sold in the US but it is too little, too late and Canon knows it. vroger
The other day a young lady who is an actress in France, came in out of the rain into my law office. I took the opportunity to run off a few frames with the TYP 109 - (which is the Leica iteration of the LX100). I was in a rush and it wasn't until I checked the specs that I saw the "Intelligent Auto ISO" had set the unit at 1600. There is little to no noticeable noise. I have not used the camera much as of yet- but as I travel in the next two months I have every reason to believe that it will perform up to expectations. I enclose the image.
lacix: ...Guys will whistle after you!
I agree- strictly for women. There is always room for a tiny camera. One doesn't have to use a phone.
Sean65: I always regretted selling my GF1. Took it on a tour of Spain and got some great shots. Although compacts are way better these days I still think cameras like the GM5 are great for shooters who want a smaller camera but don't want to compromise too much on IQ and handling. Great lenses availability too.
Gx1 digicams are a steal these days.
I have owned Lumix digicams for years now- starting with the DMC FZ20 running through the Leica TYP 109 which is a Lumix at heart. I have never had a complaint about any of them- not one. Panasonic really seems to read this column as well as the Leica User's Group Blog. They give us what we are asking for. Much more than Nikon, Canon (alas!) or even Leica itself. Panasonic is really becoming the top dog manufacturer for Enthusiasts-period. VRR
Suffice it to say that Panasonic has given us what we want. Not as good as another digicam?? Of course, no digicam is perfect. Konica back in the 60's had a slogan"The Lens Alone is Worth the Price". Owning a steady stream of Lumixes, with Leica branded lenses- as well as Lumix lenses all since the FZ20 I agree. For once there is a company that has heard what we are looking for and given it to us. Fast lens, EVF, a zoom rather than a 35mm equivalent fixed lens (the next model will probably have a longer zoom)- and FINALLY a sensor size that makes sense. I pre ordered the Leica edition immediately when I read the specs- even before I handled it at Photo Expo. No digicam is perfect- No Digicam will outshine every other digicam out there- certainly not in this size configuration, but as a photographer for all my life- having had every conceivable 35mm analogue camera (all now in storage) for once I can crow-"They've nailed it- this is what I was looking for!!" VRR
I remember when all I wanted was a "Mecablitz".
Mike FL: Half of the price goes to the name as Leica is Leica. Other than that:
- Get any Fuji body + Fujifilm XF 23mm F1.4 If you want better sensor and better SPEC'd lens for the same sensor size and FL.
- Go for the best of the best, Sony RX1.
- Still like the Leica look, BUT not Leica price? Fuji X100T looks more liking a Leica than a real Leica.
You still want get exactly the same camera but half of the price? It is POSSIBLE if Panasonic decided to re-badge this Leica to Panasonic... Why not?
P.S.Oh, almost forget, Panasonic should be add a built in GRIP. or other people will complain/think Panasonic do NOT know how to design a camera, just like they complain/say-to Canon G7X, Sony RX100s...
Never see any one complain Leica having no DRIP. Never, ever...
This camera is German made, I believe- Panasonic would have to have it made locally in Japan or China (wherever Panasonics are made) in order to rebadge it. That would "dilute" the Leica name with respect to models they market as German made. VRR
I wouldn't be surprised if Panasonic didn't have some sort of restrictive covenant with Leica, preventing the latter from competing with Panasonic's interests in marketing "Leica" branded lenses. VRR
Having owned all the Powershot "G" cameras up to and including the G12- and then going to the G1X I am used to making compromises. At least they all had a viewfinder (poor though it may be), that's the only way I roll. Anyhow, I wait with bated breath for the in depth review of the LX100 -the Leica model of which (TYP109) I have preordered and have been told that it will arrive in January. This review of the G7 X was awful- the lack of an accessory shoe was the last straw. Honestly, I did not handle the camera at PhotoExpo because the specs were so far out of line for my uses. As noted "glorified 'S' " is most appropriate. VRR
The reviews mirror what other sites have stated. It never ceases to amaze me that a company such as Leica could turn out a product which is so esoteric. I don't believe I have ever seen one in use. This problem is not strictly Leica's. Canon has for years striven to produce digicams with wide appeal but always leave something out- be it a viewfinder (Optical or EVF) or a fast lens. The only company in solely my opinion, which has time and again succeeded in bringing out digicams with the widest possible appeal is Panasonic.
Sheer idiocy. No interest whatsoever.
lolopasstrail: "The line between the compact and the SLR began to blur somewhat with the disruptive influence of the Advanced Photo System (APS)"
We may forget that when 35mm cameras were new, they were referred to for decades as "miniature" format cameras. 35mm- now known as "Full Frame"- was the original compact camera system.
And there were "advanced compacts" even in the 35mm film days. Ricoh had one, so did Nikon, so did Contax. These were not cheap and had permanently attached lenses, either zoom or single focal length.
Leica even had a "miniature M"- the CL, which took two dedicated lenses- a 40mm and a 90mm.
Let's not forget the greatest miniature "Leica" ever made- the Minolta CLE. Came with an "M" mount- spectacular Rokkor 40mm f2 and a revolutionary patterned shutter curtain which exposed film in accordance with its emulsion. Best analogue rangefinder I own.
I have pre-ordered the Leica version of the LX100. Frankly the convenience of the kit (assuming DPR tests work out and I like it at Photo+Expo in NY) make this an excellent choice for the street photography I enjoy doing. The Canon G1X is just too slow in operation and lens. The DLux 6 gives me a bit too much noise. This is a good compromise. We'll see. As to"Why buy either?", the Lumix GX1 is perfect except that switching lenses slows me down. I'll still use it for the 0.95 with an M mount which I use
Anyone think there'll be a "Leica" version?? They didn't bother with the GM1- buth this one will sell like hotcackes...I think.