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photo perzon: Prices of m4/3 are now twice of DSLRs such as Nikon D3100, 5100 and three times high performance compacts such as the LX7. Then their lenses are also $ 1,000 easy.
@Pablo4, I've owned both the 5n and OMD and I have to say you're talking from the wrong orifice, or maybe it is the right one in your case.
Excellent, just what the world needs, another small black camera losing the inherent advantages of its format (ergonomics) whilst still have to mount large lenses on it, way to go Canon, let me guess, it was a friday afternoon and you only had a cigarette packet to write on ?
topstuff: It's all a bit "meh" is'nt it?
Is it just me or is it really hard to get enthusiastic about these shapeless black plastic lumps?
Good IQ is a given. But then you get great IQ with a NEX, or M4/3 or whatever.
Other manufacturers are starting to make cameras which are covetable. They are nice objects to own.
Canon don't seem to get this. All their products are so darn plasticky and dull and generally hard to love. At the leisure end of the market, this matters IMO.
And there was me thinking Liberace was dead.......
It's funny reading these comments, I've never yet met anyone who could tell me the exact camera which took a given photo, nor do non-photographers actually care what took the photo, only photographers seem to worry about that.
I can tell you for sure that I can take photo's with my Nokia 808, and with 2 mins processing you would be swearing they were taken with a DSLR, in fact it will beat plenty of DSLR/lens combinations in terms of resolution. So for all you angst ridden camera snobs out there, camera phones are here to stay, get over it, they're just another tool in the bag/pocket. No camera I've ever used made me a better or worse photographer, that's down to me.
It's not a camera that interests me personally but what does anyone expect for that price? A few years ago people would have been drooling over that range, some people need to get real.
kindofblue7: Reading these comments it seems that I am largely alone in my opinion of this camera; I think it's a great camera and it's a shame it's being discontinued. I too thought that the design was ugly when I first saw the press releases on this site last year, but I still wanted one because it was a cheap way to get into the K-mount and the quality of the sensor was on par with the K-5. After I recieved the camera and held it in my hands I began to appreciate the design and the high quality construction. I liked it so much I bought another one because I new that the camera would soon be discontinued. I bought my K-01's 3 weeks ago, so I was able to take advantage of the low price they sell for now. I hope that Pentax continues with this concept but the next camera in this line should have vast improvements to autofocus, ergonomy, and an EVF should be added.
@ anthony mazzeri - nah..anything that looks great but is also functional, i.e not the K-01. But hey, you got it right because it's been a blazing success......hasn't it???
kindofblue7: Reading these comments it seems that I am largely alone in my opinion of this camera; I think it's a great camera and it's a shame it's being discontinued. I too thought that the design was ugly when I first saw the press releases on this site last year, but I still wanted one because it was a cheap way to get into the K-mount and the quality of the sensor was on par with the K-5. After I recieved the camera and held it in my hands I began to appreciate the design and the high quality construction. I liked it so much I bought another one because I new that the camera would soon be discontinued. I bought my K-01's 3 weeks ago, so I was able to take advantage of the low price they sell for now. I hope that Pentax continues with this concept but the next camera in this line should have vast improvements to autofocus, ergonomy, and an EVF should be added.
It's camera so ugly that Pentax decided to kill it rather than offer it for adoption.....'nuff said.
papillon_65: Entirely predictable, a concept so FUBAR it defies belief that anyone thought it could work. A large mirrorless camera with no evf, slow af and brightly coloured lights. Great for the Manga teens but if anyone had actually asked any semi serious photographer whether they would be seen dead with it then they would have had their answer, and saved themselves an awful lot of money.
Sorry Pentax lovers but there is a lot more to a camera than having a nice sensor and pretty coloured lights. Please don't tell me I'm a design dinosaur who "doesn't get it", I laughed at it when it was released and I'm laughing now, a classic case of "The emperors new clothes" I'm afraid. If you want to do something radical at least ensure that you include the advantages of the chosen format and make it functional. Two of the biggest advantages were missing - size and evf, epic fail.....
My OMD produces image quality well up to par thanks, I don't need to pixel peep and navel gaze over minute differences that won't matter in real word usage. If you feel the need to do that then may I recommend the Nikon D800, that should just about cover it. Unfortunately it doesn't have a traffic light system of lighting or a purple version but you can't have everything.
Jimmy jang Boo: I hardly think the K-01 failed because most people care more about how a camera *looks* than the images it produces. People who think that way are more interested in bling than photography. Any self respecting photographer would prefer K-01 IQ to anything m43.
IMO the K-01 didn't succeed because Pentax missed the point of why people want a mirrorless camera--which should be smaller and lighter than a DSLR. Sony succeeded with the NEX because they put a very good sensor in a small light weight body, that retained a VF and included a flip out screen. But that also entailed a whole new line of *lighter* lenses to keep the weight down.
You clearly didn't read the initial comments on here when it was released, derision doesn't even begin to cover it. If people think it looks cr@p then they're hardly going to bother going to a shop to try one are they? (let alone order one online.). It failed because it looks rubbish and it doesn't offer the main advantages of the format, it's as simple as that.
Entirely predictable, a concept so FUBAR it defies belief that anyone thought it could work. A large mirrorless camera with no evf, slow af and brightly coloured lights. Great for the Manga teens but if anyone had actually asked any semi serious photographer whether they would be seen dead with it then they would have had their answer, and saved themselves an awful lot of money.
Sorry Pentax lovers but there is a lot more to a camera than having a nice sensor and pretty coloured lights. Please don't tell me I'm a design dinosaur who "doesn't get it", I laughed at it when it was released and I'm laughing now, a classic case of "The emperors new clothes" I'm afraid. If you want to do something radical at least ensure that you include the advantages of the chosen format and make it functional. Two of the biggest advantages were missing - size and evf, epic fail.....
Jesus, what's not to like? The only people getting their knickers in a twist will be the FF snobs who don't like the fact that you can buy a cheap NEX, stick an old lens on it and replicate that FF look. For the rest of us it's another tool which gives us better options and more dof control if we want it. Curmudgeons, camera snobs and pixel heads get over it! nice one Metabones!
Nightwings: Nikon and Canon should get in on 4/3 band wagon .... they'd clean house overnight. Especially if they put out low priced lens adapters the same day they release the new bodies.
@hugo808 if you've never tried it then you're not likely to get it. That's a bit like saying I don't like fish but I've never tried it either, that's what kids do. As it happens a camera like the OMD will outperform many DSLRs in many areas, that's why lots of people are migrating over to it on a daily basis. Check the m4/3's forum.
Nightwings: Nikon and Canon should get in on 4/3 band wagon .... they'd clean house overnight. Especially if they put out low priced lens adapters the same day they release the new bodies.
Well a Panasonic G3 is similar sized to a G15 with much better IQ and costs less so I'm not sure which planet you live on?
ogl: X10 had bad sensor and no good lens. Compare with XZ-2 in RAW and JPEG. XZ-2 is far better.
Actually both the sensor and the lens are very good on the X10, I find it's always a good idea to actually use the equipment I comment on, you should try it sometime.
papillon_65: Is it really that much of a surprise that the OMD pipped the D800? The D800 is a camera that most people can't afford or don't really need, it's also just another FF camera with higher resolution. If you read the m4/3's forum you will see a large number of people buying the OMD and giving up the larger formats because they believe the OMD has now made M4/3's a viable alternative. A combination of the innovative 5 axis stabilisation and excellent image quality, all wrapped up in small stylish body with great lens choices makes the OMD a ground breaking camera. It's been widely lauded by many people and reviews all over the net. So no, not really a surprise.
Ultimately the OMD is a worthy winner and if people disagree then they just need to get over it, it's just a poll, not a cure for cancer.
There's been quite a few people who've given up their FF cameras completely because they see the OMD as "good enough", especially when coupled with the best m4/3's primes. There are undoubtedly some who keep their FF gear but the comment is often made they end up not using it and then sell it off, mainly due to size and weight.
Is it really that much of a surprise that the OMD pipped the D800? The D800 is a camera that most people can't afford or don't really need, it's also just another FF camera with higher resolution. If you read the m4/3's forum you will see a large number of people buying the OMD and giving up the larger formats because they believe the OMD has now made M4/3's a viable alternative. A combination of the innovative 5 axis stabilisation and excellent image quality, all wrapped up in small stylish body with great lens choices makes the OMD a ground breaking camera. It's been widely lauded by many people and reviews all over the net. So no, not really a surprise.
Ultimately the OMD is a worthy winner and if people disagree then they just need to get over it, it's just a poll, not a cure for cancer.
A camera so ugly that people will object to having it pointed at them based purely on it's looks - genius! I'm disappointed there's no British racing green version with chrome trim, I want to look flash while I'm being laughed at.
You can already get them on ebay if anyone's interested.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TIMMY-TIME-CAMERA-TOY-/260945777399?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item3cc19492f7#ht_500wt_1193
Thanks.