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UnChatNoir: Nikon always made camera's with modest but very high quality sensors, and with not the biggest list of (useless) features. The D800 seems to be a camera for an engineer, checking a dozen of settings before shooting pictures. For those that like to impress best friends or neighbors with pictures of the dog in front of the house. Those that push people out of the way in a tourist attraction with the biggest tele while making a lot of fuzz. Be honest. What is this new, crazy Nikon pixel-race? Photography is creativity even beyond imagination. Don't believe your pictures will improve because with a 36.3Mpixel sensor in your camera - a D300 or D700 will still do the job. Also a Canon 5D, even first edition. I've got somehow a feeling that this camera is Nikon's biggest exaggeration and there might be some (bad) surprises in this concept we don't know yet. If you intend to buy this camera I would also put some extra money aside for the new PC & tons of diskspace: you'll need it.
For less than 25% of a D800 price, you can buy a quad core computer with 2To disk and 4 to 8 Gb ram. The problem isn't processing, but archiving. After 10 years, at least 20% of hard disks or CD/DVD are lost due to unrecoverable errors. Even with 5 HD copy and 3 CD/DVD verified evry 2 or 3 year you can loose pictures (I'd to binary edit to recover two out of 100k pictures).
And with larger files the risk is larger too.
PS: the 45Mb loseless RAW give exactly the same result as the 75 Mb uncompressed (it's maintained only for compatibility with old software version's).
munro harrap: Having checked high ISO RAW files up to 6400 from 400iso from a Russian site, if Nikon wanted me to endorse this machine, I would be delighted to do so. At low Isos up to around 200 it gives the same almost noiseless files that the Canon 1Ds MkII does and then at 320 and 400 noise begins to appear, but noise reduction can vanish it well enough. It can be used at 1600 at 100% with nr (I used Lightroom 4 which does these huge files), and the results are good enough at 100%.
The colour is very good. As others have commented the problem is to acquire suitably sharp optics.
As a creative's first line of defence it gets my vote, but the temptation of course, will be to use it at 1/2 size (around 20MP)unless you have to go big. 35MP is very big. Love it yay!!
Hello,
The russian samples are quite unpleasants, and the noise is so different from Cliff Mautner one's (http://www.cmphotography.com/blog.cfm) I'm not sure they are D800 samples (may be H4D50 cropped shoots)
munro harrap: This new Nikon is £900 more than a 5D MkII. That difference would buy you a 5DMkII body AND a new D7000- quite a thought, oh, and a lens if you add on the cost of the D800E.
Nobody writing this preview has said if the D800E can be used for filming without moire wrecking shots. Nobody has said either if the moire reducing edition of Capture NX2 will be bundled FREE (because it is necessary...) with the much more expensive body, or if it will be yet another disc with a month's trial, after which you will HAVE to buy Capture NX2 (because Lightroom et al will not correct moire, now will they?
That is another £180.
I really hope all this confusion can be cleared up soon. Imagine launching a product before customer advice centres know what it does!!!?
When will Dpreview actually have one to discover what it DOES do? I am fed up! Must go to Japan and design the next Canikon!
Capture NX is bundeled with D800E excusivly E, at least in France, nikon.fr has updated his site yesterday yay !!
JMHennig: I thought the MegaPixel War was over a long time ago...
Anybody else worried THIS high of resolution will do more harm than good? I always read that you get diminishing returns when adding more pixels onto the same size sensor and some artifacting will occur at some point.
Guess we'll see, but seems that 36.3MP is better for selling more cameras and stacking up better on paper versus competitors in this class from the likes of Canon than for IQ results, especially considering that low light, high ISO performance is the loser when crazy high MegaPixel is the goal.
Can't wait to hear other thoughts on this
Yes it's geometric, at 100% the confusion circle equals the pixel size (1/205mm for D800 1/118 for D700) in film era lens DOF scales were based on 1/50mm circle.
But Kodakrome 25 is dead, and we have to climb in ISO or use a tripod and smaller apertures.
Derouyag: Nikon Specs say:
Exposure bracketing: 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV
Flash bracketing: 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV
White balance bracketing: 2 to 9 frames in steps of 1, 2 or 3
I kind of thought the specs here were not right.
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/spec.htm
Will Nikon is ready to announce a new flash with 0.24s recycle time.
j2ker: So; who here needs 36MP? I sure don't! I'm quite happy with my 4.1 MP D2hs.
When I print in 50X75cm (20X30 inch) 12Mp is enougth with moderate cropping. But if I've to make a strong perspective correction, one side is crisp and the other is blurry. I hope my new D800 will be good on both sides, and my new 14-24/2.8 is impatient to get it !
Where are the shooting menu banks ? There were 4 in d700 or d300.
NickStournaras: More Mp i.e. smaller sensor pixels and no 16bit raw. I am a Nikon user all my life but i still do not see the point in jumping to this from the D300. I have Terabytes of images as is.
On positive side, With 36Mp, I can use my DX lenses with 25% more resolution, near 2 stops improvement in low light against a D300.
on negatve, I lose 2FPS (with less than 60 shoots out of 30k, it doesn't matter), and get a smaller frame coverage with only 51 af sensors.
If the new capture NX is bundeled with D800e, I'll order it as soon as availlable, and will change for a D801e with 120 af sensors !!