David Smith - Photographer: Not much of an improvement over the X-E1. I don't like the Fuji processing. When you compare the image quality to a camera like the Olympus E-M5, you can clearly see that the output is softer, more processed. At higher ISO's there's less noise, but also less detail. I prefer to do my own processing rather then let the camera do it for me.
Interesting but I find the jpegs from Olympus cameras oversaturated, fake. Panasonic jpegs are too dull for my taste. Fuji files are right in between. They are perfect for my taste.
Well, reading through all the posts I see lots of poor people that can barely afford a panasonic. Sad
utomo99: Instead of just rebranding products, why Leica did not do some smarter way ?1. Put Faster Lens. 2. Read the user comments about that cameras and improve it based on that. and other improvements. And I believe people will respect better
"So it's okay to charge double or more for the same guys for a different faceplate...and anyone that doesn't think so is just jealous?"Nobody's forcing you to buy. Not that you can even afford it anyway.
TakenUserName: Now when will Leica rebadge dome of the Panasonic 4/3 cameras. That is a gaping home in their lineup.
"Leica doesn't rebadge m43 Panasonic cameras because that would strongly hurt the sales of the M system."
Now, that was the best joke ever. Like a junk m4/3 camera (I have one myself) can compete with a Leica MIt's like saying Ferrari can't stick their emblem on a Hunday to avoid competing with the formula 1 car. Hillarious. So much wisdom on dpreview
This is a camera for people that can afford to buy a Leica. Poor people can stick with a much cheaper Panasonic. People that buy a Leica can afford to buy a Porche. For everybody else there is Hunday. Cheers
JDThomas: Everyone who has commented here is pretty much a Leica hater. My question is if you hate Leicas so much and you would never buy a rebranded Panasonic Leica then why bother arguing about it?
My guess is as soon as you saw the headline you KNEW your were going to hate it, so why not just skip over it?
It doesn't matter WHAT Leica puts out about 98% of the active members on DPR fly into a mouth-foaming rage over the price.
You know what's really funny about this? If you go to the Leica camera forums this camera and others like it barely get a mention. Real Leica photographers don't care enough about these types of cameras to bother getting mad about it.
So here you have a bunch of people who don't own any Leica gear and have no intention on buying Leica gear arguing over a camera that most actual Leica users just ignore.
Seems kinda silly, huh?
I wouldn't say they are haters. They simply can't afford to even try it.
Carbon111: Only a $200 surcharge up from the Panasonic version isn't bad considering it comes with Lightroom 5. The body looks much better than the LF1 as well. Looking for a replacement for my LX5 pocket cam...this could be it.
$10 for Lightroom? Cool. Can I give you $20 for your copy? Then you can go and buy two, one to resell and one free for you. I can send Paypal right awayPlease email me at $10Lightroom@yahoo.com
Thank you, thank you so much
Honestly, those f2 samples are horrible.
panpen: $500k for a print? Not to mention the bike is off centre too.
You must be kidding. It was sarcasm. Duh
$500k for a print? Not to mention the bike is off centre too.
I've had them all, from Leica to CaNikon, Fuji, Sony. The Merrill's are the best of the bunch. If you want deep colors, roundness, tons of detail without looking fake/digital, the Merrill is the way to go. The best Leica lens I've had was a 28mm 2.8 R E55, probably in the top 3 best lenses ever. The DP2M lens is on par, if not better, than the Leica lens and all (including the camera) for a mere $799. In Leica world that buys the caps, hood and the box. The 28mm alone costs $2500. For $2k I have a DP1X a DP2M and a DP3M. I'm set for years to come unless Sigma comes with a Foveon body with interchangeable lenses
ddolde: I have the DP2 and its pretty darn good for what it is. I do prefer my Hasselblad H4D-31 though the Sigma comes close in IQ. I could see owning a DP1/2/3 trio and traveling ultra light though. 3K barely buys one HC lens.
The K1 is so good they had to stop the production after only 10 months
I've seen people with Canon 5DIII's taking horrendous pictures of their cats using 85Ls and countless people that could take better pictures with a box and a hole in it. It's all about the human behind the camera. Spending tons of money doesn't make anyone a PRO
Mdphotovideo: In today's photography market why does Everyone feel they can be a professional photographer. It takes years of experience and a huge financial commitment to became a successful social event photographer.
People be aware just because you call yourself a professional does not mean you are. When you decide to do stupid things like shoot an event with an iPhone you bring a sense of amateur status to you and you lower industry standards. Please stop or go find another job that accepts crappy work.
Spending a ton of money doesn't make you a pro
h00ligan: Having bought an rx1 and finding several things not so hot. I believe the rx1 is going back and I've already preordered.
X100 was my favorite fixed lens camera but for the sluuuuuuuuuugishness. If they've fixed that. They have my money.
" It's a fantastic camera for people who know how to shoot."
Let me guess! Like you.
Where did you guys find it in stock in USA?
I don't see why people complain about the price. It is on par with Leica X2. For one extra stop, bigger sensor and movie mode one gets to pay $800 extra. I'd always pay $800 for those extra features.
MarceloSalup: What a non-event. One would think that, today, you could easily develop an interchangeable lens body. Who wants to be limited to the lens that a manufacturer chooses for you?
So true. I cannot even imagine all those suckers paying thousands for Leica X1, X2 or Fuji X100 being able to take a decent shot because they are restricted by manufacturers to use a fixed focal lens. Poor saps.
I have a DP2 and it is as good as my M8 with 28mm Elmarit third version at iso 100 and 200. Anything above 400 is for black and white as color is completely lost. While the DP2 is an amazing camera that replaced my $4k M8 with a manual lens, I would never pay $1k for the Merill version. If iso 400 and 800 were good I would have given it a second thought. In the last two months Adorama had tons of DP1 and DP2 demos or E+ for less than $300. $1000 is a stretch even for a great camera like Sigma DP
Essai: I have not seen a single photo made with a Sigma camera than can match the IQ of a D800 or a 5DIII.
Please someone, posts a few "unique to Foveon" pictures in the Sigma forum so we all know that you are not blind.
Essai. Why so much hatred? Did your mommy drop you in your head when you were a baby? You're free to make love with your Nikon whenever you feel the urge. Good luck
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