Mirrorless Crusader: Nothing from CANIKON on this list, because they make garbage products! Oly won last year and is going to win again!
@bluevellet: Oly predictions are a joke: they have been wrong far too often with their predictions to believe them; Oly lied to us about its financial situation for a decade! Sony is doing a way better than Oly in the market but their camera division is losing money too. Only Leica is making money in the mirrorless market.
@Rooru S: Sony and Samsung are just throwing noodles on the wall to see if it's stick like smartphone makers before the iPhone.
...and Oly will lose money again!
Prognathous: I have to wonder why Samsung insists on building mirrorless cameras and a whole range of lenses when these products have proved to be such a commercial failure outside Korea. It would have been much better if they joined another system/mount, such as M43 or E-mount (Sony announced a while back that it's willing to share the specs with other companies, to get similar momentum and synergy that the Olympus/Panasonic duo is enjoying).
"...to get similar momentum and synergy that the Olympus/Panasonic duo is enjoying"
Like losing money? Why would Samsung join an ecosystem (M43) who is a commercial failure outside Japan? You probably know : the only company making money with a mirrorless system is Leica.
Biowizard: There is one set of amazing Nikkor lenses that the Df can't accommodate ... and I would KILL for a digital Nikon body that could ... and that's the Nikonos series of waterproof lenses.
C'mon Nikon, make me a DIGITAL NIKONOS. And with today's technology, it should be possible to design it so that it does NOT need to be opened up just to download images (WiFi?) or charge the battery (induction?).
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The new Nikonos is the Nikon AW 1 and it's an amazing camera for outdoor photography and sport photography...
Deano255: Good luck hoping for a firmware update that would add video. Nikon only provides firmware updates that address fairly minor issues, unlike Fuji that seems to go out of their way to provide substantial updates that give users greater functionality. I also read where Nikon is halting production of the Df for at least two months to ramp up production of another body due to be announced early '14. That indicates the Df has hit the market with a dull thud. You don't do that if you have a hot camera, and I doubt that they would devote resources for a FW update for a camera that isn't selling and was never designed for video in the first place.
Nikon will not add video simply because the battery will not last. To get a small full frame DSLR, Nikon need to choose a small battery; a firmware cannot change that!
Bamboojled: Some of the comments in the review are interesting, especially the focusing comments in low light, as I find the focusing on the Df to be as quick and as accurate as my D800.
I wonder if this is going to be scrutinized as much in the A7/r review as it was on the Df review.
I agree with you Scott. Just go read what Thom Hogan wrote about the AF of Nikon Df : "It's night, my big office is lit mostly by my monitor, there are deep shadows everywhere and I point the Df at something black over in one of those shadows that has no contrast and…the camera just focuses (I'm at ISO 1600, f/1.8 and 1/15 if you must know). Pretty much like I expect from my D800, actually. Yes, if I try I can find things in the office where the camera struggles to find focus, but frankly, I'm surprised at the things that it can focus on.". I think DPreview had a bad camera or they just did another bad review.
No Nikon AW1 either!
Rascati: Upon initial reading of this review I was under the impression that the reviewer did not like this camera. In two instances (Aperture control and O-Ring Protector), the reviewer did not take the time to read the manual to understand how the camera worked. While the operation of this camera may not be to the reviewers liking, knocking it down because he didn't read the manual does not seem fair. Additionally, the photos that were used in the review were nowhere near the quality of the photos in the gallery. The use of some of the better gallery photos for the review would have given a better example of what this camera can do. To be fair, Jeff did indicate the conditions in which he took the review photos (Less than ideal conditions). Overall, it just seems like the reviewer highlighted the negative aspects of the camera vs. the highlights. If I had a trip planned to Hawaii with a new camera, I think I'd take a few minutes to read the manual first.(I don't own this camera) Best Regards
Richard, Nikon just put the aperture control in the same place than their Dslr; they just replace the wheel with buttons for a good reason you probably already know (hints: sealing, underwater...). This just was one of the worst camera review I read from DPreview, period.
iudex: I think it is pointless to blame Jeff for breaking the camera or indicationg he omitted proper maintenance. Imagine a typical user of this camera: do you expect an average Joe to disassemble the camera, take the O-ring out, grease it with silicone every time, put everything back and after hour of preparation to go snorkeling? I believe he hust takes the camera asi is and goes underwater. Is it too much to expect the camera to survive one or two dives without going broke? I don´t believe this is what a 800 USD camera should behave.I understand that after some time the O-ring needs some maintenance, but in this case seemingly this was not the weak spot where the water leaked in. So no, thank you Nikon, I wait for a second generation, hoping the camera will be able to handle something more than a single dive before dying.
Nikon already display things to check the first time you open the AW1; if you remove the battery and put it again inside the camera, Nikon will display another message to check the seal of your camera! The only thing missing in the box, is a card with these letters: RTFM...
sugardaddy: I couldn't find anything mentioned in the original article. Was the supplied silicone grease applied to the O-ring at all, either first time attaching the lens or before the dip?
I know a lot of people originally wanted a dial of some kind but the zoom buttons act as a dial, which is pretty intuitive to me (I own the AW1). Buttons are a LOT easier to waterproof than moving knobs.
But the instruction manual said (p. 62-63) :
«Check the condition of the O-ring as described below whenever the camera has been used under water ... 5 Grease the O-ring.Place a bead of silicon grease in a plas- tic bag and use your fingers to spread the grease throughout the bag (q), then insert the O-ring and massage the bag to coat the ring (w).»
You need to keep the O-ring greased or it will leak. Nikon supply a tube of silicon grease for that with the AW1.
I have the Nikon AW1 and the O-Ring protector is INCLUDED with the camera. Look on the body cap! It's one of the first thing you get in the user manual.
iBuzz: Another poor review by DPR about a great entry level camera from Nikon.Message to Nikon : remove the mirror box from the D3200 and PDAF, keep the poor lens kit and the slow CDAF, add some Instagram filters, double the price and name it NEX-7. Maybe DPreview will give you a good score! ;-)
@Fraxinus excelsior: Sorry, I have already hold the NEX-7 in my hands.
Another poor review by DPR about a great entry level camera from Nikon.Message to Nikon : remove the mirror box from the D3200 and PDAF, keep the poor lens kit and the slow CDAF, add some Instagram filters, double the price and name it NEX-7. Maybe DPreview will give you a good score! ;-)
Valentinian: This is high-level compromise: on one hand Canon must keep all the existing lenses from becoming obsolete; on the other hand it is already known that mirorless is better than mirror reflex. Canon solution is much better than Pentax. The "hybrid" solution, combining Phase and Contrast AF is the future.However, when the Hybrid AF will be implemented also in the mirrorless cameras this "compromise" solution will have a though competion
Where are the small lens for the NEX system?
Louis_Dobson: Well, I have no dog in the fight - I got rid of the D3 for an OM-D.
But I'm baffled by the review. Look at page 23 - feeble sensor DR (as picked up by DxOMark). So this camera is a one trick pony - low noise at high ISO. Who wants to carry around a brick to get that? Wedding shooters. And a very high proportion of wedding shooters want their shots out and paid for with minimal PP, which means JPG. The camera's other weakness? The JPG engine.
So it's not really terribly good, is it? It's only good at one thing, and in the end it isn't very good at THAT either.
Nonetheless it will sell well, because people are foolishly obsessed with using "what the pros use". If they bought their cars the same way they'd have delivery vans and taxis.
Me, I'd like a D800, but the OM-D is too good to justify having both. This, I'd not touch thanks, unless I decided I wanted to shoot weddings and couldn't afford a D4.
Mmmm!!! I never saw pro racing driver using vans and taxi at NASCAR or F1...
Plastek: D3200 killer :)Better high ISOs, tiltable LCD, much bigger viewfinder with 100% coverage, AF motor, better continuous shooting mode, immersely better video (one that's usable by people who don't have entire rig set up for filming with manual focus or strugglig with contrast detection which doesn't work more often than does) including stereo sound (! lol nikon Mono mode), stabilization for all lenses including Primes, lighter, smaller, 100$ cheaper! (for 100$ you can get 50mm prime in addition to kit lens which is something must-have for beginners IMO).
Nikon gets nicer accessories and +-5 EV exposure compensation which is good feature in did, but... on the other hand you get crapload of fun-features in Alpha: panoramas (including 3D), build-in teleconverter, and god-knows-what-else (cause I don't care about them).
IMO: Now there's no reason to get Nikon besides being proud of Nikon sticker at the front of camera.
Where did you find better high ISOs in the specifications?And for many people, an EVF viewfinder is not really an advantage.
gl2k: The WiFi adapter alone is a very cool selling argument. AFAIK no other vendor makes it so easy to get the pics where the average consumer wants them. No high class prints, no post processing ... just fun on my Android or iPad device.
Very clever Nikon.
Maybe you don't understand the real value of this new WIFI adapter: this Wi-Fi setup give you a Wireless Live View on your phone screen and add many possibilities to share your pictures on social network!
Pixel Judge: Glad I paid a little more for the 16MP Oly OM-D w/ kit lens, which is about half the size and weight of this $699 Nikon.
Glad I didn't paid twice the price of Nikon D3200 for low megapixel Oly OM-D w/kit lens with slow AF for cats and dogs running and not so good RAW files.
I think Nikon have another winner!
duartix: The lenses are almost as big as m43, the cameras follow suit, the prices are surreal. Where do they think they are going with this system?I mean these cameras have an amazing sensor readout performance but anything else just doesn't make any sense...
The price is not surreal; if you want similar autofocus speed you will need to spend 5000$ for a D3s. And for the sensor size, the picture quality is really good (as good or better than m43 in my opinion).