The GX8 looks like a great camera design mostly. Too bad they ruined it by eliminating the built-in flash and using an utterly useless 2.5mm mic input. The fancy tilting EVF adds unnecessarily to the cost. A built-in flash would be more useful. I do love the fully-articulated LCD. Its about time other camera makers got rid of the stupid tilt-only LCD designs. I am anxious to see the new Lumix GH5 which, I assume, will also use the new 20MP sensor.
Nice add-on but Canon made a mistake not building even a small a grip into the design of the body. Especially for an advanced enthusiast-level 1" sensor compact camera such as this. BTW Sony is guilty of the same grip-less issue on their RX100 series cameras with which this competes. I know some will say having no grip makes the camera truly pocket-able but, for me, a grip is essential.
Wait a minute! DP Review hasn't posted the full D4 review yet after two years! Still waiting! Sorry couldn't resist. ☺ lol
These are release candidates and NOT final versions! Personally I will wait until the final versions are released. It most likely will only be a few weeks until this happens.
Really amazing and touching portraits. Truly inspiring!
GPW: NIKON, ENOUGH with the BULL S#$T entry level cameras, and release a D300/s replacement. If you can release a niche camera like the DF, you surely can release a much wanted camera like a pro DX (D400).
Ditto, what he said!!!
"Part of the problem with trying to explain why the RX10 costs so much (and we're not sure why it cost quite so much)..."
What are you talking about? This camera is expensive because it has an excellent, fast, equivalent 24-200mm f/2.8 Zeiss lens. The lens alone is almost worth the full price. Magnesium alloy top and front casings on the body also! I just wish the sensor was Mf3 but then the camera and lens would both be much larger.
Does Panasonic avoid the 30-minute time limit for video on the NTSC version by producing separate North America(NTSC) and European(PAL) versions of this camera? If so, why aren't Canon, Nikon and the other camera makers doing this for their new DSLR's? Making separate NTSC and PAL video versions that is...
The fast new lens and 12 fps rate are nice but why no articulating LCD on the G16? No good for me without it. What a huge disappointment again from Canon!
djwuk: Surely a revised 17-55mm f2.8 VR would be a more likely portent of a D400(which surely by even Nikon knows it needs to produce) not this. They serious stuff they need to be offering (revised 135mm f2 for one) not rubbish like this.
kymarto: I am loath to give more money to Adobe at this point, but I am thinking to upgrade to CS6 from CS5. I don't need the minor new features, but at least it will be somewhat supported for a time. But can I even upgrade at this point? I do not see upgrades anymore in the Adobe store? Does anyone know?
Sorry for the incorrect information on my above post regarding CS6 upgrades earlier today. If you have a CS5 or CS5.5 version you CAN still upgrade to CS6 for a limited time. I had been given incorrect information. Here is the link: http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/cs6._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_creativesuite6.html
Hi Kymarto, Your only choice to upgrade to CS6 at this point, if you have CS5 or earlier, is to upgrade into Creative Cloud which is $20 month for a single app (there's a 12 month $10 per month signup promo for a short time which goes up to $20 per month after the first year). There is no, repeat NO, upgrade to purchase CS6 outright for CS5 or earlier users!! I called Adobe earlier in the week to double-check. If you still want to purchase CS6 outright your only option is to pay the FULL retail price (about $600) via download or box product. I know this sucks but that is Adobe's policy right now.
A new article titled "Unhappy Customers Want to Parachute From Adobe’s Creative Cloud" was just posted on Wired.com about an hour ago which references the 5,000+ signatures on the change.org petition to keep packaged software.
Here's the link: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/05/adobe-creative-cloud-petition/
Rick Knepper: On Adobe forum, asked about ongoing ACR updates.
created by MadManChan2000 in Adobe Camera Raw - View the full discussion --------------------------------------------------------------------------------ACR 7.4 is the last 7.x version. However, ACR 8 will soon be available for both CC and CS6 users. (This is a departure from the past, in that the new ACR 8 will be available for an older Ps version.) New camera support and lens profiles will be included with this ACR 8 update, so if you currently have CS6 and all you're looking for are the latest camera support, camera profiles, and lens profiles, you will be all set.
Until they pull the plug..
Adrian Joseph Roy: I don't mind paying for good software. I would say that Adobe Photoshop is the most powerful yet reasonably priced software ever made. I would also guess that most professionals (journalists, photographers, editors, etc.) who already pay for Photoshop will at least be less affected by the changes.
It's the casual users that buy/upgrade Photoshop once every few years and use it several times a week for personal, hobby, and super-small-business work who are going to suffer. Indeed, it's almost a punishment to those of us who have actually paid for what is considered to be one of the most pirated pieces of software in history.
Pirating sucks. I'll never use a hacked up copy of Photoshop. But I know I won't be able to afford it either. So, after all the fun and enjoyment they have given me over the years, all I can say is: *&^% you Adobe. May your greed be your ruin.
Well said and I totally agree!!! I'm a legally licensed PS CS5 user and now Adobe tells me to move to CC or go away.
twadger: Has anyone read the terms and conditions of CC. Onerous isn't the word.
Examples:"Adobe may modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Services or Materials, or any portion thereof, with or without notice. You agree that Adobe shall not be liable to you or anyone else if we do so."
"You agree that any claim or dispute you may have against Adobe must be resolved by a court located in Santa Clara County, California, United States of America"
"You agree that Adobe may display advertisements adjacent to Your Content, and you agree that you are not entitled to any compensation."
"You agree to receive updates (and permit Adobe to deliver these to you with or without your knowledge) as part of your use of the Services."
"Adobe may require you to create a unique URL, such as your_name_here.adobe.com. Adobe may permit another User to use the unique URL previously selected by you."
Welcome to the future.....
Unbelievable arrogance from Adobe!! Thanks for the enlightenment on the T&C for CC.
Rick DeBari: I keep reading posts from people who say they have PS CS6 so they are all set for several years. That may be, but only until Adobe stops updating the Camera Raw definitions for CS6. You may then be forced to use JPEG or TIFF files on your future new digital cameras whose native RAW files are not supported by Camera Raw in CS6. Yes, you could possibly use the individual camera makers (or some other) raw conversion software then open the converted files in CS6. But that is a two-step process and very time consuming. And what options are there for PS users, such as myself, who still have even older versions like CS5 or earlier? There is NO upgrade path to CS6 now for thousands of users other than subscribing to Creative Cloud forever. We are hung out to dry!
I may give Capture One a try thanks.
I keep reading posts from people who say they have PS CS6 so they are all set for several years. That may be, but only until Adobe stops updating the Camera Raw definitions for CS6. You may then be forced to use JPEG or TIFF files on your future new digital cameras whose native RAW files are not supported by Camera Raw in CS6. Yes, you could possibly use the individual camera makers (or some other) raw conversion software then open the converted files in CS6. But that is a two-step process and very time consuming. And what options are there for PS users, such as myself, who still have even older versions like CS5 or earlier? There is NO upgrade path to CS6 now for thousands of users other than subscribing to Creative Cloud forever. We are hung out to dry!
Adrian Van: Would it hurt them to release a new version every 2 or 3 years with whatever upgrades are now in at full price. Could help. Some of us usually only want to upgrade around 3 years anyway. Please offer that option, plus cloud for the photo/designer/ad/marketing people. who cloud is intended for anyway, not us hobbiests or semi-pros. Just put out a full version every 3 years for the rest of us photographers and we will be plenty happy!Anybody agree?
Quoting Winston Hendrickson, VP of Creative Solutions, Adobe Systems: "We expected a higher degree of this type of reaction from the hobbyist photographic community because currently there's not a lot of photography-specific value in our subscription products."