dash2k8: Of course full-frame is the end-point we should all aspire to, otherwise we're not much for aspirations, are we? It's like saying we should only aspire for a cheap sedan because it has a lower maintenance cost than a luxury vehicle. Such a defeatist mentality is selling ourselves short. Had NASA thought this way, we would never have gotten on the moon. The higher we aim, the higher we will go.
Anyone who only ever aspires to an APS-C body is not going to go far in photo (which is fine, since for some ppl, photography is just for fun). However, it's one thing to not be able to afford an FF system, it's another to be complacent and say "this is good ENOUGH." When that word appears, you know corners are cut and goals reduced. We should all aspire to FF bodies and beyond.
To clarify, I have nothing against ppl who shoot for fun. But I do have a problem with the words "good enough."
dash2k8 - completely agree with you.
How much does it shew you up not to be shooting with a medium format camera? The real pinnacle of aspiration.
friedduck: I kept expecting affordable full-frame when I sold my last APS-C camera and all my glass. I was sure it was around the corner, and pledged to jump back in when it arrived (thinking along the same lines as the author.)
i'm still waiting.
Aside from buying an RX-100 I haven't spent a dollar on photography in 5 years. There's a huge untapped market here. It looks like buying used is going to be my solution.
You're seriously saying that for 5 years you have been waiting on the perfect FF camera?
Wow! Really Wow!
obsolescence: I started with Olympus Four Thirds, which is now basically obsolete and the lenses are not worth much. Obsolescence (that's my moniker) is the lifeblood of the tech industry, including photography. It's also very likely the future of the human species on this degraded planet, so we had better enjoy what we have while we still can. That means not spending all our discretionary money on photo gear just to have the latest and greatest.
PerL -> Yup - but so what?
I get to use legacy lenses from many many manufacturers.
It really only affects me if I want to use lenses for an ultra wide FOV and even there I can use a Metabones adapter to give me back much of the multiplier effect, as well as making the lens ultra ultra fast.
PerL - I use 40 year old lenses with my m4/3 kit. Work a treat! I have some old Russian stuff from the 1950's and top class Oly glass from the 1980's. So I'm not sure your point is valid.
As for 4/3 lenses not being worht much - they have recently shot back up in price again since the EM1 was released which allows you to use them natively.
Mike99999: This article makes very little sense. The upgrade path is a real marketing strategy from the two largest camera manufacturers: Canon and Nikon. And that strategy is a proven success.
The reality is that 99% of the image 'look' is produced by the LENS. If money were no object, you choose the lens that gives you the most pleasing image, and then you attach a camera with a compatible sensor size.
However, most people have a limited budget and compromise accordingly. A crop body can be one of those compromises.
Missing the point - a FF camera is ALSO one of those compormises.
Medium Format would give many advnatages over FF - but most people have a limited budget and have to compromise on FF.
Craig from Nevada: It had a good run. Olympus needs to ditch the retro look and build something that looks like a modern camera.
I really like the retro look! One of the things that gives it a distinctive brand presence.
Time for me to skip a generation (maybe two) - my OM-D is still a far far better camera than I am a photographer.
Very capable piece of kit indeed.
The MIT OCW courses are just awesome! Lots of great content there - I'm super happy to see them branch out into Photography.
samfan: One thing that bothers me when it comes to FOV/FL equivalence regarding m43 and compact cameras is the sensor ratio. 4:3 vs 3:2
Sure, diagonal FOV is equivalent to whatever is calculated but when I'm shooting wide-angle, I don't care about diagonal, I care about the horizontal FOV. And suddenly that 24mm equivalent is more like 26mm.
In other words, meh.
Unfortunately Olympus dropped the ball here by masking some of their lenses with 4:3 ratio so they're probably never gonna make 3:2 sensors. And those lenses are restrictive on those (few) Panasonic cameras with selectable image ratio.
This is one of 2 reasons why I got a Nikon 1 instead of m43 or Q when I wanted a small MILC. That 10mm is 27mm eq. as I know it from a DSLR, not some 30.5mm or whatever.
Also, let's not forget rounding. Lenses aren't actually 18.5, 24, 60mm... It may be more like 18.34, 24.7, 62.3mm. I never noticed it IRL, just noting.
I shoot portraits. I really don't want the super long thin got to be cropped 3:2 ratio.
Shrug - you cant please all of the people all of the time.
Mssimo: I have a D800e and sigma 120-300 f2.8 sport. Something I started to notice is that the bigger your gear gets, the less pictures you take.
Really? Reading it I thought he was a guy who shoots roller derby exclusively (and rather well I think).
dpreview is a site targeted at exactly that audience - amateurs who may want to stretch their horizons or pursue a specific interest.
I think this a super article about what you can do with enthusiast level cameras and some application.
RichRMA: Very few of the shots were of people moving, close to the camera. m4/3 is not at the DSLR level yet when it comes to action.
You need to look at the photos before you comment RichRMA.
How many of us on here are professionals thought PerL? Are you?
HussH: The heated discussion in the comments section show that Massimo's work is a resounding success, no matter what you think of the images.
This is both perceptive and very true!
forpetessake: "Massimo Cristaldi documents cost of migration" -- no he doesn't. His are some random images, technically poor, bearing no thought on the subject. Had he actually contemplated the cost of illegal immigration he would take images showing how it destroys the cities, regions, and the whole countries overrun by illegals.
Wow - bitter much?
Kill the political diatribe please - it just makes you look dumb.
Frank Petronio: More Leftist propaganda... Block and deport the illegals before they ruin things further.
Vacuous display of armchair chest thumping showing a total lack of insight or empathy.
How very small of you.
G3User: Looks like a bunch of underexposed images to me. What is DPreview doing these days with guest post? If these are on here then mine should be also.
Content and narrative totally trump technique.
I dont care how much photographic knowledge he has - he was able to make me think how terrifying sailing in on a boat with a hole in the front and dead people in the cargo would be like.
What have you done like that?
Do you have superbly compelling subject matter? No - didn't think so.
Jeff Seltzer: Just as predictable as the sun rising - a bunch of amateur photographers criticizing the work of others with the same, tired chorus of, "these are just snapshots" and " anyone can create these." Well, then why don't YOU create them and enter a contest? Why don't YOU create a cohesive story-telling body of work and submit it to galleries? Why don't YOU do something other than take shots of your cats, sunsets, kids, butterflies, and backyard flowers? Yes, it's easy to sit back and negatively comment on other's work. I guess it's much more difficult to try and understand why very credible judges chose these as winners. Good grief.
Jeff - really really well said.
Some of the posts here are at the school yard level of criticism.
W5JCK: This looks like amateur hour to me. It looks like a third rate camera builder held a fifth rate photo contest and handed out "Thanks for Showing Up" awards to all who participated. Photographers are not like Millennial Brats, make them turn in quality work or reject it. Don't give awards out for crap. This is what happens when a high tech firm dabbles in building cameras and then tries to understand what makes good photography. Quite frankly I see much better work on Facebook from those who are not and do not claim to be photographers.
Wow!! What on earth are you so bitter about?
munro harrap: On the BBC news website now, is the claim by Leitz asking if their ad for it is the most boring film ever.
Personally Sigma's little compacts could have been as good had they any battery life and weathersealing (you can see into the innards through the joint that runs around the middle of the edge of the cameras).
Secondly, as Sigma proves (cost £340 now) you can make an advanced APS-C camera with a great lens for not a lot. I can design a body like this easily , in fact better. Get a photographer to design a camera, for Pete's sake! And get Apple to get a photographer who accepts the need for more than just the sRGB colour space on a laptop or monitor screen.
These bourgeouis products lack useability. A diamond can look very pretty, but that kind is no good for anything....
So it would seem that the Sigma lenses are a whole lot better than the Leica one.
Whichever way you spin this one it's a major embarrassment.