NowHearThis: !@#$%^&*!! half my lenses have fingerprint smudges...says everyone who ends up owning/using this thing.
Don't get so angry. You can still count on 8 perfectly clean lenses!
Thank God it is a mirrorless, not a DSLR! Can you imagine 16 mirrors going up and down at the same time?
Sony Semiconductor Solutions could become the new Intel of XXI century. What is at stake is much more than the market for photographic sensors. Image sensors are critical to the intelligent machines that will, God forbid, take over the world. The potential for machine vision is infinite.
CaMeRa QuEsT: DPReview are DR junkies and so am I! Viva la alta DR! Viva la ISO invariance! Viva la Sony! Viva la Nikon for using Sony sensors! Viva la Samsung for trying hard to keep up with Sony! No viva la Canon for not giving us human eye like DR on their sensors and saying that they give wide enough DR and later retracting and admitting that their sensors currently can't compete in both noise and DR!
Viva la Revolución!
Sony is clearly the winner. The old argument that Sony is an electronics company that does not know how to make cameras must be revised.
obsolescence: I would like to suggest another product category: RAW Conversion / Processing software. I think it's such an important component in the workflow for high quality imaging.
... but any lossy RAW conversion should be eliminated from the competition, right?
J A C S: The extreme pushing from low ISO creates a strong magenta cast due to different non-linearity of the color channels (true for all sensors I know about). That is "noise" as well.
You are judging the Sony sensor from the DPREVIEW converted images. You should take the original RAW file and make yourself the RAW conversion. Then perhaps you understand better what I mean. I am convinced that the magenta cast has nothing to do with any nonlinearity of any color channel. The color cast appears to have been caused by the specific RAW conversion used by DPREVIEW. As I said before, the magenta cast did not show up when I used the ACR as a CS6 plug-in to do the RAW conversion.
I downloaded the RAW image DSC00261.awr and converted it with the ACR plug-in of Photoshop CS6. I pushed +5EV (maximum push allowed by the ACR plug-in) in the conversion, and an additional +1EV on the converted image. Surprisingly, I didn't see any magenta cast!
dakos: I really don't understand why you wrote that vibration from the shutter will be more prominent at longer telephoto lengths? The vibrations are not from the hand movement or such. They are the same for all lenses!!
"I really don't understand why you wrote that vibration from the shutter will be more prominent at longer telephoto lengths? The vibrations are not from the hand movement or such. They are the same for all lenses!!"
The sensor does not detect vibrations directly. What the sensor shows in the final photograph is the movement (shake) of the image relative to the sensor. In normal use, the main cause of image motion is the change in the direction of lens axis. It is precisely here that the focal length enters in the equation. For example, for a 500mm lens, a variation of one degree in the direction of the lens axis produces an image displacement ten times larger than the corresponding for a 50mm lens.
Banh Mi: what's different between Spot & Center Metering?
On Sony A7 , II
1. What I tested is both spot and center metering, are meter the light in center of the screen. You can focus, and then hold the shutter then move the camera to get the right composition.
2. With spot metering, if you move the Single Focus Point, it still meter in center.
3. If you use Eye AF, it still meter in center.
So, what the point and different on Center & Spot on Sony A7? I feel like the spot meter should follow the single focus point or Eye AF / Face Detect.
Sony, I need a firmware to fix this. Stop working on the raw, I don't need it.
"what's different between Spot & Center Metering?"
What Sony calls "center metering" is the old "center-weighted meter":
"Center:Measures the average brightness of the entire screen, while emphasizing the central area of the screen(Center-weighted metering)."
In contrast, the Spot meter in Sony's words:
"Spot:Measures only the central area (Spot metering). This function is useful when the subject is backlit or whenthere is strong contrast between the subject and the background."
Frank C.: sold all my gear and didn't buy this, just sold all my gear, my iphone is sufficient for my photographic needs, the camera companies and their overpriced hype can stick it anywhere they want
Shhhh... let me tell you a secret. The sensors in iPhones are made by Sony!
kewlguy: Should have been called a Tamtax or Penron lens.
orSuper Tamkumar Zoom 24-70MM F/2.8 Di VC USD ?
Miki Nemeth: 261 comments in so short time, brutal. Definitely Sony A7 cameras possibly deservedly are in the flux of attention these days. The A7Rii is absolutely the peak of the camera industry in the "general purpose cameras" category. Overheating shouldn't be a problem for a hobby-photo/videographer since she records only short 4K clips. Not a problem for professionals either, since they anyway prefer external 4K recorders (quite affordable these days in this price range where A7Rii is positioned) on their rigs. My Sony A5100 terribly overheats, too, but an inexpensive Ninja2 was a perfect and very economical solution, and the side effect of being able to record directly on high-capacity very fast USB3 disks was brilliant. I hope Sony is releasing a sub-$1000 APS-C 4K camera, soon.
I bet the competition is also overheated now. But by anger. That Sony... GRRR!
lightmatters: /sarcasm onPentax doesn't know mirrorless is the future. See what Sony is doing?/sarcasm off
DSLR is mirrorless with a mirror.
Frank_BR: The DSLR market is on decline, but you can understand that Nikon and Canon want to explore the DSLR concept until the very end. Nikon and Canon are the hegemonic forces in the DSLR market, and they act as the captain who does not want to leave the sinking ship. In contrast, Pentax has no tradition in full-frame digital cameras. So it is hard to see the wisdom of Pentax introducing a full-frame DSLR camera in 2016. It will be as timely as the launch by an audio company of a turntable for vinyl records. It would be far more sensible if Pentax launched a mirrorless FF camera.
"I see hundreds of them every year and I haven't seen a single one with a mirrorless!"
The reason may be that the mirrorless camera manufacturers (Sony, Panasonic and Olympus) have not yet launched appropriate lenses for wildlife photography. However, this situation began to change. Panasonic and Olympus, for example, has announced the upcoming release of fast telephoto lenses for wildlife photography.
Boxbrownie: It is a shame it has all the controls of a point and shoot........
Yes, they know they are not flogging a dead horse.
marshwader: Is this the review of the previews or the preview of the review?
Whichever: Anyone wanting to move to this camera from Canon should be aware of all the metabones firmware woes and have a good look at the relevant Sony forum.
Consider it as a compressed lossy review prone to artifacts if you push it too much. :-)
Sorry for the pickiness, but in page 2 the headphones connector is described as "input" when in fact it is "output".
Thanks for the early heads up on the uncompressed ARW progress. Do you know whether or not the new uncompressed ARW format will require RAW converter updates (Lightroom, ACR, C1, etc ?)
"But now we have to wake up and realize that we are getting, in most cases, a 0.1% benefit in exchange for a 100% file size and multiple shot buffer penalty."
Well said. It is the famous Law of Diminishing Returns working in practice.
cantor: It is good that Sony finally listened but I find it deeply troubling that it took them so long to respond to an issue that has been discussed adnauseum for over a year. The A7rii should have come out with lossless compression. They cannot do it efficiently now since it probably needs to be done in hardware. A good first step but they are slow to listen to their customers. Another issue that people have been complaining about for years is the very poor state of their user interface. When will they fix that? Another few years?
You are correct , but there are several A7 models with EFCS and, as you know, Sony has promised a firmware update soon to allow uncompressed RAW in recent models of the A7 series.