prossi: It appears samsung took the NX200 swap some of the guts of the NX1 and forgot the buffer, again. Built quality is not stellar. For 800 bucks? Nah.But the lack of buffer is the biggest problem and it seems to be a recurring brain fart at samsung R&D.
I am not sure why you are complaining about the buffer when its a consumer grade camera. Esp when it can do 9fps with lossy raw. My Sony A7 does only 5fps with lossy raw and I don't seem to see anyone complaining about it.
dynaxx: sorry Barney but the blogger below is right - if it was the "shoot" was paid for by Samsung then it has to be stated up front very explicitly. I know many people that would have given up on Samsung with that many firmware bugs
Agreed, just like all the other reviews of the Canon, Olympus, Nikon.. etc etc
Mike FL: Samsung seems getting cheaper...
Obviously its not an NX1, but apparently more people like it than not.How about a more complete view. http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Wireless-Compact-Included/dp/B00SYKXMKS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427549327&sr=1-1&keywords=nx500
Puljak: It looks as if this BSI sensor is still a bit behind the latest one from Sony. The one with the man holding a torch was shot at ISO 125. I looked at both files and the processed one indeed has huge amounts of detail pulled out, but a lot of noise as well. It's not bad looking noise, but it's there.
I would not use the word kill, as I do have the A7.I guess we see differently, as I do see the NX1 sensor better than the A6000, and the difference is more than the difference between the A7 and NX1. I will know more when I get the NX500
You'll need to compare same lighting condition. I wasn't too impressed with my Sony A7 noise too, I was expecting a bit better from a FF. You can compare noise from DPR image test, the NX1 sensor looks quite a bit better than the A6000.
The Sony A6000 uses compressed (lossy) raw. Did DPR tested the lossy raw in the NX500 for continuous burst? It should improve the number of fps a bit.
NaQoYqAtSi: I suspect this could be a real contender for micro 4/3 camera of the year 2015. Certainly worthy of a DPR gold award. So many pros so few cons - best in body stabilisation according to many early adopters. Sure some micro 4/3 cameras improve on the video. However I don't think 4K video is such a deal breaker at this point in time. This is certainly a significant upgrade to the omd-em5 in so many ways eg wifi, rear articulating screen, imaging engine, 40mega pixel shots to mention just a few. How many other cameras this year can boast so many improvements? Maybe there is a game changer around the corner...
I would also name the Samsung NX1 for the number of improvements. And most importantly, it has a new sensor. The EM5ii is obviously a very good camera, but I just wonder how many would opt for a new and improve sensor instead of the hi res function.
Peiasdf: This must be the "extremely compressed timeframe, early in the morning on the grounds of a hotel" test you guys are talking in the Samsung S 300mm f/2.8 ED OIS preview. Glad to see DP staff know how to utilize business trip. Haha.
For NX500, how come Samsung cannot fit everything on the NX1 into this like A6000? Unless the NX1 battery is too big and NX500 processor a lot slower, why not 15fps as well?
I think it's hard to resist, quite a few went into the water.
magneto shot: FF and we'll talk. Not because apsc quality is lacking, but because there is nothing negligible about crop factor in focal lengths. Mirrorless is crowded now but FF mirrorless is pretty much just sony
I think the current top APSC sensor is already better than a quite a few of the past FF sensors (other then narrow DOF). So I don't think IQ is a reason not to use APSC.
The high iso images look fairly good, but DXO measured previous EM5 actual iso =3024 for iso6400, that is less than half of rated iso. I wonder if DPR find the same result with the newer model.
mugupo: Wait till Sony A7000 which just around the corner, it will likely put this camera to shame. with EVF and better video function.
If Sony wants to do internal 4K, they would have done it in the A7S first. Sony is clearly focusing on FF mirrorless right now where they have the monopoly.Even if A7000 comes out, I doubt if it out spec the NX1 in many areas, I just don't think Sony has the resource to out spec the electronic giant right now.
Tonio Loewald: The ISO 2000 shots look awful. For comparison I looked for another recently reviewed camera's sample shots and tried the OM-D EM-5II — which looks better at ISO6400 than the Samsung does at 2000 (and with a smaller sensor).
It's impressive that Samsung is building out its own camera platform from top-to-bottom (sensors, bodies, lenses) — something only Canon and Sony really match — but at least for now they seem to continue to be lagging Sony in sensor tech. (The OM-D is using a Sony sensor AFAIK.)
Well I do own the EPL5 and I know which one is better. BTW, EPL5 over states the ISO like Fuji.I was looking at the EM1, and I check the EPL5 and was surprise it has a better ISO score (889 vs 757) than the newer and higher grade EM1. How is that possible? I don't believe that EPL5 over stating the ISO will affect the DXO iso score.I saw a review that the NX1 DR is similar to other APSC at low ISO but drop in DR corresponding to high iso is much better.
I seriously doubt a m43 sensor can compete with a BSI apsc sensor.You need to compare same camera at the same scene with the same light. Olympus has used the same sensor for many years. I have the EPL5 (same sensor as EM5ii) and it is not on the same level as my Samsung NX300 (or you can check DXO for that). But the Olympus jpg engine is better at high iso. And the NX500 has even better high iso and 28mp, if you resize to 16mp, the improvement in high iso will be very large.
J A C S: You did not challenge the bokeh enough. Only a few such shots, focused too close.
Boken is a very important part of composition (as least for me), and to me is the main reason for buying a large aperture lens.
Mike FL: Canon's EOS-M3 is "Gun shy" to come to the USA market while Samsung NX1 (and possibly this NX500) is "Gun shy" to come to the two of Asian's largest market, namely Japan and China.
Meanwhile, Leica is very happy the growth in the USA and Japan especially in China.
I think at that price, it is probably a used camera putted in a new box. Did you tried looking in the Samsung phone section? I am seeing more Chinese tourist using Samsung cameras.
princecody: I should have entered. My butterfly photo would have won. What do you think? https://www.flickr.com/photos/princecody/14751875029/
Just a nice sharp photo, need to have some composition or special angle of view to standout
Some of them are really nice, some I don't get.
steveTQP: As for "advantages of mirrorless systems", are we forgetting a big one, IMHO...The lack of AF Adjustment (or AF Fine-Tune, as some call it)! In other words, since the mirrorless systems focus right off the sensor itself (no reflex mirrorbox like in a DSLR), assuming the system and lens are not faulty, the Focus is always spot-on....There can be no "back-focus" or "front-focus" issues, again, assuming the system and lens are not faulty. That, to my 57-year-old eyes, is of critical importance, if "Sharpness" is a criterion of one's photography. Thank you.
Unfortunately, even for mirrorless, its the camera that picks the focus point (even for spot focus) which may or maybe not be what you want, so front/back focus still exist, but unless DSLR, there will be at least one part of the image be in focus. Nevertheless, the in focus rate is probably higher than DLSR.
I looked at the full size photo of the Japanese man in outdoor and I see a greenish outline to the right side of the face down to the neck and suit. Is that CA but green colored?
Ops, I don't really go to Amazon.cn to check as its sales is much lower than Taobao (around 1/6th of Taobao). But it seems I was wrong, even in the US, the Samsung NX300 is doing pretty well, I see 190 reviews vs Sony A6000 246 reviews. And NX1 is available in both sites.I have the NX Mini, which my wife is happily snapping away over a thousand photos in a recent trip to Japan. Maybe I can convert her into a photographer yet.