iloc: Why do you shoot a prime lens against a zoom lens? Doesn't seem to be a fair competition if you prefer/favor the nikon like this. Why didn't you take the Samsung NX Lens 45 mm 1.8 2D/3D?
If the NX 16-50s is really better than all of the Samsung primes, then this zoom might possibly be one of the best 3x zoom ever. Hmmm....
joyclick: NX1 could have beaten 'em all @ $500 less in its pricing with the best lens in the kit.
Like me, get the NX500, its more than $500 less.
Magic Man: It's ok for the Hyundai crowd...
And the Sony crowd, and the Fuji, Olympus crowd. I have all four.I just got the NX500, it certainly is very OK indeed.
naththo: Sony sensor is now nailed in the coffin! Can't believed it! Samsung trump over Sony by miles!
I recently got a Sony A7 to play with FF, but I only use it for legacy lens, don't really care for Sony AF lens. I plan to get the NX500 soon. Samsung is my main system, I also have Fuji XE1 and Olympus EPL5.
Why so concern about sales ranking. Just buy a camera that fits your needs, else everyone will just buy a Canon.
Yeah, I wasn't too impress with my A7 either, since it was a FF. I don't think the noise is due to the size, as the NX500 is even smaller. Anyways, I will do a comparison when I get my hands on NX500.
Jylppy: I find it interesting that Samsung is targeting declining camera market. They have superior silicon / sensor expertise in-house and they are one of the leading semiconductor fabs. They have far larger scale in silicon vs. Sony so Samsung could be a major player in the sensor market going forward. NX1 definitely seems an interesting product and a great start.
The system, however is still in its infancy and I would like Samsung to show a lens roadmap similar to Fuji that shows what lenses area coming. The choice of DSLR / MLC camera is a choice between systems first and the choice of particular camera body model is only secondary.
And of course I hope this will increase pressure on Canon and maybe even offer them a new sensor source. Buying from Samsung is of course a tricky issue since they would be supporting a competitor in practice.
Yeah, imagine the 28mp BSI sensor inside the Canon 7D mk2.
gmke: A large BSI sensor is nothing to sneeze at. The open question has been hanging around for some time: Why hasn't anyone tried the BSI approach on APS-C? The question to Samsung is, How long will it take to get the rest of the situation ironed out? Rushing a cool idea to market, without polish, won't turn the right heads. You gotta have a complete story before anyone takes you seriously.
How polish do you need, or you just want near perfection. Based on DPR, the camera certainly seems very usable already.
Very nice review.Now I am very eager to see the review of the NX500 that uses the same sensor as NX1.
enenzo: Welcome to Samsung which is now entering the group of camera manufacturers (Panasonic, Fuji and Sony) who are innovative and reach for the stars.
I must admit I have been skeptical about Samsung as a serious camera manufacturer - but this is class, and yet, yet, another shock and another competitor for Canon and Nikon.
Well done Samsung!
I agree about the base iso IQ of the NX10, I actually prefer it over my Nex 5.
Tom Goodman: I could not help notice the camera body sells for $1300 and the "kit" lens for $1500. Yikes.
Actually, the zoom aperture starts at f2
quezra: As expected. I don't know why some people thought IBIS would be a magic bullet for the camera. At the end of the day it is just an incremental upgrade on the A7 (and surprisingly quick out the gate compared to most FF product cycles).
Bring on the real upgrade, with IBIS, A6000 AF, EFCS/silent shutter, and 36MP - in one body.
I think IBIS is quite a significant upgrade.
JimW-203: It strikes me that the belief that the "sensor is all" flies in the face of logic. If correct, that would lead to the conclusion that in pre-digital era cameras all one would have to do to get outstanding pictures would be to pick the right film.
Actually, I agree to that. If sensor is all, then the new Olympus EM5ii should get a fairly low mark due to its dated sensor. But than, the main reason people buy FF is because of image quality. So ...
BartyLobethal: I think they undermine the performance of their own sensors by not offering at least a lossless compression option.
Agree X 2. I was a bit underwhelm with shadow pull on my A7. I thought it would be quite a bit better than my other apsc.
jhinkey: "All the size/weight advantages of not having a mirror mechanism are negated the second you try to squeeze an IBIS system inside the body."
Hardly. It's still smaller and lighter than the D750.
Who is the editor of these articles?
Yeah, the weight is one of the reason why I got a A7 instead of A7ii. So DPR point is valid.
prossi: It appears samsung took the NX200 swap some of the guts of the NX1 and forgot the buffer, again. Built quality is not stellar. For 800 bucks? Nah.But the lack of buffer is the biggest problem and it seems to be a recurring brain fart at samsung R&D.
I am not sure why you are complaining about the buffer when its a consumer grade camera. Esp when it can do 9fps with lossy raw. My Sony A7 does only 5fps with lossy raw and I don't seem to see anyone complaining about it.
dynaxx: sorry Barney but the blogger below is right - if it was the "shoot" was paid for by Samsung then it has to be stated up front very explicitly. I know many people that would have given up on Samsung with that many firmware bugs
Agreed, just like all the other reviews of the Canon, Olympus, Nikon.. etc etc
Mike FL: Samsung seems getting cheaper...
Obviously its not an NX1, but apparently more people like it than not.How about a more complete view. http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Wireless-Compact-Included/dp/B00SYKXMKS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427549327&sr=1-1&keywords=nx500
Puljak: It looks as if this BSI sensor is still a bit behind the latest one from Sony. The one with the man holding a torch was shot at ISO 125. I looked at both files and the processed one indeed has huge amounts of detail pulled out, but a lot of noise as well. It's not bad looking noise, but it's there.
I would not use the word kill, as I do have the A7.I guess we see differently, as I do see the NX1 sensor better than the A6000, and the difference is more than the difference between the A7 and NX1. I will know more when I get the NX500
You'll need to compare same lighting condition. I wasn't too impressed with my Sony A7 noise too, I was expecting a bit better from a FF. You can compare noise from DPR image test, the NX1 sensor looks quite a bit better than the A6000.