I think the offical 4K video sample looks pretty good. Some passage actually looks almost 3D on my screen.
Notomb: Lost opportunity, FF right choice. Insane Samsung market. 1500 dollars for a APS-C camera?? Who buys? Pentax k3 user? Canon-Nikon user? A7 user?
I think 4K h.265 video will be a strong selling point. Panasonic is going to have a hard time selling the GH4 at $1700. The NX1 will be more convenient than the Sony A7S as NX1 can directly record 4K onto card.
EduPortas: Interesting, but a bit expensive. Samsung does not have the brand-sparkle to compete with big name camera makers. Also, if you are changing systems this suddenly becomes a costly proposition. I'm hopping for stellar reviews on the video side, THEN I'll consider buying this camera. I'm expecting great things at that price point.
Not just teleological, go check the latest 7Dmk2 vs (cheapo) Samsung NX3000 at iso3200, iso6400 in the imagining resource comparator. I think a lot of Canon user will be pretty sad. The 7Dmk2 uses a 180nm fab process while the Samsung NX1 uses 65nm, I think that is more than 2 generations ahead in tech advance. As for lens, Samsung is getting fairly complete if you ignore the exotic ones.
Karroly: FF Sony Alpha 7 body is smaller and lighter than this APS-C NX1 body...
It's a pro camera,like the Canon 7D, its big for a reason. Wait for the NX400, it will be a smaller RF style with the same BSI sensor.
Samuel Dilworth: For about a decade Samsung has talked about dethroning the big camera companies. That chat, which waxed and waned with chairman Lee Kun-hee’s mood, has never really amounted to much, but perhaps one day it will. This camera certainly makes that day seem more possible than it did yesterday.
Whether it’s a good camera is another question. I’m betting it’s full of odd little limitations and design flaws that the cognoscenti will moan about (did you ever try the TL500/EX1?). It also has that faux SLR look that I despise in non-SLRs but which seems to fly off the shelves (and in fairness, it’s hard to totally screw up the ergonomics if you’re copying an SLR shape that the big Japanese makers honed into usefulness over several decades).
But Samsung may lose interest when it realises it can’t compete with Sony without full-frame. Samsung isn’t the sentimental type, so if that happens all APS-C lenses would probably be terminated and quite possibly erased from photographic records. Poof!
I think Samsung at 10 times the market cap of Sony, Samsung certainly has quite a bit of staying power. I think the availability of the NX 50-150 f2.8 and 300mm f2.8 lens showed quite a bit of commitment IMO.
jonathanj: "Samsung is certainly an ambitious company, and its efforts have paid off with a global mirrorless market share that only falls behind Sony. "
I'd be very interested to see the source for this.... I mean, I'm a happy samsung user with 3 cameras and half a dozen lenses purchased - I think the products are great, but I don't know anyone else who uses them (other than on this site), and I've seen maybe 2 dozen samsung mirrorless cameras over the last 3 years. I would never have thought that samsung is outselling olympus, panasonic, and fuji? Genuinely astonished if this is the case!
I saw the Samsung NX300 rank #3 in compact camera in sales few days ago in Amazon. Now it drop to #9. But I guess , somebody somewhere is using them. Samsung NX camera are also doing much better in my part of the world.http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/3109924011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_1_4_last#1
Mike FL: For the same price @499, you can get Sony NEX-6 with16-50mm Power Zoom. Plus:- Build in EVF,- Build in flash, and - Better brand name.
BTW: I'm not sure if NX3000 could have batter IQ than Sony NEX-6 even sub $500 Fuji XA1 and M1 have better IQ than NEX-6 (especially Fuji has better color rendition).
Good value, but that is a discontinued camera price. Wait a bit and the NX3000 price will drop fast too. I had the Nex 18-55 kit lens, the Samsung kit lens has a better IQ IMO. And Samsung certainly has better pancake lens than Sony if one want further upgrade.I have a Fuji X-E1, very nice color, but sometimes color is over the top and can look a bit plasitic.
brownie314: I like what Samsung is doing with their cameras. However - I have seen lots of samples from Samsung cameras and the default processing, especially of skin tones, always seems to bluish and not attractive. I know different cameras have their "look", but to my eyes, Samsung does not have a good look SOOC.
I have used 4 camera system (Sony Nex, Fuji X, Olympus, Samsung NX), and Samsung is definitely not the one with the worst skin tone. if I have to pick one, Sony will be the at the last place regarding skin tone. The DPR test samples with portraits are done in very bad lighting (ie. in shadows, light reflecting of blue chairs). I think below link is a better example of skin tone from NX3000http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3715542
But what if the monkey is a natural and has better photography skill than Mr. Slater. If Mr. Slater is incapable of taking such photos, then the legal rights is even more disputable.... :-)
Raist3d: Wow Samsung well done. I wish they had a telephoto out of the gate.
If u use the NX adapter for the NX line of lens. There is a NX tele zoom 50-200m f4-5.6, times that by 2.7 crop you get 135-540mm reach. But the downside is the combo is fairly big
Charlie Jin: Can't say about other types of pictures, but for portraits, wow, I can't believe that you can produce such quality from a 1" sensor camera. The skins look gorgeous. Maybe it's the prime lens ?
I believe its both the lens and the camera. I have had Sony Nex, Fuji X-E1, Olympus and the Samsung NX camera. I can say Samsung NX produce excellent and fairly accurate color as good as any brand. You should check the apsc sensor in the NX line if its color you want. I like it better than my Fuji.
jenbenn: What you forgot to mention is that the 5D has vastly superior dynamic range in all shots. The highlights in the sony raws are all blown out while the canon retains considerably more detail.
BTW I own a 5d III and a Sony A7 (non-r). The canon consistantly delivers less noise and better dynamic range at all isos above 400. The exception being at iso 100 and iso200 where the sony has less shadow noise if you need to lift the shadows dramatically.
To complete this: Any test site (hint: DXO) rating the canon sensor far below the sony sensor, should start using their cameras to take photos instead of performing absurd measurebating tests which do not translate into real life.
The more I looked at the image compare from DPR and IR, the more I believe that DXO numbers are absolutely useless.
tkbslc: Obviously 409600 looks like junk, but up to 51200 and even 102400 look pretty usable. Probably 2 stops better than any other FF competitor.
Strange, I only see around half to one stop advantage, and you lose big time in the resolution. I think that is a trade off one must consider.
Eleson: One thing that become apparent is that the jpeg engine in A7s i really, really good. Take a look at ISO 102400 and compare to Df (or anything).
I can clearly see why some say "you need to shoot RAW".But then again, show a RAW picture that beats the out-of-camera jpeg from a7s @ redicilously high ISO's....
My opinion is if you shot FF, you want quality, so might as well spend a bit more time to get it, otherwise, why not just use apsc or m43.
steelhead3: Does Samsung have to copy Sony even down to the numbering system
If Sony had copy Samsung lens quality as well, I probably would not have switched from Nex to Samsung nx. BTW, the Samsung NX10 came out before the Nex 5.
Jogger: Interchangeable lenses for cameras with smaller than APSc sensors make no sense. You can get the upcoming Sony RX100m3 with 24-70/1.8-2.8 equiv. in a much smaller package.
From the RX100 samples, I don't really see better optics from Sony over the Samsung. I was fairly surprised by the IQ from the nx mini small sensor. I will pick one up for use with my D mount lens as soon as adapters came out.Judging from the IQ from the mini 9mm lens, I think it is as good if not better than the RX100 zoom. But that's a bit unfair since it a prime vs zoom lens.
darklamp: Tell me something it does that a Sony NEX with 18-55 doesn't for a tenth the price.
Ah, yes, it has a red dot.
And while that 18-55 may ( or may not be ) optically great, the reality is that correcting CA and distortion is the norm and accepted as quite reasonable.
Oddly no fast 50mm equivalent at launch and no 85mm equivalent at launch. Surely that's a minimum requirement for a serious camera ?
And they don't even include an M mount adapter for the price. That's cheeky. Who else will buy it apart from rabid M mount owners ? ( Oh, yeah, celebrities - I forgot ).
I can't take Leica seriously any more.
How long before we see the gold version ( or platinum ? ) and the snow leopard skin clad version with matching carry pouch ?
They don't make cameras any more, they make accessories for celebs.
Hmm, I had the Nex kit lens, it is part of the reason I use legacy lens and switch to another brand for AF. It's Leica, expect the price to be crazy.
CaseyComo: That's some aggressive noise reduction in low light.
Why not trying shooting raw, it came with a free Lightroom software!
SETI: Pictures looks a lil bit dull to me
I have a Sony Nex, Samsung nx300, and just got a Fuji X-E1. If you want very saturated color, Fuji is for you. But for me, I am trying to find ways to tone down the darn over saturated Fuji color which to me is a bit unnatural. Of the 3 cameras, I think Samsung has the most accurate color.
ProfHankD: Once again, Samsung has made a mutant Sony that in many ways is nicer. Basically, this is a Sony A3000++. Ok, the sensor probably isn't quite as good (although DxOMark shows Samsung isn't far behind the A3000), but Samsung actually makes pretty much everything in their cameras, and they're getting better at everything. They've got a long way to go to match an A7R, but I'll keep watching them....
Honestly, the only thing that's kept me from buying a Samsung camera is the slightly long flange distance and relatively poor availability of legacy lens adapters (e.g., no Lens Turbo) for NX. Then again, I own a Galaxy S3, so I guess I actually do own two Samsung cameras.... ;-)
All the legacy lens I used on the Nex I also use on the Samsung, except the C mount and M mount, but those lens are too expensive anyways. Here is a incomplete list of legacy mount you can use on NX: Canon - EF (and there is tons of adapter for EF), M39, M42, Minolta MD, Canon FD, Pentax PK, Nikon F, Olympus OM, Exakta, etc.I can even use the rare German Robot mount lens on my NX.