Google must be content to let Motorola hang itself or be a perennial loss... Either that or they had standing contracts with Verizon. These phones don't seem bring anything that would make them stand out vs a One, S4, or even an LG Nexus 4... You gotta think at SOME point they'd either want to leverage Moto's engineering to build a fully in-house Nexus or do something special in some way.
Sounds like pointless rumor mongering, I'm sure it isn't the first time they prototype different sizes, Jobs is probably rolling in his grave tho! (he definitely wasn't misquoted when he proclaimed the market wouldn't want phones so large right bettor the launch of the first 4.3" HTC EVO)
Frankly I'm not sure why they would make a larger iOS tablet when the market has been clamoring for smaller ones (hence the mini), if anything the larger displays are probably for some sorta hybrid device... You know they've at least gotta be experimenting with the concept on light of Surface etc.
I still believe Microsoft's mobile strategy with Windows 8 (and next gen Atom devices) will either be the biggest flop of the decade or they'll completely crush the high end tablet market and force down the prices of the larger mobile OS tablets (there's no reason they should still hover at $500+ when 7-8" devices can be half for half that).
The phone rumor is equally odd IMO, Apple has ALWAYS avoided having more SKUs than absolutely necessary... In fact, their current CEO has been pushing to streamline their inventory efficiency for years and it's one of the reasons why they're so successful.
If they were gonna come out with two different sized phones they'd build them in a similar fashion, and I don't see them altering aspect ratios and resolutions so soon after the 5... Even if the screen stretch wasn't enough to satisfy everyone (when have they ever strived for that anyway?).
I couldn't care less for Apple btw, but the whole article smacks of a parts supplier trying to make waves rather than any substantial report. Not sure why it belongs on Connect either other than the media obsession with Apple rumors around this time of year!
Wick Smith: AirStash has done this for years. One advantage of AirStash that may not be the case for EyeFi is that you can use the mobile app to view images from the card on a large screen without having to download them.
Another option is CamRanger which reads directly from the camera without having to remove the card from the camera. CamRanger also allows remote operation of the camera from a phone or tablet.
Who mentioned Eyefi? Airstash's solution looks very similar to Sandisk's, but it also costs twice as much for half the storage so even if it isn't entirely original SanDisk's obviously still providing some value here. CamRanger starts at $300 and it's aimed more at remote control...
Interesting exercise in minituarization, the flash drive version is only 3" x 1"... Pretty handy if you have the need for a mobile wireless drive, probably the smallest yet... Only USB 2.0 though.
I'll stick to my 32GB USB 3.0 Sandisk, it's probably 5x faster when transferring stuff from the PC when I'm in a hurry to get out (like when I'm dumping movies on it before a trip, at 100-200 MB/s), and it's easy enough to access on my phone/tablet via USB OTG. No battery to recharge either...
I'd definitely have one if these if I had an iPad though, or like, kids to entertain on a trip. Wonder what kinda streaming/wifi speeds it can attain.
Take my money already Google, please! I've been waiting for a Nexus 7 successor to upgrade from my OG Transformer, I really want a smaller tablet. I like the TF, but for my use a smaller and easier to hold (with one hand) model is much better suited. Just about the only time I might miss the TF is when I'm traveling without a laptop. I don't think I ever used the rear camera beyond day one, front one got plenty of use tho (once Skype figured out a way around Tegra 2's limitations anyway).
jeremiah_rubix: According to sonyalpharumors the first one will have same sensor and lens as rx100 mik ii.
Heh, your post wasn't up when I replied... That might make it a very interesting concept, they could release a number of different modules down the line (34mm prime, power zoom, etc.). Wonder how it's powered though, doesn't seem like there'd be much room in there for a sensor plus a decent battery, though I guess you don't need much battery life without a display...
I'm skeptical, it'd need to have a 1" sensor or better within that lens for it to replace other existing solutions one can carry in a second pocket opposite of a phone (i.e. an S110 or Sony's own RX100).
Wipe the lens occasionally, they can get quite stuffed with lint!
I used to juggle a phone and camera when on vacation or somewhere memorable I'd wanna share with friends... Often taking two pictures, one with each. Wifi connected cameras obviously solve that dilemma to a large extent (I gave in and got one myself)... There's a cheaper alternative if you have a camera you like and a recent Android phone .
Get a short 3' USB OTG cable and a small SD reader, maybe even a tiny micro USB reader that barely protrudes from the cable port (if you don't have an issue with using a micro card in an adapter on the camera)... It's fairly easy to slip the card out of camera, slip it into the reader, and then hook it up via OTG to the phone for uploading.
You'll probably end up posting better pictures too, not just cause they were taken with a camera, the process of waiting a few minutes to then review them on a larger phone display makes ya more selective by nature. Plus you can still Instagram the heck out of it if that's your thing.
No NFC and no OIS for the camera is somewhat disappointing... Lower res display too (though a year later I continue to be impressed by my own phone's 4.65" 720p display, EVO LTE). It's definitely a mid-range model capitalizing on the flagship's name rather than a small flagship model a lot of people would want, not even that much smaller at that. I thought they struck a better balance last year with the One X and One S, the latter retaining most of the larger model's specs while being substantially smaller. I think a lot of people out there would prefer smaller 4" phones, women in particular who tend to stuff them in tiny pockets.
jkoch2: The Luddite and miser in me say that mere SDHC class 4 is good enough for burst of 4mb stills or 28mbps AVCHD video. The quest for giant, uncompressed files is a tad futile in a world that views most images on 7" screens or larger ones with at most 1920x1080 resolution. Will the world PAY for product that involves huge files or advanced post-processing? Non credo.
A miracle, though, that Class 10 card memory now sells for under $1 / gigabyte. Will the cost of SSD memory for computers get that cheap too?
Actually, SSD drives are already well below $1/GB, even under $0.50/GB in some cases (or close to it). I bought my second 128GB Samsung 830 towards the end of last year for $70, it was one of the better drives at the time too (they were just being cleared out for the new 840 line, which isn't much on aimprovement unless you step up to the more expensive 840 Pro).
I actually paid more per GB for the 32GB SanDisk card I just got than for that SSD (a 45MB/s UHS-1, paid $33 IIRC). Outside of deals I think the cost per GB is actually pretty close, depending on capacity, speeds, etc. You can get 500GB drives for under $375, good ones too with a decent warranty etc. Cost per GB of micro SD has actually been dropping faster than for SD.
G Davidson: So this kind of card could be the fix for cameras with a fast shooting speed, but too small a cache memory? (I'm thinking of the D7100 here).
Hmm, guess it depends on the RAW file size and burst speed selected? (among other things...) A series of 20MB+ files at 6fps could still choke the slower non-Pro (just), any faster or larger (file) and you'd need the Pro card and it's 240MB/s. I guess as long as file size is under 40MB/s then that card should be able to handle an infinite 6fps burst, provided the controller in the camera can deal with it etc.
scrup: Good job Sigma. Competition is good for consumers. Now just reduce the price a little more to put some real pressure on Canikon.
That's fine, but you can't argue that the market would easily bear a higher price (and it'd still be reasonable, at $800 it's a strong value). For a lot of buyers the comparison to FF lenses or even the cost to manufacture is irrelevant (nevermind R&D), ultimately it's all about what it directly competes with (primes and 2.8 zooms) and what the market's willing to pay. Sigma probably developed and built it from the start to hit a <$1K price point anyway.
tkbslc: Now we know why it is so big.
He was probably alluding to the length, tho it can replace a couple of lenses so it's all relative.
Artistico: Impressive. Seems like Sigma has decided to make the best lenses around, and they are well on the way to reaching that goal with this one. If I'd been an APS-C shooter, this would have been really high up on my wish list.
Now, Sigma, what about a micro four thirds 12-35mm f1.8? If you can make this one, you should be able to pull that off.
That'd be some kinda feat IMO... But with Panasonic's 12-35/2.8 IS already coming in close to $1,000, it doesn't really leave Sigma much room to carve out their own market (a fast zoom on MFT is already kind of a niche within a niche). I guess if it was anywhere under $2,000 it'd still have some merit (cheaper than 3 equivalent primes), provided it isn't humongous. I'd be excited for any kind of new Sigma MFT tbh, given what they've released lately.
Hah, the price is already putting quite a bit of pressure on their 2.8 zooms and even some of the primes, what more do you want? When the preview first came out the guesses for the price were all over the place, if you look at the comments you'll see everything from <$1,000 to $2,000... I think few guessed it'd be as low as $800 tho (US). Even DPReview didn't seem to expect a sub-$1K price!
massimogori: Once upon a time one was an enfant prodige before the age of primary school. Now we have to wait for the college or the university!
(nice pictures, however)
cinemascope: I love Nokia, but cannot say the same about Microsoft. They can make the best OS in the world for all I care, I still won't give them my money as long as I can buy something else... And it's a pitty, as I'd be more than happy for Nokia to take my dough...Android might not be the best thing since sliced bread, but it's open source (or close enough), and I am a much happier person supporting that open ecosystem than anything else...I also value my privacy and while none of the big three have a great track record, I'd pick Google any day over Apple or MS...Anyway, I might not be your typical phone buyer, but it's not always a matter of technical prowess... Some people will still stand by principle, religion, fanboyism or whatever makes them happy... If someone gave me a WP device for free, I'd give it away to someone else the same day, or I'd sell it without opening the box if I needed the cash...
Meh, the open source factor is kind of a red herring unless you're a geek and you're gonna enjoy tinkering with the phone (nothing wrong with that, I'm one)... For the average user WP still offers far more choice and degrees of customization than iOS. I think it's actually quite clever of MS to be straddling this invisible line between Android's approach and iOS'. In the long run, I think WP will be Android's biggest competition.
Apple's shown it can survive easily enough while catering to a niche (% of Mac users vs PCs), iOS isn't there yet and it may never fall quite that far behind in user base but I could see them falling into parity with WP. MS's got a lot riding on WP and their overall mobile strategy, Surface didn't exactly convince me but it shows great promise and a lot of foresight for a company that ran itself into a terrible rut at one point.
Anyway, I value my time and money far too much to that kinda stance over a consumer product and limit myself artificially, there's far more important issues in this world. No offense...
I'm all in on Android right now but WP would easily be my second OS of choice and I may try it someday (this isn't really enough to tempt me, but it's close)... Not sure I get all the iOS vs WP vs Android hate, I mean, I see plenty of it elsewhere... I guess I just didn't expect DPR/Connect's audience to have such a large cross section of the worst of the smartphone world. :P
WP's still just missing a few things for me (USB OTG, a few apps, Chrome tab sync, etc.), and I'm not entirely sold on the tiles concept (properly managed widgets are still more flexible and useful, but I guess tiles are much easier for the non-geek to deal with and it beats iOS' grid)... That being said, I do admire some of it's elegance and I hope this phone's a smash for Nokia.
The $300 price point and AT&T exclusivity worries me a bit (one or the other would be fine, the two combined could quickly drive it into obscurity)... Hopefully MS/Nokia throw plenty of marketing muscle behind it, or the price drops quickly enough amongst third parties (seems to happen for anything not built by Samsung/Apple lately, which I have no problem with!).
Honestly, if you really enjoy smartphones, whether you're a geek/tinkerer or just a busy guy for whom they're an essential tool, then you should welcome this level of competition and gamesmanship between THREE big players. It's the best thing that can happen to any industry, it makes them ALL better. The second it slows down to a two horse race (or worse) and there isn't room for much else, then I'd worry.
Jonathan F/2: I think you guys at DPreview should spend more time taking compositionally more interesting photographs. I don't care that you use something like the 15mm f/8 body cap lens to shoot your E-P5 photos, just make your photos more pleasing to look at. These look like outtakes from someone accidentally pressing the shutter.
Who cares anyway? Composition isn't terribly important if their some purpose is for judging IQ... They're not supposed to entertain or delight you.
Anyone have any experience using mSD cards in an SD adapter on a regular camera? Would they still operate at their rated speed? I've noticed the market's starting to turn and the same capacity mSD card is now often cheaper (albeit usually slower) than SD, the speeds are getting close too.