Why not simply create a news section on the forums and create a thread for every news post there... Then just simply link each article to it's respective thread and direct comments there. It's more conducive to follow up and productive conversation than a simplified comment system IMO. (I can't take credit, some sites I really enjoy so this, like oldschool CPU/GPU review and news site HardOCP)
I think that kinda approach really cuts down on the flame bait drive-by kinda comments (not to mention the commercial spam, though it seems you guys handle that quite well) and encourages more discussion amongst regulars. Falling that, I think a downrank system that hides comments that are voted down would also help (even Amazon uses this for their review comments).
The NFC/Wifi implementation in recent Sony/Panasonic compacts and M43s is all I really need... Easy pairing (just tap), good remote capabilities, excellent photo browsing from the phone's bigger display (where it's easier to share with other apps anyway). What more do you want? Those Sony sensor/lens units are interesting but not very practical.
None of the hybrid or crossover designs really give me a reason to diverge from either carrying just my phone or my phone plus a solid but well connected camera (whether it's a DSLR, M43, w/e). Samsung's Android based cameras hold some promise but unless they open them up and release some API they're throwing much of the potential from Android away.
utomo99: Now instead of buying the Canon S120. I might consider to buy panasonic LF1. Especially when the price going down.
I wish Canon releasing better products.
To me it's a no brainer, either get the LF1 over the S120 or get the S110 if you wanna save yourself $100+... I went with the former, rather glad I didn't wait around for the S120 announcement. The S110 is still a solid buy for $350 or less tho.
peevee1: Fight - Canon G16 vs Panasonic LF1.
They're not really the same class of camera... S120 vs LF1 (no contest IMO, get the older S if you're pinching pennies tho) or LX7 vs G16 would be more appropriate.
Jogger: Just goes to show the engineering marvel that is the RX100/M2 if other manufacturers are still putting smaller sensors in larger bodies, without flipscreens or hotshoes.
The RX100Mk2 is larger than the original which itself was larger than any of the Canon S models... The difference isn't monumental but the RX100Mk2 is now thick enough so as not to fit into some of the pockets that the S line can fit into... I imagine it's got more to do with the swivel display and the hotshoe than the sensor size tho.
The RX100s also pack shorter lenses...
There's definitely room for improvement on the S110/120 form factor even if you ignore sensor size though. Panasonic's LF1 is just about the same size and it packs in an EVF plus a longer 200mm lens that still starts at f/2. Maybe Sony will get really gutsy and release a slimmed down RX90 or something at one point...
It sure doesn't look like any of the other manufacturers wanna compete with the RX100 tho.
Lallous: I am quite disappointed to see that the S120 still does not offer a Panorama mode. Panasonic, Sony and Nikon and many others offer Panorama mode, but for whatever reason, Canon still does not. Canon will have you do a cumbersome and time consuming software stitch to create a Panorama, instead of an automated camera built-in hardware Panorama stitch. This is a deal breaker for me.
Stitching is actually ridiculously simple on a PC if you use something like MS ICE, like, two click simple... But I agree, the average consumer isn't gonna bother and it's silly ether they haven't incorporated a much easier to use sweep mode like just about everyone else, I loved having it on my Sony travel zoom I'm enjoying it just as much on my Panasonic LF1 (>>> S120).
M Jesper: S120 controls unchanged? The buttons are huge ! That, or the camera is smaller, and/or the screen is bigger. The screen border that is, which makes sense for a touchscreen.
Just checked, the S110 is actually 99 x 59 x 27 mm (3.9 x 2.32 x 1.06″). Actual LCD image area still 3″.
Going by the specs, the display size is the same and the S110 already had a touchscreen so nothing should have changed on that end... They did make the S120 slightly larger, but it's a very slight increase...
The buttons do look bigger on it tho, I think it's a combination of a slightly larger circumference (look like there's barely no space between them) and the fact that they're now bulbous/raised, they used to be very flat and almost sunk like a millimeter into the body.
They should be easier to press, dunno that it'll make much of a difference since you'd usually be looking at those buttons when pressing them anyway... I guess it helps those with fat fingers.
springsnow: I have mixed feelings about these Canon. I like Canon cameras in general. Love my S100. I was hoping that the S120 would be priced more aggressively, although I guess Canon can still get away with charging $450 simply because Sony is charging $650 for the RX100.
I don't know, Panasonic's DMC-LF1 is the same size but it has a longer 200mm lens that starts at f/2, and it has a sweep pano mode, and an EVF, and better battery life, etc... LF1's $50 more if you go by MSRP, I thought it was slightly overpriced compared to a $350+ S110 and the RX100, so that would make the mildly refreshed S120 very overpriced.
Babya: Canon Japan page says the S120 has a peaking function in MF focus mode:http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fcweb.canon.jp%2Fcamera%2Fdcam%2Flineup%2Fpowershot%2Fs120%2Ffeature-mode.html
Interesting, who would really bother with MF often enough on an S120 as to make it relevant tho? It does have touchscreen tho so I imagine focus pulling with it can be pretty easy.
keeponkeepingon: I was one of the canon faithful (Y2K S100, SD780, S95, 300HS, S100 owner) but I think I'll be moving on now.
It may be silly for the purist here but I'm pretty upset that there is still no auto/sweep panorama mode. I've played with the competition and it's really really nice to be able to make a pano on the fly.
Gosh even my iphone can make a nice panoramic image and because of that I would often use my iphone even though I'm carrying my S100.
Like everyone else, I'm a bit disappointed in the lack any innovation here, especially in regards to the sensor. I can stomach that on a P&S for FB/email snaps but I can't stomach having to spend time in PP just to get a little bit wider.
Yeah I dunno why Canon seems to steadfastly refuse to copy that feature... Everyone else has, so it can't be a patent issue.
rallyfan: Page upon page of marketing babble to announce WiFi, a feature these cameras should have had for years. Did anyone here read all that?
WiFi always a welcome addition. Enough said. Really.
The most amusing part if the S110 already had Wifi, and they mention it's now easier to connect but not how... Other manufacturers have built in NFC to make that process easier, and have expanded Wifi capabilities to remote control, but neither seems to be the case here.
yabokkie: hope a new EF-M camera will have 1080p60 and fast burst rate soon.
a f/1.8 lens on 1/1.7" sensor at ISO80 is equivalent to about f/8 on 35mm format at ISO1600 so it's quite usable for a P&S,
not far from (about 1/5 stop difference) a m4/3" with kit lens but with extended range and much smaller.
I hope a new EF-M would implement something like the 70D sensor but it'll probably take a while given the pace Canon moves at...
dwl017: These models are dead on arrival. Are you kidding me the S120 price point = Fail M4/3 eat this trash for lunch in 2013 and beyond!
The S120 is overpriced for sure, the Panasonic LF1 improves on it in a number of ways (longer lens & batt life, EVF, pano mode, remote control, etc) and they're nearly the same price... Plus the S120 doesn't bring much over the S110 which has fallen to $350 many months ago.
However, I don't see how the S120's price or M43's pricing correlate in any way... There's no M43 camera that's anywhere near as compact as a Canon S, even with the smallest pancake lens available (unless you go for the body cap lens which is just silly as an all purpose).
The Canon S line and other high end compacts like it (LF1, P330, even the RX100) can simply go places where no ILC can go and they still take significantly better photos than any phone. It's a shame the market for them is kind of a niche because of their high(er) prices and the glut of inferior compacts.
If camera manufacturers had been pushing and advertising the kind of features that those high endccompacts bring (larger aperture/sensor, better controls, etc) instead of the travel zoom/MP race, they might be doing better in light of the smartphone's arrival.
Jogger: why dont they just make a universal head for cellphones with the standard tripod screw.. they could pack it in with the normal version
Yeah, the Micro 250 and the GripTight are brilliant, I bought them together as well but I'm using them for entirely different purposes... I use the 250 with my compact Panasonic LF1, it's tiny enough you can close it and leave it attached to the bottom of the camera body while barely noticing it.
The Griptight is just as solidly built as the Micro, I think they're both made of magnesium alloy... Seems far more sturdy than that stretch cord attachment on the MPod. I'm using my GT in the car attached to a screw mount, works better than most dedicated car mounts, easier to hide away too.
rallyfan: Mixing units (ounces and grams) shows lack of preparation.
Looks like a new way to scratch painted car surfaces. Why not just use a car key? Great scratches, less cost, traditional.
Pretty sure those leg tips are rubberized.
Tim Ashton: nice strong magnets wont corrupt cards???
Flash media storage is basically electrical, data is read depending on how a charge is stored in each cell... You'd need a pretty freakishly strong electromagnetic field to affect that.
MarshallG: I think the smartphone link is a great feature! Most people today take pictures with their smartphones, and then email or post their photos. It makes a lot of sense to offer a better camera that can leverage the smartphone's convenience and its Internet access.
This is a great way to revive slumping camera sales.
This isn't really a new feature tho, the S110 and many other compacts have had it for 1-2 years now... Sony and Panasonic's compacts even go beyond Canon's implementation and offer two key advantages: NFC for easier pairing and remote control of the camera thru the phone. Panasonic's app is better designed even if you're just interested in browsing/syncing photos to the phone for sharing. This is a really weak update for what amounts to a $100/30% premium over the S110.
Knowing Canon, I wasn't expecting the S110 refresh to amount to much... But the S120 is particularly disappointing in light of the S110's street price and even compared to the new Panasonic LF1.
Hugo808: I used to work at Jessops and I would often advise people not to buy digital cameras. And that was in 2001!
I can't imagine how unimpressed I would be with a camera that cost $750, took 4AA batteries that lasted an hour, had to be sent back to the manufacturer if power failed during downloading AND took absolutely awful pictures!
How did digital ever get going? I remember even top-of-the-range Canon EOS DSLR's having purple fringes round everything. Now I've got a bagfull of Nikons and can't remember what film looks like. Go figure....
Lower MP pictures also took up considerably less space than a 20MP+ RAW file tho. I've still got a whole bunch of >64MB CF cards.
Gesture: Nice article, Jeff.
Ricoh, Casio and Epson were digital camera pioneers and had many interesting designs and approaches in those days. Some of the first "modern" cameras for Casio and Epson were the Casio QV-3000 and the Epson PC850Z.
That Fuji vertical format had a sophisticated interface and the Kodak DC290 (successor to DC260 and last in the line) was an excellent camera with a compact TIFF mode, much like Canon's later compact RAW files.
Scripting the camera by the Kodak DC290-we are only starting to return to that area and the potential has only been slightly explored.
I had a DC290! My first digital camera, it's also the most expensive camera I've ever owned... I think it was some sort of gift (that i conned my farther into) during my senior year of high school. That thing also had better time lapse and long exposure modes than a lot of or P&S or mirrorless models do these days.
Honestly, the prospect of digital cameras was super appealing to a geek back then, I dunno why the rest of the world had any pause, waiting for film processing seemed so slow when I could download a song in nearly half an hour on my blazing fast 56k modem! :P