Mike Evangelist: I would never trust my cameras to a strap attachment that is basically string - no matter how well made that string might be. Those little loop-type fasteners are fine for a cheap point & shoot. But hanging a few pounds of expensive gear from them is foolish.
(the fact that they now have wear indicators on the loops demonstrates that they know it could be a problem.)
Frankly, I don't foresee the new kind wearing down at all despite the new indicator layers... It is much much tougher than the stuff they used in it's first two incarnations, much much tougher than what Optech or any other QR uses. It's actually a little stiff, super tightly woven, and it self heals to an extent under stress.
I broke several guide threads (fishing line etc) trying to use it to push the Peak Anchor it thru an eyeley into which it ultimately didn't fit, and it didn't fray even one millimeter, instead it knotted up and only got stronger at that section. I could see their old ones fraying, heck you could bunch it up and undo the braiding until it stretched out again, the new ones are super tough tho.
catleet2016: I can't believe all the negative comments regarding the anchor, I was a kickstarter backer with the original peak design clutch, with the original (not the updated) anchor, after seeing the warning label when i received the clutch, i would do a quick look on the anchor before throwing on the strap, and 2 years later, anchor shows very minimal sign of wear, but will most likely replace it with their updated reinforced anchor soon. Again 2 years of regular use to the beach, hikes, and road trips!
I believe they've actually gone thru three different iterations, I've got the dyneema ones and the newest vectran ones (I think that's what they're made of anyway)... The newest type is definitely the toughest, the braiding is ultra tight and didn't slip apart at all if you bunch it up, and the self healing way it knots itself up if you get really rough with it totally works... Plus it has those wear indicating layers. Only downside is it's nigh impossible to loop thru small eyelets.
I kept using the old kind on my small GM1 because of this, and simply added some split rings to my OM-D unto which I attached the Anchor Links... Could've used the existing triangle rings but they dug into my fingers on the right side.
Jestertheclown: Those "easy to use; undo in a flash", fasteners would make you a prime target on the London Underground.Your camera would be "undone and gone in a flash."You'd never see where it went nor ever see it again.
They're actually not that easy to unlock, the thief would definitely have to be familiar with the system to even have a hope at doing it unnoticed... And yanking the whole thing from your shoulder seems far easier, or cutting it which you can do to most straps (Peak's might be a little thicker than most).
Matsu: Have they resolved the connection point weaknesses? When the system first appeared, failure stories quickly followed. The slot where you insert the buttons had a nasty habit of coming apart.
I've never had an issue with mine (after over a year with them), I use them with two different cameras and two different straps (sling slider and wrist strap). They feel really secure and always lock on the first try. I do have two different versions of their Anchors, the new and improved cord is stiffer and harder (or impossible) to loop thru some eyelets, but I just added an extra split ring in between because the wear level indicator layers seemed worthwhile. I still haven't worn thru any of the old ones, tho I use pretty light M4/3 gear.
CanonKen: I disagree about the metal scratching the gear (and what I am assuming caused the reviewer to give this 3 vs. 4 stars). I have used this strap since not long after it was available, and it has not caused any issues, in or out of the bag. I have hiked with it, wrapped the strap around the camera, and otherwise 'used' it (not just casually or infrequently).
You state 'risk' and 'fear' of this happening, but not it actually happening. Of course it could happen, but it does not seem likely.
Now to your point, would a different material (either coated metal, or plastic) have been a better choice? Probably, but until I read this review, the thought or manifestation of damage never came up.
If anyone wonders why I have such a passionate defense, it is because this is the best strap I've used, and I'd hate to see people shy away from trying it themselves.
It's a valid concern IMO, the metal parts have no load bearing anyway so it was pointless to make them metal. Plastic (see Artisan & Artist) or a nice leather pull (see Custom SLR Slim Strap) would've worked just as well.
I bought both the Slide & Lite, gifted one and haven't really used the other... They're not terrible and I don't think the metal thing is a deal breaker, but there's better executed straps of this kind out there (cheaper too).
I'd say Peak's is easily the best built of it's kind, but it's arguably overbuilt in a way. I like the color choices tho, and could easily get over the metal... My bigger issue with it is the use of two sliders/locks rather than a single one.
SteB: I haven't gone Peak Design yet for my straps. However, I was thinking about changing all my cameras and binoculars etc, to Peak Design, simply because it's possible to use one or two straps to fit them all. I'm mainly interested in how well they perform, rather than hypothetical concerns like the strap adjustment buckles scratching equipment.
My idea of using it would be so I could detach the strap and store it separate. I do a lot of all day photography in Summer, and when you're out all day straps tend to get a bit damp with sweat, and storing them with your cameras and lenses isn't such a good idea. I find it's sweat and skin residue that tends to attract fungus on bags and straps. So it's probably not a good idea to store any strap being worn all day with your cameras and lenses, to protect them from fungus.
To me the logical place to store this type of quick detaching camera strap would be in the mesh outer pockets most camera bags have.
I'm not a huge fan of the Slide itself, for my purposes I prefer the very similar Custom SLR Slim Strap or something from Artisan & Artist... The former is thinner tho and the latter hard to find. Peak's Slide is easily available and probably the best choice for really big/heavy gear... I do absolutely love Peak's QR Anchor Link system and I use it often to swap between a wrist strap and my A&A strap. Their QRs feel much better made than any other I've seen.
mrmrbill: Custom SLR "Glide One" is an option that addresses the reviewer's "cons" whilst keeping the same great features.
And the Artisan & Artist Easy Slide series too, which predates either. Peak Slide is very far from being one of a kind. Luma Cinch is older too...
Those are all sliding adjust-on-the fly straps that can be worn cross body, over the neck, etc. Many of them even have better sliding mechanisms that don't throw the center padding out of place and/or don't require two separate sliders.
I like Peak's stuff, I use their Anchors with my A&A, the Slide line is neither unique nor the best value tho. It's the most over built of it's kind tho, so if you need something really rugged then it's got that going for it.
The Slim Strap does the exact same thing.
tkbslc: This feels like divine intervention. Just yesterday I saw a camera with the red quick release buttons and was trying to figure out what brand/system they were from. But I wasn't having any luck. Then I find this review the next morning!
I like that they have a wrist strap and hand strap with the same QR system and that the buttons left when going sans strap wouldn't get in the way.
They also sell those QR separately btw, I'm using them with an Artisan & Artist slider strap and with a Joby wrist strap. I bought both Slide straps and didn't care for some of the over designed parts or the clumsy dual slider system (I much prefer a single slider a la A&A or Custom SLR's Slim Strap)... Their wrist strap looked pretty bulky too.
Those Anchor Link QRs are fantastic tho! I've bought several different Optech QRs (similar to what everybody else uses, 3 prong clip) and they all look and feel much cheaper than the Peak Anchors, the little red discs are indeed more unobtrusive when not connected and the actual connection feels much more secure.
photogeek: 60 dollars for a camera strap. Truly, there's a sucker born every minute.
I can show you several Alex, truth is they all run $60 or more tho... Except for one which just came out! The Custom SLR Slim Strap. Their description of the sliding functionality is terrible, as are the photos, no color choices either, but in use it's superior to Peak's, and for only $30.
The strap isn't as wide tho, more of a competitor to the Slide Lite, and the QR clips are kinda cheap (more like Optech clips). It's still a much better value tho, and I agree that the Peak sliders are over designed and bound to scratch something.
My favorite are still the Artisan & Artist Easy Slider series, I use the ACAM-E25 in conjunction with a Peak Anchor Link QRs, pricey combo tho ($60-70 + $20). If I didn't switch to a wrist strap often (Peak's QR anchors are great for this IMO) or I hadn't bought that combo first, I'd choose the Custom SLR Slim Strap.
I've bought, had, and/or gifted all of them btw so I'm not speaking out of my...
G1Houston: Would be nice to see a whole body shot of the photographer carrying the camera to make it easier to see how one carries the camera with this, as compared to a more conventional next strap.
I agree, terrible photos... I normally wouldn't be so harsh but seriously, even the close ups aren't very useful. How about one with the sliders open? That's the main selling point here and the article kinda glosses over their usefulness. I've got like three different kinds of sliding straps and Peak's isn't even my favorite, but this review was kinda poor.
Actually, Custom SLR came out with a design that's directly equivalent to Peak's just last month, it's called the Slim Strap...
It's better in several ways too, no metal, the leather pad is a better shoulder cushion, and the slider mechanism is more akin to the pricey Artisan & Artist straps than Peak's... It can be slid along most of the strap so there's only one, Peak's dual sliders are more cumbersome and unless you adjust both you throw the padding off center.
The kicker is it's only $30, much cheaper, I highly recommend it. The only downside are the QR clips which look more like Optech 3-prong clips. Ultimately I prefer my (much pricier) Artisan & Artist ACAM-E25, because it's green and because I can use it in conjunction with Peak's Anchor Links.
If I didn't switch it around often for a wrist strap or hadn't bought it first tho, I'd totally be using the Slim Strap.
I've bought and regifted (or shoved in a drawer) both Peak straps btw (regular and Lite)... As the article mentions, those buckles are overbuilt. There'll be some who like that tho. The Slim Strap and A&A straps are both thinner too so those who like wide straps are better off with Peak's. The biggest convenience to these kinda straps, which the article kinda glosses over, is the easy adjustment part.
You can have it loose one sec and cinched close enough to your body for a run or a bike ride a sec later, or even for something as simple as kneeling down to play with a child. Go from cross body to shoulder quickly, etc.
nimrod1212: I can't find out if this thing uses USB 2.0 or USB 3.0. Makes a helluva difference to transfer times.
A) Lighting B) internal iOS NAND flash probably isn't fast enough for it to matter all that much... It might saturate USB 2.0 in a best case scenario where you're transferring video rather than smaller proto files, but it's still not gonna be a monumental difference.
Debankur Mukherjee: Photo No 5 - Wow its Made in Japan...........
Panasonic seems to split production by models kinda randomly, case in point, my cheap GF6 is made in Japan too whereas the more expensive G line is made in China... I don't even remember where my GM1 is made, but the same is true of lenses, sometimes the more expensive one is ironically made in China... At this point I don't think it really means anything on a broader scale.
Allan Ostling: Why no GPS? This is a valuable feature for traveling enthusiasts, many of whom use Lightroom (which has a Map module).
Sony, Panasonic, and Olympus all do the same thing AFAIK... Log with the phone app then sync location data later.
JL Auch: Will they finally introduce exposure compensation with auto iso in manual... please.
Pretty pleeeease? It only took them like, half a decade to even add auto ISO in manual (GH4 was the first? or GM5?)... Can you ask Oly to back port this from the PEN F to their older bodies while you're at it? I'd flip if they did.
mosc: I'm just of the opinion that there's no market beyond cell phones and fixed lens compacts (with really fast glass) for cameras of this size/price. I thought the GX8 was a more reasonable "enthusiast" product to pair with lenses but this kit-lens-focused GX85 seems doomed. The LX100 is under $600 and has a MUCH faster lens.
Strongly disagree, got an E-M5 II here and half a dozen native lenses, might very well have been a GX85 (actually paid less for the Oly than what the GX85 is worth, CAD/USD exchange helped). Was put off by the extra bulk/cost of the GX8 (not to mention lack of EFC and video IBIS).
The Squire: A like, a bit. But unless you need the meh viewfinder, I cant help but think a 4k enabled GM would be a better fit in the mid-range m4/3 line-up.
I suppose IBIS is the feature that makes this a GX rather than a GM... Nice if you like the Olly glass.
Oly glass or, y'know, any of Panasonic's great primes <30mm, they all lack OIS equally and there's just as much of a usage case for IBIS with wide angles if you shoot in low light a lot and/or shoot video. The system is better off with IBIS across the board, hopefully Panasonic starts porting it outside the GX line sooner rather than later.
Ross the Fidller: "Finally, the new Light Composition mode again uses the camera's 30 frames per second 8MP image capability, this time to create a composite image. The mode uses only the brightest value from a series of frames you select, so scenes such as fireworks displays can be created from multiple images."
That feature (or similar) which first came on the Olympus E-M10 (& thankfully came to other models by FW updates) was called "Live Composite" & now we see it on a Panasonic body. :-)
Oly's works with the full sensor/res tho, implementing it thru the 8MP/4K mode seems kinda backwards... Why start off with a set of noisier shots for a composite? It probably requires a similar level of stabilisation regardless.
AdamT: 16Mp .............. :(
If they`re going to use a new sensor (the 20Mp one in this case) , use it across the range like DSLR makers do instead of hanging on to old sensors . Kinda expected it in the G7 but not in this model ..
So a grown up GM5 then- nice option, probably a sweet spot but IMO needed that 20Mp sensor
Well, better is relative, IQ could stay the same but things like sensor readout speed could vastly improve... And the Sony sensors that have been used in M4/3 bodies recently do a lot better on long exposures than Panasonic's last gen sensors which featured a lot of hot pixels and required dark frame subtraction on shots that bodies with Sony sensors didn't, so there's that.