ryan2007: In the micro four thirds class, Panasonic has always been innovative and first to the market place with great products. They were the first with the 12-35 & 35-100 mm 2.8 zooms.
Good for micro four thirds and Panasonic. I knew from the start they were a better product than Olympus in this MFT's niche.
Well, their f2.8 tele goes usefully longer than Panasonic's and the 300mm isn't a road map bulletpoint but a sure thing, tho still unreleased. Panasonic does keep things tighter to the vest tho so who knows that they have under wraps.
The Squire: Like the 42.5.
Just need an LX100-alike body to attach it too plz!
Some GX7 reviews were bizarre, specially DPR's... I hear ya tho, I got turned off by some of them and I almost kind of regret it.
Cameralabs' comments about the EVF and the look of bokeh with IBIS scared me away and I jumped into M4/3 with a GF6... After a while I realized the GX7 would've really been ideal for me tho, I prefer the rangefinder style and certain things about Panasonic.
I've been tempted to pick one up as prices drop but at this stage I'd really want DFD for better C-AF and 4K (E-M5 MkII missed the mark on both counts), not a single GX8 rumor out there tho... Then again, Panasonic plays things close to the vest, no one saw the 42.5 coming either.
For now I might pick up a GM1 instead since it's even cheaper and wouldn't be wholly redundant when/if get a (hopefully) GX8.
JOrmsby: Does it say anywhere if these are metal-bodied, or are they the same cheap plastic like Oly has in their 45 and 25 1.8's?
Weight isn't always a sure fire indicator, the 20mm version II has a very thick metal body and yet it weighs less than the original plastic version... Panasonic describes both of these as having "metalic finishes" tho so more than likely that means thin metal plating around a plastic body as on their 12-32, 35-100, 14-42 II, etc.
jhinkey: It will all depend on how good this lens is compared to the Oly. If it's optically not as good, then for me OIS likely won't be worth it.The Pany has one aspheric, but no ED-like glass while the Oly has no aspherics and two ED glass elements. I can handle CA, but lack of sharpness off-center is not attractive to me.
Though I own the 42.5/1.2 already (fantastic lens), this f/1.8 version is attractive due to the small size (like the Oly), but still having OIS (which the Oly does not).
Perhaps this means the GX7 will be the only Pany camera ever to have IBIS - shame . . .
And they don't have any longer primes so it's hard to draw any conclusions beyond that... This might mean we could eventually see a competitor to Oly's 75mm tho, possibly cheaper and/or with OIS.
Yeah I'm wondering if it has any implications like that, tho it's not their first prime with IS... Even the macro had it even tho it seemed to be quite useless for actual macro work, you could actually say IS is standard for Panasonic primes in this focal length range.
brumd: Somehow, the Panasonic m4/3 lenses never look even half as sexy as the ones from Olympus. Yes, it's important! :)
Uhh, the 42.5 looks really really similar to the Oly 45mm. Panasonic's 20mm ver II is one of the sharpest looking pancakes, tho it looks like nothing else, Oly just seems to be somewhat more consistent in their designs (tho they still have like three or four different styles, for the cheap zooms, pro lenses, and metal or plastic primes)...
Panasonic's been chasing trends with recent kit zoom designs (smoother, metal plating) and is generally pretty scattershot. Not that it makes much of a difference, I've got half a dozen Oly/Panasonic lenses and the only ones that have any sort of matching aesthetic are the meant-for-GM zooms, doesn't really bother me l.
He's probably alluding to the number of physical control points or dials, of all those only the GX and E-M come close tho I think the LX100 still has one more dial than all. A single click of the GX rear dial will easily replicate a third tho, same for Oly...
No aperture ring on lens on anything outside the 15mm tho, or aspect selection switch for that matter. ILC body controls are more flexible, but the LX100 does give you the ability to recognize settings at a glance even with the camera off... Fuji gets a lot of play out of that.
W4YNE 1: $398 listed at B&H
Will be interesting to see how it compares against the Olympus 45mm f1.8? I like the fact that this lens has OIS. shame it doesn't have the manual aperture ring like the Pana-Leica 42.5.
Yeah, I dunno whether OIS alone is enough of a differentiator, those that want to shoot video at that focal length will surely eat it up but I dunno if I'll bother swapping my Oly 45... An aperture ring or focus scale might've sweetened the deal. At least it uses the same 37mm filters.
ShutterNot: Questions are: How good will the 42.5 F1.7 be ?Will it be better than the Olympus 45 F1.8It's 1/3 the price of the 42.5 F1.2 Leica which I can't afford.
Nobody can answer that, won't be out for another couple months... If it isn't at least as good as the Oly tho it'll be a flop outside of the video crowd tho. Panasonic has a pretty good track record with their primes tho.
JeanPierre Thibaudeau: I wonder what the price will be for the 42.5mm F1.7 lens...Any clue, anyone?
Check B&H, already up for pre order at around $400... So similar to the Oly 45mm (tho that one's often on sale at $350 and cab be found as low as $250 as a grey import etc). Not sure whether the OIS will be worth switching over from my 45...
Adrian Van: Always wondered what happened with Sony's TV sales. They used to be perceived as the number one premium product in TV. Samsung now doing extremely well in TV and phone, plus tablette.Sony TVs are still selling I see and still a great product, but Samsung has great sales record in recent times for most of its products, and choice of many.Is it aggressive sales on LED TVs by Samsung plus its high quality tech at good prices? Who has the best tech or sales in TV now - Samsung or Sony? Either one is still a great product, perhaps comes down to best bang for the buck or the value, which makes a difference to consumer. Overall I still like Sonys products.
Sony seems to have taken the lead in the highest quality "mirrorless" category, in A7x, it would appear, plus their great sensors.
Pioneer had the best TV tech (in plasmas), then Panasonic, then Samsung, then they all stopped making plasmas... :p LG's were never great. The future is apparently OLED, where LG has been making headway (at stratospheric prices), tho we've been hearing that for years... Looks more credible now tho. Sony's current LCD line is amongst the best, still an LCD tho and smaller companies like Vizio as well as larger ones like Samsung have eroded their sales.
Rooru S: A year ago, Mobile Phones were considered one of three Core/focus for Sony...now they're thinking about selling it. Wondering what will come next.
Mobile has been struggling for a while, it's been years since they cracked the US market and buying it all back from Ericsson didn't seem to help.
photofisher: Looking at this big glass, I'm glad I went m43. Not the absolute best in IQ but perfect size. The cost and size are probably worth it for pros but not for me.
It's apples and oranges really, I'm happy with M4/3 (just bought my 7th and possibly last lens in fact) but if I was swimming in cash I'd also have an A7 and some of the smaller primes... That 28mm f2 looks pretty nice.
Take one Oly Air...Add drone...?Profit. :p
Pretty much everything about it was leaked pre-launch... I'm mildly interested, my two "must haves" for a new small M4/3 body would've been improved C-AF and 4K video, and neither is present here... BUT if they improved video IQ enough then the prospect of that plus IBIS (for my primes) would be appealing, as is the multi shot high res mode.
I do prefer rangefinder style bodies and flip screens over fully articulated ones tho... Hopefully there's a GX8 around the corner that marks off more of my wishlist. I'm glad to see Oly added an EFC shutter to combat shutter shock tho, along with an electronic shutter option... I'm assuming it can be used at speeds other than 1/16000 no?
That's one of the cooler features on newer Panasonic bodies, probably third on my wishlist for a new body.
Rolfens: Oh wow Olympus finally innovating. About time we see something tempting and modern from them.Not sure about that 40mp thing. It sure is an interesting innovation and illustrates how precise the IS is. But when you think of it, it's like HDR but only worse (hey why not combine HDR while we're at it?). Would be interesting to see what weird artifacts show up when you shoot a moving subject with that.Plus most lenses barely resolve up to the 16mp sensor.You want proper 40mp? Go rent a medium format Phase One back with a Carl Zeiss lens. It will probably cost as much as buying the OM-D E-M5-II.That's one thing more: is this seriously the name of the camera? Sounds like it's getting a bit long.Overall good news, I have to say.
You wouldn't use it for moving subjects obviously, and a lens wouldn't have to resolve any more than it already does for each individual capture...
Mssimo: Can this camera shoot Raw in high res mode and I would guess a totally new algorithm would be needed. Do we expect adobe to support it?
Read the article? It states it'll shoot 64M RAWs.
Interesting concept, I'm sure there'll be some novel uses for it (like astro etc, see other comments), obviously not a mass market product tho... Dunno why another commenter stated it might be "for the teens", if a teenager hasn't bought an ILC he's certainly not gonna buy a lens and a mini camera module just because it features remote control.
I still maintain that the QX concept would've been a whole lot more interesting if Sony had released smaller models with prime lenses rather than zooms.
The 1" sensor model was LESS pocketable than an RX100, so cost was it's only upside... Package the same thing with a thin 30-40mm equivalent pancake tho (like the M4/3 17/2.8 or 20/1.7), a focal length smartphone users are already used to, and simply pitch it as a pocketable upgrade to your phone's camera and I'm sure there'd be a market.
It'd sort of be more like a modular attachment rather than this elephant trunk hanging from your phone. Maybe Oly will get there eventually if this proves popular...
I wonder what they paid those guys and what the half dozen photogs that do the swimsuit issue earn... ;p
Peiasdf: If all you plan to do is use the kit lens RX100 and G7X are far better choices. In fact, my G7X with the "slow" option under auto-ISO amazes me with its IQ and IS.
Yeah, the super-compacts won't beat m4/3 or APS-C with fast primes or good zooms but those lenses are $500+ and requires an enthusiast to use.
The 14mm f2.5, 20mm f1.7, 25mm f1.8, and 45mm f1.8, can all be had for $250-350... Hardly $500/per. The 12/2, 15/1.7, and 17/1.8 are a little pricier but can still brr found under $500 during sales or returb. There's also the Sigma f2.8 primes, the 60mm in particular is quite a bargain. There's third party fisheyes for $200-250 too...