And he took off when he realized it wasn't a D800 so he could just get one at the store. Maybe Nikon will run a series of John Cameron Swayze ads with this.
King Penguin: Nice cam but I think I'll wait for the D600, apparently its gonna be FX and a lot cheaper..... :)
The point of no focus motor (if any of this is even true) is to increase the number of lenses sold. This has historically been a problem with cameras whose lens mount has been around for a long time. People buy the body or one new lens and they're gone. Almost like selling an inkjet printer and no ink.
Slobodan Blagojevic: The real question is why would I want to post larger? To make it more attractive for thieves to still it and/or print it?
I agree, but posting anything to Flickr is giving it away. Like using Facebook and expecting you still have some privacy. I have a real estate developer who grabs my photos from Flickr and then denies it, so I post small images, watermark and live with it. No, it is not practical to take legal action. The lesson? Even if an image cannot be printed as a 40x60, there is still money to be made.
Jonathan Siegel: If these cameras were made entirely by a cheap labour factory in some rural village, then I would take issue with their pricing and simply tag their wealthy consumers as sheep. If in fact these are all hand made in Germany as these photos imply, and the video that has been circulating showing how they refine each piece and paint the numbers on the lens by hand, then these cameras are absolutely worth the money. In my line of work, you might come after me and say the same thing, but if you sat there and watched just how long it takes me to do it, and the sheer amount of time, perfection and technique I pour into each project, you would understand my pricing as well. Besides, if these things were cheap then everyone would have one and it would lose it's magic. Work hard, save up, buy one when you are ready. That is what I intend to do.
The problem is that Leica has entered into an endless loop of limited editon boutique items which are very nice yet have nothing in particular to do to with photography. Leica has caught a break more than once, being saved from extinction, and people who are new to photography are discovering that wide angle lenses for RF cameras are usually better and always smaller than SLR lenses. Of course this was true for Nikon and Canon RF lenses as well and it wasn't long ago that everybody engraved and painted the numbers on even the cheapest lenses. But to people who haven't seen this before, it's impressive, I guess. Anyway, a fine product made by hand, by people who get 6 weeks vacation and that's what you're paying for.
Michele Kappa: Wow! How nice it is to see so many persons hating Leica and at the same time posting so many comments on each article about Leica...The LCD sucks! The IQ sucks! Price too high! My xxx blows this one and costs half! My yyy + zzz blows this one and costs a third! It's ugly! (WHAT?!?) What outrageous noise! Leica sucks! Leica will die!
Meanwhile, [fairytalemode] in a little village in Germany [/fairytalemode], Leica has lasted a century building beautiful, trustworthy cameras that never lose their value, which the greatest photographers in the world have used to create some of the most memorable photos ever.
Really goes to show: if you can't have it, at least hate it. :P
This is a nice story but things started catching up with Leitz as far back as the 1970s (I was there). It was a wonderful place to work at the time but even then the economics and limited resources dictated some manufacturing in Portugal and buying electronics and lenses from other companies and re-branding. A lot the stuff was perfectly good but as with Panasonic, people found out and some felt cheated. More recently, the Leica camera business has been bought, sold and saved from the brink several times. It is a testament to the power of the brand, however, that somewhat eccentric investors will swoop in and prop up the company. BTW, the limited edition stuff grew out of slow sales. After the Olympics and the 50th anniversary were successful, eveything under the sun warranted a limited edition. Safari R3, anyone? Still a classic Leica is a fine product and it's no secret that rangefinder lenses are often superior to the best SLR equivalents.
Marty4650: Hey... lets be honest.
A camera optimized for black and white photography is news.A "special commemorative designer edition" for $25,000 isn't news at all.
Leica is famous for grinding out special editions that only differ in two ways from their regular editions... "they cost a lot more" and are "very exclusive."
Dpreview needs to get off their Leica worship kick. These are just repackaged cameras, offering nothing new or innovative. This website should be about cameras, not about marketing methods of squeezing more money out of people who have too much money for their own good.
The only "news" here is that a few fools will order these overpriced kits.
Absolutely correct. And make no mistake; Nikon and Canon are well aware that many of the professionals they sell to are not professionals by any definition. I can recall gold Leicas being a tough sell but one time in Tokyo I saw a guy in Yoyogi Park shooting both gold M and R cameras (and a Widelux) so such things do happen.
Zerg2905: A different perspective: Canon uses a Canon sensor. Nikon uses a SONY sensor. But imagine a scenario where the 36 Mp SONY sensor will be used by the 5D Mk III. Now, which one of the two cameras you will choose, both having the same sensor, but considering all other differences? So, in other words, is Nikon D800 an "amazing camera", or just a / the pure benefit of the magnificent SONY sensor that "made" a big score DP review (I 300% agree with the word "magnificent" - for what is designed to do, not more, not less)?! If so, Canon should wake up, quickly (memo to Canon: get back to work!) - SONY is not Nikon (although I am not sure that I want a 24X36 Canon DSLR with 40 Mp - some will find it useful, but it's not for me). Cheers! :)
It's interesting that Nikon who lack the capability to make their own sensor seem to have come up with a better sensor than Canon's. But I doubt that Canon, with it's vast resources, will be getting out of the camera business because of the D800. Nor do we have any way of knowing how much Canon needs to charge for a 5DIII to make a profit. Frankly, if Canon can get an extra $500 and still have backorders, they are smarter than Nikon. Or Canon's customers are dumber, for not dumping all their Canon lenses so they can save that $500. And if you have lenses for both (I do) you'll end up with both (I did).
nathanleebush: It's a commonly known (and exploited) psychological phenomenon that people who pay more for a product tend to be happier with their purchase than if they paid a fraction for the exact same product. The Psychology of Persuasion is just one book that comes to mind documenting this. People equate quality with price tag, which is why you have so many Leica self-deluders. I'll admit the build quality is nice and the camera feels great in the hands, but as a digital electronic device, it's laughable that you'd ask $8k for that thing.
I remember talking to a Hassy rep who was saying a large part of their clientele are just gazillionaires with too much money on their hands who just want "the best" to take their vacation pictures with. Nevermind that "the best" doesn't fit their needs at all. Hassy is happy to take their money off their hands, and so is Leica.
I wouldn't call people who buy Leica self deluders because they know perfectly well they are not professional photographers. In fact, one of the reasons they can afford Leica is because they are doctors and lawyers. I worked for Leitz so I am not just speculating.
A reasonable person would say this is unfortunate but predictable given the level of complexity.
Joed700: I don't know what's wrong with these major camera manufacturers. Consumers are paying over 3 grants for this so-called top of the line pro cameras, and you would think you get something bug free with that kind of price tag. Oh no, the Canon 5D2 can't focus, Canon 5D3 has a light leak issue while the D800 is a backward version of the D700 with mediocre LCD screen and backward auto focus switch. Canon and Nikon, if you can't get your acts together, get out of this business f#XKer!!!
And the space shuttle has tiles that fall off. Technology causes problems. Or should I say "issues".
gl2k: Unfortunately this is not the only problem. Seems that the D800 is plagued from quite a few issues.Fix them and I'll buy it.
Well, you're dealing with very childish people here who think they are rooting for a sports team or that one brand is both flawless and dramatically superior to the others. I'm amazed that digital cameras are anywhere near as good as they are and there are so many other things to consider like lenses (pretty important), what the company is like to deal with, etc.
Dan Pettus: Does anyone take photographs with their cameras? We use the MK III’s for our work including weddings, portraits and engagements. Like all our Canon gear they work and they work tough. We’re not gentle. They are tools of the trade. Is the 5 D MK III worth the investment? Yes. It is simply better in every aspect over the MK II. And the MK II is no slouch to a hard day’s work. Do we care how the guts inside are done? Nope. If it didn’t work then Canon would fix it. But they do work and provide a positive return on investment over and over.
Recent Engagement Session http://danpettusimages.com/engvelasco/ Recent Wedding http://danpettusimages.com/dewalsche/
Yes, but you are a real, working photographer so your concerns are different.
I am so dissapointed. I was expecting all 5D mk III cameras to be recalled for immediate replacement with a new, "5D mk IV dpreview edition". To find out this horrendous disaster can be fixed with a piece of tape and from what I can see, most current owners are not going to bother.
Always liked his photos, especially the fireman. Never understood Stephen Shore or William Eggleston but I get the baby in the basket.
OneGuy: I don't understand why dpr would not ask fuji what the new model the modified sensor would carry. X10a? I mean, the orbs are unacceptable and there should be a recall. Cannot dpr think on the side of a consumer?
Is it dark in all directions under those shades?
My guess is Fuji will offer anyone who has a white orb problem a new sensor. Of course, replacing a sensor is a lot of labor so they can't do all the cameras at once. Nonetheless, within 48 hours of the announcement there were already complaints that Fuji had not setup a hotline for instant sensor replacement. They could do this quickly by swapping cameras but then people would complain they got a refurb. Creating a new model designation would make all the existing cameras worthless even if they had the newer sensor installed plus waste a lot of money on new top plates.
Tom Goodman: Fuji can save all potential buyers a considerable amount of anxiety by simply stamping the manufacturing date on the bottom of each X10. This assumes they will only use the new sensors in newly manufactured cameras. At some point we have to trust Fuji, but more to the point, at some point they have to earn our trust.
Buy now, it's obvious that Fuji has decided not to do a recall. If they were to stamp the cameras with a date, they would have an instant recall on their hands. Not because everybody has orbs but because everybody wants the newer sensor. Rather than worrying if you can trust Fuji (or any company, for that matter) why not point the camera at a very intense specular light and see if it produces an orb?
Oh, the horror. So far, no posts saying this will cause Nikon to go out of business, which is encouraging. The Nikon USA website says 7 batteries have been reported but it's probably a cover-up. I'll bet they've had 10 or 12 defective batteries.
Francis Carver: Biggest bug they gotta fix is the rather ridiculous price of this lame-legged so-so camera.
Maybe when they fill all the backorders.
Marty4650: I give Fuji a lot of credit for this solution.
They created a really fine camera that had a flaw. They tried a firmware fix, and it failed. Now they will swap the sensor out for an improved version that doesn't have this flaw.
This was probably the most expensive fix, and they are now probably losing money on every X10 previously sold that must now be modified. But by doing so, they gain credibility with their customers.
They did the right thing, and their customers will appreciate it.
Only Fuji knows how many people had a problem with orbs. If it was anywhere near a high percentage they would have stopped selling the camera. This is obvious, right? There is only one possible explanation why X10 cameras are still on the shelves and were never recalled. And it has nothing to do with being a good or bad company, morality, ethics, etc. It's simply that most people who buy an X10 like it
Wintergreen: Don't agree to give them credit. They should finish their products "before" selling them, not "after".
Yes they created fine cameras but, for the X10 as well as the X100, you really get the impression that they rushed them out without proper testing and validation. You don't inspire confidence with that.
I like those 2 camera, but as we say in France : "qui aime bien, chatie bien"
I agree that even something as incredibly complex as a digital camera should be 100% perfect, all the time, in every way, under every situation and for every user. But it's not possible to test to that degree. Minor problems are already being reported on 5D mkIII bodies and the D800. Surely these $3000 cameras should be perfect but they're not and life will go on.