slncezgsi: The Sigma is a little surprise to me, but why not. It shows how highly regarded (overhyped maybe?) is lens speed today - in spite of the huge advancement in high ISO performance. But I must give it to Signa that it went to direction other did not dare (or bother).
Pentax must have done something right if they managed to beat Nikon and Canon by such a large margin. But maybe it is that Nikon and Canon users care less ;)
I own both Nikon and Canon and I agree with RichRMA completely.
PamlicoKid: …and people will complain.
I doubt that people who receive a D610 for their D600 will complain about it. Hey, it's worth a try.
One thing this has taught me is that if you are not experiencing a problem, the problem is overblown, exaggerated, way out of proportion. If you are experiencing the problem, its not exaggerated or overblown. Funny how that works.
tkbslc: Pretty impressive.
However, what about all the other photographers who don't have the money or need for the absolute best? A $400 50mm f1.4 is fantastic for most of us. A7 is a pretty cheap FF body. Seems like a handful of $400-600 primes would be in order.
If you do have the money and have been told that more megapixels is always better, that answers half the question. The other half is that you haven't been told that the extra megapixels you probably didn't need will really tax lenses that you used to be happy with.
AbrasiveReducer: I think it's unfair to compare to Canon and Nikon 50 1.8 lenses because these designs were traditionally made as cheap as possible so if the customer had any money left after buying the body, they could still afford a lens.
With the expensive Otus and the not great 58mm Nikon, this Sony seems like a deal. If you really like 50mm lenses.
The Canon 1.4 is old and less than half the price. I'm sure this Sony is better than the Canon 1.2 but these really aren't the same type of lens.
shaocaholica: Sharpness is overrated for the casual photographer.
I think this lens is aimed at Lloyd Chambers as a less expensive substitute for his mirror slap studies.
markprincess: Big Deal! I sent in my D40 for repair to fix a faulty battery compartment door and Nikon sent me back a D4!
Most excellent! I sent my Nikkorex Zoom and they didn't have parts so they gave me a black Nikon SP with f/1.1 lens and motor drive.
I think it's unfair to compare to Canon and Nikon 50 1.8 lenses because these designs were traditionally made as cheap as possible so if the customer had any money left after buying the body, they could still afford a lens.
white shadow: Sony is finally getting there.
Now, they will have to produce a few wide angle lenses, namely 21mm, 24mm and a 28mm and a portrait lens like an 85mm to complete the set.
A 100mm macro lens would be great.
Later, they can produce a 70-200 f/2.8 zoom lens for general use.
Will we see this in the next 2 years before we can seriously consider the Sony A series over Canon or Nikon?
Zeiss has done it for their ZE and ZF mounts. Will Sony go on the fast track to catch up?
Start saving now. If this is what they charge for the 50mm lens....
Mike99999: Spectacular. This confirms the DxO findings.
I'm happy Sony is following the OM-D route by releasing high quality primes from the start, even if they are significantly more expensive than standard Canikon offerings.
As an owner of the 55/1.8 and 35/2.8 I couldn't be happier and I've begun the process of selling all my Nikon lenses.
I cannot wait for what primes Sony/Zeiss have in store next. I've been playing with the Zeiss Planar T* 85mm f/1.4 ZA and Sonnar T* 135mm f/1.8 ZA with adapter at the camera store. Those lenses are amazing...
I haven't found DxO results to match my own (at all) but it's good to know that DxO findings at least agree with DxO findings.
He's aged so much since I last saw a picture of him. No surprise, I guess.
3sgilbert: They can't admit it because it would basically be a recall at that point and cost them a lot...they aren't willing for that....personally I think they should at least have a generous trade in policy for d600 users to d610 only.....Fyi.....Canon repaired 2 second hand 7d bodies for me one out of warranty no problems with a quick turn around in both cases....
Doesn't matter if it's Canon, Fuji, Audi, Toyota. Johnson & Johnson. When all else fails, do the right thing. But after enough time has passed, there is no right thing.
You can almost feel them twisting in the wind. In addition to the "it will cost too much" guy and the "admit nothing guy" there is now the "it's too late to revisit this now" guy. Ouch.
yabokkie: in Japan Nikon service is better than Canon (maybe only me). Nikon repair things that I didn't notice even the services are for free. so one could expect to receive similar treatment even Nikon don't give you a new D610 this time.
but Nikon seems lucky that Nikon users send their gears for service less often (for they know their gears less). only my impression.
They are so much more customer oriented in Japan, it's almost worth making a trip. I haven't found them to be cheaper but they are very accommodating.
Kurt_K: Stellar optics, no doubt, but man are these Touit lenses ugly.
They were going to make the focusing ring out of Ethiopian burled zebra wood but after the reception the Hasselblad received they decided to play it safe and go with metal and glass.
Mina J: Just left Samy's Camera in Beverly Hills, CA and the sales representative said that the RX10 was a better deal than the A7 or 7R, mainly because of the lens on the RX10. I'm just saying.
It's simple (and this applies to Fuji, too). If you buy a fairly expensive camera with a fixed lens, you tell everybody that's all you ever wanted. Problem solved.
km25: I would rather deal with weight of the Nikons, then deal with all the factors of the A7/R. The advantage of mirror less cameras is that you can use RF lens from CZ and Leica, ect. on them. But you cannot use anything wider them 35mm. Good idea, poor execution. The sensors are good. But the rest is not. Maybe the A8/r will be a good camera. Sorry, but Sony think it through. This camera on as idea is great, but the A7 falls short.
Some wide angles are fine. For the ones that aren't, it's no fun trying to fix unless you really enjoy spending extra time at the computer.
I'm sure this is great but I wish Zeiss would focus their lens design efforts on lens types that are pretty bad, like wide angle zooms. Creating a sharp macro lens seems like a very low bar.
Donnie G: If a camera design is done right, then there is no need to hype up any mythical marketing advantages of mirrorless ILC tech vs. traditional SLR tech in order to sell the camera to enthusiasts. The Fujifilm X-T1 is an excellent example of a camera design that is done right. No further hype required.
Sure, people like a camera that looks like one and has the controls where a human can get to them. But number of "responses" has nothing to do with number of sales. Everything from Photoshop subscriptions to white orbs has generated tons of chatter. There hasn't been this level of excitement since the Df. Or maybe it was the a7r. It's hard to remember back that far.
sean lee: Hi, Guys. I have a question. I am not professional photographer. Just like to take pictures.
Now I am using Canon t2i with EF 50mm F1.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 and Sigma 10-20mm. I am satisfying with their IQ but I want to have little smaller body in retro style. I was waiting if canon announce retro style SLR so I can keep the lenses I have now, but I don't think canon will announce and I am tire to keep waiting.
If I switch to Olympus E-M10 or Panasonic GM1, am I down grade or up grade? or just same grade in IQ? Thank you,
The sensors in the Olympus and Panasonic are newer, which to DPR readers means better. If you are somewhat critical, you may see better dynamic range (less tendency to block highlights) with the newer cameras. Otherwise, the larger sensor and perfectly adquate lenses you have will give as good or better results. What these cameras offer is lighter weight, smaller size, and lots of new features, some of which are useful.