Tungsten Nordstein: The Fox Talbot is a masterpiece of miniaturisation. No wonder the Japanese want it. I hope we return to the simplicity of this little camera when the death of digital photography is announced in 2045.
Anything without software, firmware and near instant obsolescence.
I tried one of these headsets and still prefer the cardboard glasses with the red/cyan lenses for their lighter weight and lower cost. But, as pointed out below, this could be a great way to study human anatomy.
I understand why Tamron makes these lenses but I don't understand why people buy them. Sure, convenience is everything, but if that's priority #1, why buy an interchangeable lens camera?
Pritzl: It will be interesting to see which models get retrofitted with this. It would illuminate how Sony feel about their cameras; valuable tools or expendable toys?
Maybe they think of them as products that get steadily improved and that users will replace often.
topstuff: These lenses just show how useless Canikon are I not providing the option of proper focusing screens. These lenses are barely usable with critical focus being so tricky. And LV on DSLR is rubbish so that's not an answer either.
Maybe the next time DPR does one of their incredibly revealing interviews they can ask why SLRs no longer have interchangeable focusing screens. Of course, if the lack of a suitable screen forces you to buy a Nikon lens instead of a Zeiss lens they're probably not too upset.
LFPCPH: Data sheets on all the lenses can be found on Cosinas site via the link below. The data sheets does not say “Made in Japan” but they are marked with Cosinas logo and they do not say “Made in Germany” neither.
A good lens is a good lens regardless of where it is made. But people spending this money want Zeiss even if its a Zeiss design made by Cosina. There's nothing wrong with Cosina; they can make "Zeiss" lenses at lower cost than Zeiss can.
China is another story because those workers don't earn much so those items should be really cheap, but they're not.
starwolfy: Another computer camera from the A7 line.Sold my A7ii 2 months after purchase and went back to a M8. I tried Sony but I am now sure that this type of camera , despite being way newer than a Leica M, is just not my type of cameras. Specs doesn't make it all...and I was missing too much that top shutter speed wheel !
There are computer cameras that mimic human cameras and others that don't. Sometimes, the human approach doesn't work well, as with the Df. But companies like Fuji seem to do the human interface well, even if it's just a computer. Probably a heritage of making cameras vs. a history of making computers.
Wild Light: Fine if you like slushy noisy soft images with ropey colour.
I hate ropey colour.
Too bad it's a joke. You could take it to Yosemite and it would just lock up. Point it at Justin Beiber or Miley Cyrus and it would jam and shut down. Try to shoot the Eiffel Tower from underneath? Good luck, pal. Circular star trails? I don't think so....
rishikol: One thing is for sure... Sony is serious about taking No. 1 spot in professional photography. With Canon and Nikon equally aggressive it is good time for the customer!
It's a good time for the customer who wants to keep buying and buying cameras. I wish they would increase the ISO, though.
rfsIII: RAW = SLAVERY!
We are many, many years down the path of digital imaging science and a camera like this M3 should be able to produce awesome jpgs without human intervention—RAW should be a distant memory by now.
So why does DPReview shoot in RAW? Why the necessity of all this post processing? Shouldn't part of the money we pay for a camera go to better image processing?
It is time for the camera makers to step up their game and give us photos that are gorgeous straight from the camera so we don't have to waste hours fixing their shortcomings in post.
I like stuff that's easy, too. But I don't know about "no human intervention." We already have more "professional" photographers than there are people. Why? Well, the camera determines the exposure, does the focusing, processes the image optimally and gives instant feedback if you somehow manage to make a mistake.
Of course DPR readers still won't be happy but it's getting to the point where if the subject looks nice, so little skill is needed, it hardly pays to even show up.
I'm exaggerating. A little. But compared to the time, knowledge and effort it took for an amateur to properly expose & process film and make high quality prints, honestly, how much easier can it get?
Pretty soon, they will make cameras that analyze the subject and determine the composition--or let you listen to music or make phone calls while you decide where you want to point the camera.
We're these taken by Ken Rockwell? I don't know anyone else who would use a camera like this and test it's quality by shooting jpegs.
ryan2007: I would like to know the experience of the photographer taking the sample galleries. It is either the camera or photographer, but the results are just not good enough to say save your $1,000. If anyone should be annoyed are is the manufacture themselves if this is not a true representation of any cameras ability.
If these photos were representative of what the camera can do, or if it cost $1000 I would have to agree with you. But they're not and it doesn't.
TrimbleGator: Haters still are going to hate. Most of the people who are complaining about this camera don't even own it. I own it! I love it! Now no camera is perfect just ask Nikon's d600😇! Dont get me wrong there is no comparison between the two (7DMII blows it away) but that was a crowning achievement for Nikon wasn't it?
The sense is in comparing something that has a defect with something else that does not. Or at least not a problem serious enough to result in legal action. Has nothing to do with sensor size.
On the Mirrorless Mover (sounds like a Motown record) what happened to the corner on the flap? I suppose it's a handle but it looks like they ran out of material. ThinkTank bags, with or without leather flaps, are great, IMO.
AbrasiveReducer: There is some irony that Leica should be the one to demonstrate medium format is still better.
Yes, but Pentax acknowledged the usefulness of medium format long ago with 67 and 645 whereas a Leica was always a 35mm camera.
There was also a time when Nikon advertised the F as the ideal camera for every task. There was nothing you could not do with the F system. Then they started making view camera lenses.
nerd2: Here's some facts.
-Iphone 6s still lacks OIS-Iphone 6s/6s+ has EXACTLY SAME sensor size and optics (which means the same f2.2 aperture)-Now they crammed 1.5x more pixel into same sized sensor, so now pixel pitch is 1.22um down from 1.5um of IP6
Let's compare this to Samsung GS6.
-f2.2 optics is 34% slower than f1.9 optics of GS6.-Each pixel is 18% larger (in area) than 1.12um pixels of GS6.-So GS6's each pixel takes 13% more light than IP6s.-And GS6 has 33% more pixel count than IP6s.
This simple calculation says that for low light photography, GS6 has theoretical 50% advantage over IP6s. Oh GS6 has OIS too....
No. That's not the reason DPR exists nor is it the reason Amazon bought DPR. The difference between scientific evaluation of images and great images is why DxO information is of such little value to photographers. To statisticians, it's priceless.
Promit: Okay, let's get a couple of the common ones out of the way, shall we?
"Canon keeps making a great camera even better.""Finally Canon is acknowledging that their flagship sports DSLR still needs work.""Now if only Canon could fix the dynamic range in a firmware update.""Pointless, just buy a A7R II instead. DSLRs are dead.""This level of of commitment to pros is why Canon will never lose marketshare to other brands.""Good to see they're not charging for firmware updates like Panasonic.""Sony <whatever> is better.""Nikon <whatever> is better.""Overpriced camera that still doesn't focus well.""The best crop DSLR on the market keeps getting better.""I had a 7D2 and it was the worst camera ever made. Now I shoot with four D810s and thirty thousand dollars of lenses.""I had a D810 and it was the worst camera ever made. Now I shoot with the 7D2 and only these Canon lenses.""My iPhone still focuses faster.""No EVF, no point.""Nikon needs to release the D400 immediately."
You forgot one. When Fuji corrects a problem: "Thank you Fuji for making a great camera even better!!!" For some reason, this enthusiasm for firmware updates applies only to Fuji.
krazeyez: So Canon seems to be feeling the heat from some other places and it is trying to future proof itself and assure their customer base that "hey we can do innovation too, look at what can we make up out of thin air".
Smells like desperation to me.
It seems they have difficulty with the digital product cycle. There was a time when you spent a few thousand on a camera and it was all you needed for 5-10 years. It still wasn't an "investment" but it was good value, at least.
Now, Sony makes your camera old in a year and obsolete in two and Canon is having trouble thinking up legitimate reasons for consumers to keep buying. 120 mp files will be great for a cover story in Popular Science, though.
There is some irony that Leica should be the one to demonstrate medium format is still better.