lacikuss: So what are the expectations for a mini camera like this? To perform like a FF pro camera? lol...
What we are talking about is a little "gold mine" market segment that Sony discovered to which it sells convenient cameras for $800 and Canon now for $700. These cameras don't offer high IQ but because their size and no competition people would pay those prices. I'm happy with the competition, I hope the price will come down to around $450 which is what it is worth to me.
They do offer better IQ than your best smarthphone though
Not a gold mine but one of the few areas where the market hasn't been saturated. The good news for manufacturers is that there is plenty of room for improvement in these cameras and anybody serious enough to spend this money will happily buy the next one if they improve the image quality, focus speed, etc.
Mariano Pacifico: I knew it! I knew it! This Canon Powershot G7x was fast tracked to compete against the seasoned RX100 M3. Bad move, Canon. I'll wait for G7x2
How do you know this?
I have a third opinion (and having had two Sonys) which is that neither of these cameras is worth the money. The whole point of buying one of these is to get $800 image quality but neither is really spectacular--they are just surprisingly good relative to their size. In other words, pay a big premium for compactness.
But then to say I can't access the card while it's on a tripod...if you're going to carry a tripod, that's 2-3 pounds right there. Why not add a few ounces and bring a bigger camera with image quality worthy of using a tripod?
stevevelvia50: I first saw images of this abandoned town through the work of world renown photographer Freeman Patterson. Perhaps someone had photographed there before him, but his compositional approach to making photographs within the buildings are the ones that have been countlessly imitated over the years. That being said many great images are still being made here by a new generation of photographers.
I thought these looked familiar.
If this is needed, it should come from Sony. Fotodiox imports some nice, cheap accessories but a lens mount? I don't think so. At least if you get a bad or mis-aligned adapter you can toss it.
I'd be interested in seeing a photo taken with a 16mm lens on a full frame camera where the effect of the polarization--sorry, polarisation, is equal and even across the entire image. With live view, you can even see in advance that it won't work.
In some places the Canon looks soft and in others, the Sonys have so much CA there are red fringes around the test pattern. As always, the camera with a bigger sensor gives better results and if you want a small camera with really sharp corners and wide angle, skip zoom lenses entirely. Well, no surprises.
Joseph Black: Hating Canon is the new thing to do. If some of these people weren't so bored with their cameras or with photography in general maybe they'd stick to having constructive conversations in forums that are actually relevant to them. Think Canon is doomed, lazy, neglecting their customers? Fine. Why not go on about your business and just let them die? Why do we have to hear your self-righteous disconent?
Instead of hating a company, hate the people who keep buying the cameras. They're the ones who enable the company to keep on selling in large numbers. The "enemy" is people who keep buying Canon cameras. If they found the cameras didn't meet their needs, Canon would be forced to make something different.
When mine arrives (Ken Rockwell got the first one) I'm putting a Spiratone skylight filter on, to protect that big front element.
JonB1975: Well.... this has revealed a lot of ignorance and idiocy......
Though Canon does need to pull it's finger out when it comes to their photo products, their cine stuff is pretty special....
I hear they make some pretty sharp lenses for still cameras too.
As with all Canon cameras, dynamic range is fine if it's overcast but takes some knowledge to deal with in higher contrast situations. Exposing for a full minute at 800 ISO doesn't seem like a good idea, either. Other than that, it looks like a nice package with a decent sized sensor. I'd like to see a nice holiday rebate but since the original G1X is still in the line at $550 retail, probably not.
alexeckersley: I've previously owned the RX100 and upgraded to the G7X when I was recently in Singapore as the RX100 had died on me. In the flickr link below are some photos from dusk to almost dark in Fort Canning Park and more recently at Arakoon in NSW Australia. Untouched full size... mostly on auto range of zoom as I familiarise myself with the cameras strengths. I find them in general more natural with the interpretation of colour and light compared to the Sony and am very happy with the detail.https://www.flickr.com/photos/127776580@N06/sets/72157648566961065/
What was wrong with the RX100 that made her switch?
Stefan Sobol: Using the DJI Phantom 2 (or anything like it) to take real estate pictures is currently illegal in the US even if you have permission from the property owner. The use of "drones" for commercial purposes (i.e. in exchange for compensation) is illegal. This law applies to hobbyist aircraft as well. If you give the images away you might be ok, but then the Phantom will not be paid for in 4 shoots.
However, it is perfectly legal to hover a big helicopter over the poor neighbor's house so you can take some pictures and you can charge whatever you want for them.
Interesting. But as I tell my kids, nothing is wrong unless you get caught, and I wonder if anyone polices this sort of activity.
Good for them. People who want a pocket sized camera that's full frame will find this has always been possible with this antiquated technology.
SulfurousBeast: Anyone think "made in china" LX100 is a dampener or even a deal breaker? Sort of this premium compact losing its cachet? Wonder where the Typ109 is made, dont want a made in China Leica, that's me though... But guess a lot of you out there thnking along the same lines...?
Last time I checked, wages in China were just slightly lower than in Japan. So that explains why manufacturers are eager to build in China. What it doesn't explain is why these cost savings aren't passed along to the consumer.
There is also the politically incorrect assumption that Japanese culture embraces perfection in a way the Chinese don't. That's a bit of a stretch but if you had a choice between equivalent Japanese and Chinese cars, which would you take?
Really nice and he obviously has a great rapport with people.
ThomasSwitzerland: Ken Rockwell has just published snapshots on the D750 with the 20mm f/1.8.
To me this represents outstanding journalistic quality in time and precision. Why cannot the so much larger <dpreview> deliver?
Fortunately, I think the camera is capable of much better images than Ken's super saturated hand-held shots. The shot of Radio City is impressively blurry at the edges, especially on the right--wow. Not sure how the master manged this with a 20mm lens.
Samuel Dilworth: Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Why does no-one make a sophisticated camera today?
Camera-phones have mopped up the non-enthusiasts. The mad boom of selling SLRs by feature count to people who used one feature – full auto – is over. Soon the boom of bigger and better sensors will be over.
What remains is an unmet need to focus on quality, simplicity, and usability.
In this discussion about LX100 fluff features:
… NameFinder said:
“I think, the LX100 with its retro outer layout of direct dials heads in that direction. Now, if the inner layout would follow, freed of gadgets and clutter, we would have a classical photo camera.”
Although I think “retro” is misused here, he/she makes a great point. Where is this camera?
The wild enthusiasm over Nikon’s Pure Photography campaign validates the concept, though the baroque Df was an insult to it.
I think the problem is electronics. When cameras were mechanical, or mostly mechanical, adding features meant a lot of work and finding a place for another button.
Now that the camera industry has become a small part of the consumer electronics business it's easy to add useless features and they require just one more button press or combinations of button presses.
The next time some fan goes nuts over a game changer like the Df and Pure Photography, they would do well to remember that here, we have 1500 posts and it hasn't cost Canon a dime.
justmeMN: Canon estimates that, this year, they will sell 9.5 million compact cameras, and 7.0 million DSLRs.
Not bad, for a company that does everything wrong, and that everyone hates. :-)
T3 makes a good point about large companies depending on interia to keep them profitable. But then, T3 says think for yourself; don't buy something just because the manufacturer is big.
This is great reasoning but does not take into account other important factors like the quality and number of lenses available, the quality and number of lenses the person already has, the availability of rental equipment, whether the manufacturer is typically easy to deal with, etc. Not to mention, if cost is an issue, does the company give good value for money.
Innovation is great. Look at Windows, which just keeps getting better. But there are lots of reasons why people keep buying Nikon and Canon.