starwolfy: I just Hope this camera will fail and not sale because I don't like Sony.(a guy who remembered he bought a super small nice wow genius NEX who electronically failed after 2000 exposures -_- )
That's the reason why I won't buy any other Fuji camera again.As my X100 failed with the Sticky Aperture also around 5000 shots.
I judge these brands regarding my experience with them.It's you who is narrow minded judging me without knowing me.
I just Hope this camera will fail and not sale because I don't like Sony.(a guy who remembered he bought a super small nice wow genius NEX who electronically failed after 2000 exposures -_- )
Tape5: It is certainly a great camera to own. More than a Leica with a similar lens. Leica is fussy. RX1 is like a gymnast ready to go places. Leica looks like it has been to places and is ready to go home for a nap. Nearly all the people I know who own Leicas say that they feel vulnerable carrying it late in the streets. That is like buying a Ferrari and hating the Swiss Alps. It is like marrying Kate Moss and hating .........sorry got carried away.
I think Sony understands more than other manufacturers what people want. A lot of high tech and great lenses in small packages. It is simpler than ice cream.
LEICA LEICA LEICA...I do own Leica's, I'm not tall, not a boxer and I don't care carying it anywhere for a simple reason:
Maybe 0.05% of people I meet in the street, subway or whatever even don't know what a Leica is. Others just think I'm carrying an old vintage camera. And for those 0.05% who know...they are camera enthousiats or passionates...not killers, rapists or pervs.
Frankly...when I go out with my camera I am the only who know it's expensive. I'm sure a guy with an Iphone has 1000x more chances to get his phone stolen than me with a Leica in the hands -_-
I am a Leica owner, Nikon owner Fuji owner, Sony owner, and I had a Samsung NX10 around 2-3 years ago when it came out first.Samsung's cameras are like said before, the best kept secret in camera industry.Their little cameras are just a joy to use. Ergonomics are just wonderful and far beyond Sony Nex, Fuji's camera I own too (NEX5 and Fuji X100).Their lenses are no slouch either and they have some of the best pancakes primes on the market ie their amazingly small and sharp 30mm F2.Their lenses roadmap is the most photographer friendly on the market too and they are to me the only brand who really succeed to have a real "camera and lens system".
Their sensor was criticized earlier because it was not matching highest performance in terms of noise. Their new cameras have a news sensor which is fairly as good as last Sony's NEX. Samsung just lacks better brand image.
If you go for Sony...you get less for more money in my opinion
Samsung is my second preferred brand after Leica
nawknai: Best lens lineup by far.
I don't get it. Are there cameras just that bad that they don't even get a mention in the EVIL/CSC race? All you hear about are m4/3, NEX, and Fuji, even here. I just bought a Fuji X-Pro 1, but if Samsung had better reviews (and I could find them at a local shop), I would have certainly taken a look at Samsung.
False statement taktak91.
I work for fashion industry. We produce high quality clothes with the same quality as Lacoste do with the scientifically proved best coton on this world.
Regarding our margins we are able to offer polo shirts at a price tag of 30 euros and make big profits on it. Since our marketing image is based on quality products we are pushed to sell them at a retail price of 90 euros for the simple reason that our competitors, like Lacoste, charge this price. We do that simply because customers believe that quality is related to this higher retail price. If we offer our polo at a price tag of 30 euros...non of our customer would believe the quality is the same as Lacoste, despite we have the exact same coton supplier :)
While in Blue mode...the writtings are not fadded when a post is marked as read.In Yellow...it works fine and the darker yellow makes it easier to understand what was read and what was not.
The_Wicker_Man: Not nice ay all. I know some changes take some gettimg used to, but the new layout is much less readable
This remind me a great french website I use to read. They made a "re-design" to implement articles on home page in a cleaner way with more space and picture. At the end of the day it just made a huge loss of vertical space. After being tired of scrolling like a madman to find the interesting articles and step by step stoped reading this site.
Simon Joinson you can say people are haters...and in IT projects people tell to complain fast anytime their environment is changed...but you cannot deny that the loss of vertical space is huge and annoying...and that the color used are making our eyes to bleed...
I looked at those pics with my wife.Indeed nothing wrong with those. We enjoyed them all and we are not american nor thinking those people look idiots...
I like the raw approach of the photographer. It's like...there a studio...but it feels a bit like the photoshoot was done by a friend for a friend...with this kind of "unprofessional professionalism" if you get what I mean.
I think it changes from what we usually see and it's cool.
I hope the photographer assumed this as it was his idea and how he wanted it to be...as it is what he decided to produce and show...Instead of this he listened too much to criticism and started to say apologies like he was not prepared blablabla...
There should be no rules to expression.
Superka: There are many famous photo tech brands, that new manufacture has to surprise us with really great features to pay attention to it. Samsung is not, especially for this price.
So basicaly you are telling us that these Samsung cameras are not worth their launching price?I would be happy to get your reviews of these cameras since you seem to have informations we do not have.
edtav: Too bad Samsung does not make a powerful external flash with SWIVEL function for their NX cameras, otherwise I would really consider the NX20. Get serious Samsung..!
My first recollection about photography is my father complaining that: he has to shoot in B&W because color film and its processing costs too much and the only place which can develop the film is on the other side of the city.
I think somebody had to release B&W digital camera, if only to remind people why everybody went to color and haven't looked back much.
B&W and vignetting this days are art filters - not compromises one has to live with.
Now you can open an art Book, have a look at the current best photographers in activity today...and start wondering why you see so much Black and White photographs.
Jogger: The cost of the camera and 50/2 would buy you a D800 and $13000 of very good lenses. Am i making too much sense?
Just a matter of choice.If I had this amount of money, I would rather go for this B&W Leica with a one and only 50mm or 35mm than a new Nikon Machine Gun anyday.As a owner of a much older and much cheaper Leica M8, there is no reason I would trade my body for a Nikon D800E or an XPro1 whatever.Leica is the style of shooting style and experience I have been looking for. I want to stick to it because it is what I like.You can do all the comparison possible to show how superior an XPro1 and a D800E is superior in sharpness etc. to a Leica M8...I won't trade it anyday for my DailyLife photos. Then if you talk about a "workshorse"...sur I would never buy a Leica M for that matter...except if you work at Magnum as a streetphotographer.
photo nuts: Is this some kind of mistake: X-Pro1 captures resolution 'parallel, if not superior, to a full frame sensor'???
It cannot even compare with a 16 MP APS-C sensor!!!
All I see is mush.
I think what is wrong is that this statement is too general. They should have said: X-Pro1 captures resolution 'parallel, if not superior, to some full frame sensors
opticaloptimum: Those making negative comments about Leica nearly always overlook the superiority of Leica lenses.
sgoldswo > You know...a M9 sensor is so inferior that we could even hardly call it a sensor...! The reason to that, reading all those comments, is simple: It doesn't have LOL clean 25 000 isos to shoot in a sunny day at Iso 6400...so obviously this sensor may be crap! Moreover...2FPS and slow buffer??? Whaha! With my Sony A57 I have 12FPS and a fast buffer so I can review each of my pictures instanltly without any delay when I take pictures of my cat lying on the Sofa in burst mode! This also helps me capture the decisive moments and get cat master pieces like HCB would have done in this modern age!!! Since it's obvious he would have been using a 5d MKIII at iso 100 000 with a 500mm F4 to do streephotography and avoid angry people noticing him taking their pictures.
jwalker019: I checked out an M9 at a local camera shop to see what all the fuss was about. It was a lovely experience: the camera is clearly a fine piece of work, the rangefinder experience is enchanting and the lenses are to die for. But it's also heavy like a brick, has no hand grip to speak of, and has a *very* noisy sensor which was outclassed even when it was released.
I just can't buy into the idea of an $8k camera (no matter how seductive the look and feel) with a fixed, antiquated sensor. Unless you simply have money to burn, it doesn't make sense with a device you'll need to upgrade every 2-3 years.
I disagree. HCB was so obssessed by getting the picture right that he even refuse to crop any of his pictures. Now you say he would have jump on digital and so post processing? I don't think so, despite we will never get the answer to this question.
If people nowadays are amused and feel good with Iso 25000 well I'm happy for them. Photographers, with film cameras, didn't wait that high isos were inventing to start shooting at night tough.
If your thing is Sport phography...then I doubt a manual focus camera is something you should consider...even it has kickass crazy high isos...
clear glass: Yes, a Leica rangefinder is slower. You want to be slower with your digital camera? Wear gloves; that will slow you up.You think more about pictures with a Leica rf? Put your digital camera on full manual, take your time, and think.You see better with a Leica rf? A. You don't see your depth of field. B. Objects don't line up exactly right because you're looking through a separate viewfinder, not the lens. C. A hidden benefit for me, probably because I wear glasses: the rectangle outlining the field of view in the vfs of my M2, M3, M5 and CL looked like a trapezoid; really hard to line up horizontals.Leica rf's are beautiful? Yes. But that won't make your photos beautiful.Every time I pick up my GH1, I thank the inventor of the back screen.
You know what. If you are convinced that a GH1 is a much better camera for yourself...maybe you can possibly imagine and understand that a Leica body is what works best for others?No?? Ah...it doesn't work in the other side?...right.. :/
wb2trf: Leica cameras are bad and, more importantly, irrelevant in the digital age. One may as well have a political conversation about the Russian nobility. Leica's significance if it has any remaining, is as a lens maker. If you want to enjoy Leica lenses, buy a Nex and put it on it.
I'm always amazed how people can bash a product they even never touched once in their Life.Oh my bad...my camera is irrelevant in this digital age. I should stop taking pictures right now.Tell us what is best than an M lens, which is manual, on a M body...with a coupled rangefinder?Ah...yes...Sony guys all know it...an EVF with focus peaking of course! :/
starwolfy: For those who like racing Cars I feel a Leica M9 is a bit like a Porsche 911.It's a pure joy of engineering. It is well made, works amazing well, in a really "pure and raw" approach of racing/photographing. It is mastered best with all options turned off and is capable of producing excellent results under excellent "driving". But, in an other hand...it won't tolerate any mistake from you if you mess. Is is more subtle to use than any other cameras/cars and it may reward your efforts quite well if you do it right.
As the opposite...today's other digital cameras are a bit like the newer Nissang GT-R. It is super technological, super electronical, full loaded of options to help and avoid user mistakes and help him to stay on the track as fast as possible in any circumstances. It's capable of biting a Porsche 911 on the track but is regarded by "many" but not "all' test drivers as a super fast but taste less car/camera compared when piloting a 911.
qwertyasdf > I don't understand what you want to say with your Honda Civic...and the fact it's adequate at a cheaper price point.I have never talked about price nor said you cannot take pictures with cheaper tools. I have talked the feeling in use and tried to make a comparison between what I think is a Leica against what I think are modern cameras for those who never experiments a Leica body.
The funny thing if you agree my comment is that Porsche and Leica are German brands, and Canikon/Fuji/Oly are japanese one...as is the Nissang GT-R.
Do we face a cultural thing here?
For those who like racing Cars I feel a Leica M9 is a bit like a Porsche 911.It's a pure joy of engineering. It is well made, works amazing well, in a really "pure and raw" approach of racing/photographing. It is mastered best with all options turned off and is capable of producing excellent results under excellent "driving". But, in an other hand...it won't tolerate any mistake from you if you mess. Is is more subtle to use than any other cameras/cars and it may reward your efforts quite well if you do it right.