MrPetkus: Tantalizing cam. As a consumer, it's frustrating that Fuji's 3 APS-C offerings are in such different evolutionary states. I like the XPro1 but the recent XE1 has a better EVF spec. Now the X100 comes out with on-chip phase detection and both focus peaking and split focussing...
I, for one, will certainly not purchase either the XPro1 and XE1 knowing that these important (to me) features are in the pipeline. Fuji's outstanding trio is out of sync.
You didn't know MrPektus that 'Frustration' is the key to a good marketing strategy ?See how all those happy Fuji X100 owners are about to break the bank again, some months only after the X100 (if they didn't already did it for the X-Pro 1 or X-E1) because Fuji adressed their frustrations with the X100S.
Don't worry thought...there will remain some frustrations to be adressed in the next next camera update ;) to be willing to switch to X-Pro3 and X-E3
digby dart: Doubtless the Sony RX1 and or a single lens Leica M/Nikon D4 have their advantages, some physical, some in the ether - this Fuji X100s is the one that makes the dream affordable - plus it brings some advantages of its own.
Like sticky aperture ?
I highly recommend the NX series. Very capable and user-friendly cameras. Can't be disappointed.
Karl Summers: Sorry I missed it. I was at the LG booth checking out their vacuum.
I was checking Samsung's cars !
Chris Tofalos: No EVF! Very poor thinking, Samsung...
ChrisKramer1 it seems you know more than what you say here ! You say a Nex5n has a better sensor than the one in this new Samsung camera which was not yet released. I'm impressed and look forward to see all your testing reports, charts as well as all the secret documents you stole from Samsung. Thx
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>>> In an other word...this company does not really know what it wants to do. They are lusting for the kind of electronics + Trend marriage product thing...in any field it seems.
It seems they even cannot make a decent picture of their own product:
zinedi: I appreciate some progress (especially if split-image MF will be usable in practice). But I am deeply disappointed that the old unreliable SAB prone lens was not replaced. I'll wait about 1/2 year to see some service reports - if the lens is likely to survive at least 2-year's working cycle.
Yes they did redesigned it. But what about people like me who didnt' shoot their X100 much and who got the problem after the end of warranty period ?There were so many problems about this that I'm astounded Fuji just ignored us regarding this issue. So basically....as an early adopter I got screwed by Fuji because of their product design error. They didn't take responsibilities for this and that is a huge disappointment.
How can I be willing going for an other Fuji camera again and spend 1300$ in it again ?People may say: hey, I don't have a problem with mine. Well that's fine until it happens to you.
starwolfy: Sure that sounds like an amazing re-born for the X100, now called X100S for Steroid.Too bad Fuji didn't agree fixing my sticky aperture problem that occured with my X100...for free.
They didn't. Out of warranty. That kind of sucks when you know this is 100% product design issue...
Sure that sounds like an amazing re-born for the X100, now called X100S for Steroid.Too bad Fuji didn't agree fixing my sticky aperture problem that occured with my X100...for free.
Gioradan: Nice to see that Samsung have such a loyalty to the brand.But unless a camera manufacture pay you to shoot with their product, the loyalty should be to yourself. And you should be able to critic a camera even if you spend good money on it. While looking like a nice camera, it is lacking any dials to control quickly the exposure. Samsung blurb mention some aperture control in the lens but there is not aperture ring. So you probably will to sacrifice other function to do that. This where most of Panasonic equivalent cameras and all of Sony NEX cameras have the advantage.Seemingly Lack of direct control make this camera more of a very smart point and shot rather then a full creative toll.
Wow, basically you don't know what you are talking about ;)The lack of button won't be a big issue I guess simply because the main photographic features are available from a nicely placed button on the lens linked to a fast ergonomic menu.
Spectro: Samsung evil camera has been out for awhile. Saw one at fry's years ago and ask if they sold many, and she said no. Advertisement and branding play strong in shopper minds. I thought it was a good series for the features at the time.
He didnt'mean evil. He meant Electronical Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens camera :)
Wow...too much of "this is a poor camera even I've never touched it" here.Kind of pathetic, even more since I was in the past an adopter of the first NX10...which was an excellent camera in every point: lenses lineup, reliability, ergonomics.The only problem for chart geeks was the lack of high iso performance...which was adressed by a new sensor some time ago and which is now simply brilliant.It is brilliant at base iso and just "slightly' behind the Sony one at high iso, which is praised worldwide ! That is something if you know that this is just the first 100% Samsung made sensor...This Samsung lineup is just the best kept-secret of mirrorless photography. The only reason I quit the system was to switch to Leica for a complete different kind of camera.
Mescalamba: Doesnt seem exactly thrilling.
3D? Useless gimmick.
9 FPS? Only if it has buffer for 4-5x times more and can have metering and AF while doing that. Which I sincerely doubt.
16:9 LCD? eh.. sure. :/
Tilt LCD? Ok that is improvement.
1/6000 .. joke? Learn how to make that fking global shutter and bring me 1/16000!
EVF? Still no EVF? Wait, not still, again! (NX100 could use it, crappy one but could)
New bla blab processor.. bla high ISO.. bla bla.
Sure, it will work, it wont be bad, but its very small improvement, if any. :/ Quite pathetic Samsung..
And Im actually guy that likes their NX system.
1/6000 = Joke ?I think YOU are the joke !
Fox Fisher: Design: best in class3D: uselessTilting LCD: awesomeNO EVF: no big deal in this segmentNO built-in flash: hmmm thats -1 on portability sideWi-Fi: very nice additionUI: doubtfulVerdict: we'll see :)
Fox, I owned a NX10 which was the first NX camera available few years ago. Its UI is, simply, the best I've ever seen on ANY camera.
eddie_cam: Wow, ISO 25600 on a sensor that barely is able to resolve much at ISO 1600 and above, compared to other APS-C sensors (look at the NX200/210 and NX1000 reviews).
I love how the pancakes look on the small bodies, but zoom/superzoom lenses? Nope ...
Eddie...you must be kidding as this Samsung sensor as simply the best base iso IQ until iso400 and is just about half or a little stop behind the Sony sensor at high iso in term of details...Don't misunderstand this sensor with the one which was inside the first NX10. It's a complete different story.
itsastickup: Totally hopeless bokeh test.
For me it's a deal-breaker: bad bokeh means unusable portraits.
Closing down the aperture can get rid of hard edged rings but also double-line 'nissen' bokeh which make for poor/disturbing bokeh as in the two pics (I would call this bokeh 'poor' and unusable). Typically I shoot f1.4 lenses at f2 for bokeh reasons. But in addition, you are more likely to get rings where the focus is at a distance and the blur moderate, as with these pics, while at close portrait distances the rings may not be so hard; which is the type of photos I am most interested in.
On top of that: a closed down aperture can be useful (one doesn;t always want obliteration-bokeh) but the bokeh can deteriorate.
So effectively we need a range of apertures and distance to know what the bokeh situation is.
Bokeh is so neglected that I have to do a lot of research to work out whether a lens is any good. It's a pain.
I agree with you !I too think the same with my Voigtlander 15mm F4.5The bokeh is too harsh for portrait with this wide lens so I think I will give it up.
marike6: Sony made a big gamble by dropping the OVF on all their cameras. A top level pentaprism OVF will always be the state-of-the-art, while in one or two years time, the A99 EVF will be old technology, superseded by new models. Just ask Fuji X-Pro1 users how they felt when the X-E1 came out with a higher specified EVF. So perhaps one of the negatives of adopting an evolving technology like EVF is an increased need to upgrade. Whereas a 100% OVF of a 5D3, D800 or A900 will always be about as good as it gets.
And don't forget:What will you do with a blind camera if your EVF fails ? At least with an OVF you limit an other risk of failures. I know mirrors problems can occur...but my 30 years old OM-10 and my 50 years old M3 mirrors tell me they are all fine. I won't bet on an EVF in 5 years...
EDWARD ARTISTE: The camera market is ridiculous.
Sony has long been a company with terrible support for its products. Yet its camera are dusting the competition who are scared to break beyond thier marketing approaches to camera.
This body sounds all kinds of awesome...well, except that its sony. I will never, ever buy another sony product save for their game console. Ive been crapped on too many times by this company. I used to swear by their XBR tvs.
Otherwise, their lack of glass selection is a shame- plenty of photogs should get to enjoy all this technology without having to be dismayed about what was carefully x'ed off the feature list (im looking at you idiots at canon)
however, if i hit the lotto, id be on this and a few zeis pieces like white on rice.
As Edward I have the same feeling regarding Sony.I won't buy anything from this brand again either due to bad experience with their products and after sales service.They make innovative and high performance products that's for sure. But their products, in my experience, are breaking too easily.