Mike FL: I have great respect to Leica's optical, but the FF sensor M9 is really noisy @ISO.1600 as seen from the DP sample. Again, do not forget it is from a FF sensor camera while you check the sample:
Any thought? Disagree?
I think you are wrong in comparing M9 sensor's performance with a Nikon D3s.First the Leica M9 has a CCD sensor which is not adapted for high iso performance. This is well known. 2nd, Nikon D3s was one of the best high iso performer at the time, it's well known too.And regarding the subject of this news...I think you are just trolling mate... :/
brulain: If I understand well, Leica's cameras are as good as the others, but are much more expensive. Finally, a very good choice.
Diego Sevilla: I just bought an M9. I sent it to leica to be adjusted and returned me the bill with an €800 payment because of this. The original owner has been kindly enough to allow me to return him the camera as-is, but this is not serious. The camera has a little bit more than 3 years so... oops, you have to pay.
I hope, for him, and for all M9/M-E owners, that this gets fixed at no cost. Still, they will be waiting for a new sensor FOR MONTHS. Now that it was a normal random procedure of sending the cameras to leica, when you noticed something, it has a waiting line of three months... Imagine when this goes widespread and more and more people want their sensors checked or changed... What a nightmare.
For me, the M9 is finished. I bought it, I'm passionate about photography and was saving for one, with great efforts. But now, I see that an A7/r/s is a FAR better option. Who can live with the uneasiness of buying a €3000+ piece of equipment that can broke any day?
I agree with you that this is quite border line for Leica M9 owners.I own Leica equipment (my only digital Leica is a M8) and what pushes me to buy Leica is mainly the lenses.I agree that body wise Leica is not so great...except for the rangefinder system which I really like.I am too looking more and more toward Sony A7 series as a good partner for my Leica lenses but it seems you lose A LOT of quality with moderate to ultrawide angle lenses on these bodies. And that kills the purpose of owning Leica lenses.To me...Leica lenses are best used on Leica bodies...but regarding the price and issues...as soon as their is a more viable options for a compatible body I'll switch to this brand.
You should do more write up about Leica products. What i enjoy the most about DPR is reading hot comments anytime there is a Leica news. In fact its even the only reason i come here as its so entertaining.
I had a motorbike accident 4 months ago in south korea. I was seriously enjured i staid at the hospital for almost two months after getting two surgeries for a bad fracture on my knee. It seems i will be able to put my leg on the floor in around a month. I cant wait since it has been 4 months that i live on one leg...I hope you wont have too much issue with your shoulder in the future...especially ligaments which can be a problem. Good recovery to you and...amazing pictures :)
utphoto: Amazing. The number of dismissive comments about 4K, especially the five to ten years before it will be here scenarios. First, it won't be even five years before it has a 30-50% penetration in to homes in the US. Within two years it will be the standard for virtually all sets 40" in size or larger except for entry level models. And these are not my guesstimates but from professional industry organizations.
The most important reason for 4K is that 1080 derived from a 4K master, even disregarding the cropping options, looks far better than 1080 shot natively. Serious video shooters are already shooting in 4K for archival purposes. As for 8K, don't hold your breath. 4K is the sweet spot for the consumer. 8K will be used primarily for commercial cinema production and presentation.
I remember people saying this for 3d tv's lol.
Carl Sanders: Not impressed with Nikon, would give it a miss if not essential!
Dont buy 4K cameras. They will be obsolete when 100K cameras hit the shelves pretty soon now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obsolete ! I said obsolete haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ugly word.
Zoron: 2014 is transition year to 4K, and this is the last chance for Nikon to milk money from 1080p, in 2016 when D900 is released with 4K.....D810 will be obsolete..
Depends how 4K is important to you. Just a new feature that will be usefull to video shooters and those few with a 4K HD screen.
nikon power: It's the lens that makes the camera. The article should be re-titled with"Third time's a charm: Carl Zeiss did it again!"And any any credit or praise to Sony should go to Carl Zeiss.
Sony owns Zeiss.
Never heard of geometry, shapes and composition guys ?These pictures are really good.
Before talking about isos people should learn what a correct exposure is. I shoot iso400 film hand held at night with no tripod on a 55 years old film camera. Look at my results on my gallery (just night examples of what I do, me who is just an amateur).
iso 400.000. Is it what you guys need ? Really ? Really ???
What a joke.
starwolfy: Nothing beats a leica summilux f1.4 asph.Cheaper than an Otus, way smaller and way lighter than both Otus and this Sigma lens. The only thing this Sigma has for it is better value per dollar and autofocus. Its a very good lens but I still cannot accept weight a size compromises you have to make to enter dslr world. The biggest joke is when u compare an Othus to the Leica Lux...it looks like a serious joke from size.
Since you love test charts I will prove you with test charts that you are wrong :)
Better sharpness across the entire frame ? LoLFar less distortion ? LoLVigneting ? LoL
Oh and wait...3 times lighter, E46, wayyyy smaller.
You reply to me with two charts? Just me laugh.
Nothing beats a leica summilux f1.4 asph.Cheaper than an Otus, way smaller and way lighter than both Otus and this Sigma lens. The only thing this Sigma has for it is better value per dollar and autofocus. Its a very good lens but I still cannot accept weight a size compromises you have to make to enter dslr world. The biggest joke is when u compare an Othus to the Leica Lux...it looks like a serious joke from size.
What is wrong if people want to donate to companies they like to make them develop products they want easier? If kodak had made a kickstarter to get donation and continue to developp some film I guess many would have donate.
halfwaythere: Am I the only surprised this is free?
A200Eric: How is that BS? If Walmart didn't exist where would these people be working? They must have scars from the guns that are being held to their heads to be forced to work there.
Until the pseudo Marxists like yourself finally kill what was the greatest country in the world, we still have freedom of personal choice. I just really don't understand what is so attractive about an all powerful centralized government making all of the choices for you. Forcing mediocrity for all and punishing hard work and success. I want to live where anyone and everyone has the opportunity to be successful regardless of how they define it. That however is all but dead and it's not because of Walmart or the Koch brothers.
Wasn it France, the greatest country in the world ?
chiane: Why are all DPR members liberal Marxists who can't even comment about the actual case without some diatribe about wealth redistribution and workers rights, and blah, blah, blah? When someone asks for your opinion on creating a socialist Utopia, we'll let you know at that time.
This is starting to be annoying these people who see nazi's everywhere.
starwolfy: Camera Brand Representatives have to be really carefull these days when they make a presentation of one of their product. A single word (or english mistake by a non english native speaker?) could ruin an entire company's image when some gear heads jump on any occasion to make a big buzz.
We still don't know from whom, and when, or at what event DPR heard this "LIE". We did not see any proof yet showing they Leica really said so. No video. No Press release. No documentation where this LIE is reported.
This "lie" is obviously not used as part of Leica's marketing strategy for advertising their new T lenses so why blame the company so harshly?
I feel DPR was kind of overdoing it on this supposedly lie by Leica.
It's good we know that Leica is correcting their new lenses. And we sure don't want to see this tendency to take such proportions for M lenses for example. But I cannot stop thinking DPR was a bit dishonnest in the way they chosed to present the facts.
Actually i didn't read DPR for months. I came here because I wanted to read some news on this new Leica T and found this stupid news. DPR is still what it always was, a groupment of angry kids who talk about spec sheets and isos instead of pictures. Not a big miss and not too long before I leave the place again :) 3-2-1...
Camera Brand Representatives have to be really carefull these days when they make a presentation of one of their product. A single word (or english mistake by a non english native speaker?) could ruin an entire company's image when some gear heads jump on any occasion to make a big buzz.