uhoh07: The nasty comments in this thread belie belief. Clueless does not even begin to cover the gamut of Leica critique in so many of the "thoughts" below.
I have to wonder what depths are plumbed to dredge up this degree of mindless hatred.
In fact, for many shooters, the M9 today, with M glass, creates output second to none. Most of us who own the M9 are not rich. We forgo other expenses to afford the M9, which actually costs little more than a 5D today. I paid 3500 for an M9 with a fresh sensor.
No question it's a bummer the M9 sensor is susceptible to corrosion issues. It was the first FF sensor to allow strong edge performance with the superb M wides. Fantastic output, flawed design. Leica is not perfect.
For whatever reason, Leica's response has been to guarantee the sensor for life.
For those of us who love the camera this is a big relief. For those that don't, why do you care?
Why I like the camera:https://www.flickr.com/photos/55299472@N07/
I agree !
Jim Evidon: Found this morning on the Leica website:
Additionally, I have seen a letter address to the Leica Users Forum(http://www.l-camera-forum.com) from Leica Product Management extendingsensor replacements to those already replaced that may have recurring corrosion as well as a refund to those customers who paid for replacement in the past.
I suspect that those of you who speculate that Leica will leave their customers in the lurch have been stung by past behavior of other camera companies; more likely those considered the big four. I have yet to see any such comments from people who actually own Leica manufactured cameras.
But I do expect to see continuing back biting by those who have nothing better to do than vent your spleen without any first hand knowledge of the subject you seem to hate . So pour it on if it makes you feel important.
Nunatak...I hear you !I can still make the difference between an empty gallery and a one full of pictures. But it certainly has to do with my IR contaminated photos isn' it ? ;-)
I own a M8 for several years. Still have it and use it daily...without IR filter. I didn't know my M8 has a "defective" sensor...lol.True I have an IR filter available if necessary...but I do use UV filter on all my lenses anyway...so...lol ?
RStyga: That serves them right, they needed that bit of humility, arrogant dinosaurs... I'm happy to hear, now, all those Leica fanatics telling me how superior Leica cameras are in terms of build quality, once more...
RStyga...what you wrote is too hilarious lol.I'm sure Leica users are feeling better now that you spread the plain saint "truth" about Leica on internet. Hahaha !
Mike FL: I have great respect to Leica's optical, but the FF sensor M9 is really noisy @ISO.1600 as seen from the DP sample. Again, do not forget it is from a FF sensor camera while you check the sample:
Any thought? Disagree?
I think you are wrong in comparing M9 sensor's performance with a Nikon D3s.First the Leica M9 has a CCD sensor which is not adapted for high iso performance. This is well known. 2nd, Nikon D3s was one of the best high iso performer at the time, it's well known too.And regarding the subject of this news...I think you are just trolling mate... :/
brulain: If I understand well, Leica's cameras are as good as the others, but are much more expensive. Finally, a very good choice.
Diego Sevilla: I just bought an M9. I sent it to leica to be adjusted and returned me the bill with an €800 payment because of this. The original owner has been kindly enough to allow me to return him the camera as-is, but this is not serious. The camera has a little bit more than 3 years so... oops, you have to pay.
I hope, for him, and for all M9/M-E owners, that this gets fixed at no cost. Still, they will be waiting for a new sensor FOR MONTHS. Now that it was a normal random procedure of sending the cameras to leica, when you noticed something, it has a waiting line of three months... Imagine when this goes widespread and more and more people want their sensors checked or changed... What a nightmare.
For me, the M9 is finished. I bought it, I'm passionate about photography and was saving for one, with great efforts. But now, I see that an A7/r/s is a FAR better option. Who can live with the uneasiness of buying a €3000+ piece of equipment that can broke any day?
I agree with you that this is quite border line for Leica M9 owners.I own Leica equipment (my only digital Leica is a M8) and what pushes me to buy Leica is mainly the lenses.I agree that body wise Leica is not so great...except for the rangefinder system which I really like.I am too looking more and more toward Sony A7 series as a good partner for my Leica lenses but it seems you lose A LOT of quality with moderate to ultrawide angle lenses on these bodies. And that kills the purpose of owning Leica lenses.To me...Leica lenses are best used on Leica bodies...but regarding the price and issues...as soon as their is a more viable options for a compatible body I'll switch to this brand.
You should do more write up about Leica products. What i enjoy the most about DPR is reading hot comments anytime there is a Leica news. In fact its even the only reason i come here as its so entertaining.
I had a motorbike accident 4 months ago in south korea. I was seriously enjured i staid at the hospital for almost two months after getting two surgeries for a bad fracture on my knee. It seems i will be able to put my leg on the floor in around a month. I cant wait since it has been 4 months that i live on one leg...I hope you wont have too much issue with your shoulder in the future...especially ligaments which can be a problem. Good recovery to you and...amazing pictures :)
utphoto: Amazing. The number of dismissive comments about 4K, especially the five to ten years before it will be here scenarios. First, it won't be even five years before it has a 30-50% penetration in to homes in the US. Within two years it will be the standard for virtually all sets 40" in size or larger except for entry level models. And these are not my guesstimates but from professional industry organizations.
The most important reason for 4K is that 1080 derived from a 4K master, even disregarding the cropping options, looks far better than 1080 shot natively. Serious video shooters are already shooting in 4K for archival purposes. As for 8K, don't hold your breath. 4K is the sweet spot for the consumer. 8K will be used primarily for commercial cinema production and presentation.
I remember people saying this for 3d tv's lol.
Carl Sanders: Not impressed with Nikon, would give it a miss if not essential!
Dont buy 4K cameras. They will be obsolete when 100K cameras hit the shelves pretty soon now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obsolete ! I said obsolete haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ugly word.
Zoron: 2014 is transition year to 4K, and this is the last chance for Nikon to milk money from 1080p, in 2016 when D900 is released with 4K.....D810 will be obsolete..
Depends how 4K is important to you. Just a new feature that will be usefull to video shooters and those few with a 4K HD screen.
nikon power: It's the lens that makes the camera. The article should be re-titled with"Third time's a charm: Carl Zeiss did it again!"And any any credit or praise to Sony should go to Carl Zeiss.
Sony owns Zeiss.
Never heard of geometry, shapes and composition guys ?These pictures are really good.
Before talking about isos people should learn what a correct exposure is. I shoot iso400 film hand held at night with no tripod on a 55 years old film camera. Look at my results on my gallery (just night examples of what I do, me who is just an amateur).
iso 400.000. Is it what you guys need ? Really ? Really ???
What a joke.
starwolfy: Nothing beats a leica summilux f1.4 asph.Cheaper than an Otus, way smaller and way lighter than both Otus and this Sigma lens. The only thing this Sigma has for it is better value per dollar and autofocus. Its a very good lens but I still cannot accept weight a size compromises you have to make to enter dslr world. The biggest joke is when u compare an Othus to the Leica Lux...it looks like a serious joke from size.
Since you love test charts I will prove you with test charts that you are wrong :)
Better sharpness across the entire frame ? LoLFar less distortion ? LoLVigneting ? LoL
Oh and wait...3 times lighter, E46, wayyyy smaller.
You reply to me with two charts? Just me laugh.
Nothing beats a leica summilux f1.4 asph.Cheaper than an Otus, way smaller and way lighter than both Otus and this Sigma lens. The only thing this Sigma has for it is better value per dollar and autofocus. Its a very good lens but I still cannot accept weight a size compromises you have to make to enter dslr world. The biggest joke is when u compare an Othus to the Leica Lux...it looks like a serious joke from size.
What is wrong if people want to donate to companies they like to make them develop products they want easier? If kodak had made a kickstarter to get donation and continue to developp some film I guess many would have donate.
halfwaythere: Am I the only surprised this is free?