Peiasdf: How is the removable battery a boon to the environment? It promotes copious consumption. People will be multiple back-up battery and never use them. When the phone is outdated all will be throw out. It is not like you can drop in a S3 battery into S4 or S4 into S5.
Integrated battery last longer because it is less affected by the environment and never really discharged. They are also more likely to be recycled with the phone than just sit in a drawer somewhere.
With replaceble batteries the phone will not be outdated. I use a phone at least for 5-6 years.
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Posted on Apr 27, 2013 at 15:41:55 UTC
marcio_napoli: Just a couple of days ago, I suggested that a f1.8 zoom should exist in M4/3 format, and should be completely doable, given its smaller sensor size.
The replies I've got: "are you a lens designer??" and all sort of disbeliefs.
Last time I suggested in DPreview forums a f2.0 APS zoom, I got the same replies: "it would be impossible. Too bulky, weight tons, cost a house, etc".
I'm not a lens designer, but Sigma is, and Sigma just proved how wrong these forums experts are.
There it is, the f1.8 zoom.
As far as I see it, it doesn't weight a ton. Oh wait, 810 grams? A girl can hold it all day long.
Yes... we're seeing impossible things.
>> 810 grams? A girl can hold it all day long.
try once
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Posted on Apr 18, 2013 at 10:49:43 UTC
Krich13: Well, let me guess... A full-frame 25-50 f/2.8 lens with a built-in Metabones-style telecompressor (aka speed booster)? I know, the Metabones design only works without a mirror box. They seem to have modified this idea to accomodate a short mirror of an APS-C. These three rer elements do look suspiciously like a focusing group behind the main lens.
MTF looks great (again, just like the speed booster), and that again could be the effect of compression. BTW, at what spatial frequencies is it measured? For cropped sensor (x1.5) I would expect 15 and 45 cycles/mm. If 10/30 cycles/mm is used -- that's cheating.
There is no reason to think of the FF it's not a reference. It simply a design for APS-C with a given characteristics. The question is only the size/weight/price/market. For stills I think it will be more economical to buy 2 primes than this but for filmmakers this is really revolutional.
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Posted on Apr 18, 2013 at 07:09:08 UTC
macjonny1: I went out on my back patio, laid on the ground, and took a photo of my kid's bigwheel. Put a bleach bypass filter effect using ColoEfex pro, and looks just like this. Even took it in front of my neighbor's rancher for effect. Granted the bigwheel is plastic but looks the same to me!
Try to paint a Mona Lisa. Should not be too difficult.
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Posted on Apr 9, 2013 at 18:55:53 UTC
averagjoe: It's obvious that the guy is an adventurer/daredevil, and not a photographer. He deserves kudos for pulling off the stunt, but he'd get a better reception from photographers if his image quality matched his bravado.
Should anyone impress them? (i.e. the photographers)
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Posted on Apr 6, 2013 at 17:24:21 UTC
Don't worry Sobel. Dye transfer print is a very expensive labor intensive process not comparable to the scanning/PSing/inkjetting. It gives also fairly long lasting colors probably it will survive some 100ys. Your investment is not endangered.
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Posted on Apr 6, 2013 at 08:20:08 UTC
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tkbslc: Just last week, my 83 year old grandma had a very old computer die and wanted me to see if I could get her journals off of it. I pulled out the old standard HDD and she says, "wow, all my files are on that tiny thing!". Made me chuckle at the irony seeing this new fast 64GB microSD card that surely would have blown her mind. :)
You need to teach her to make backups on some indipendent media. HDDs may also die:)
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Posted on Mar 30, 2013 at 06:50:33 UTC
64GB is pretty common already even for microSDXC. E.g. : Samsung MB-MGCGBEU Class 10 microSDXC Pro 64GB (UHS-1, Grad 1) is only 50-60 EUR; read: 70MB/s, write: up to 20MB/s.
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Posted on Mar 29, 2013 at 15:08:17 UTC
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Hi, I've just got it yesterday. The first shock was that the box DIDN'T contain the external charger only a USB charger. However the camera didn't charge the battery through the USB at all. Today I wanted to send it back but fortunately the additional charger with 2 batteries (neither orig.) came at 12h (I ordered them on last Sunday on the ebay) and ultimately I was able to try it out.
I don't know whether this is a new policy of Pana that they send a useless configuration?
However the AVCHD files are not difficult to find. They are at the normal place: PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV/STREAM/ directory.
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Posted on Mar 29, 2013 at 14:25:00 UTC
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TLD: I loved the blog pictures, but the shots from the top of the Moscow crane will give me bad dreams tonight. Good luck to their rule breaking image taking strategy.
You mean this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=mozYoPICQJE
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Posted on Mar 27, 2013 at 14:42:22 UTC
petepictures: That's quite a but overstatement. Olympus had smaller bodies for years.
>>I use both APS-C and m4/3. With the same aperture, same focus distance, and same framing, my APS-C cameras give better DOF control than my m4/3. << This is obvious. Use bigger aperture with the m43 for the same DOF.
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Posted on Mar 27, 2013 at 06:17:02 UTC
the reason: Autofocus at f8, in 2013...
>> It's no longer an appliance that just works, like a vacuum...
Evidently. What's the problem?
SalmanH: Panasonic seems to be trying very hard to produce increasingly ugly cameras...
nicer then a retro dino
Peiasdf: How is the removable battery a boon to the environment? It promotes copious consumption. People will be multiple back-up battery and never use them. When the phone is outdated all will be throw out. It is not like you can drop in a S3 battery into S4 or S4 into S5.
Integrated battery last longer because it is less affected by the environment and never really discharged. They are also more likely to be recycled with the phone than just sit in a drawer somewhere.
With replaceble batteries the phone will not be outdated. I use a phone at least for 5-6 years.
dpLarry: The Samsung phone is so so.
Who cares if it's easily repairable?
most important feature. I hate to go to the service center
Anepo: Anyone else here that hates phone manufacturers calling the led LIGHT "led flash" ?
no
Simply put it on your FF body and crop the middle rectangle or interpret it as a vignette effect :)
marcio_napoli: Just a couple of days ago, I suggested that a f1.8 zoom should exist in M4/3 format, and should be completely doable, given its smaller sensor size.
The replies I've got: "are you a lens designer??" and all sort of disbeliefs.
Last time I suggested in DPreview forums a f2.0 APS zoom, I got the same replies: "it would be impossible. Too bulky, weight tons, cost a house, etc".
I'm not a lens designer, but Sigma is, and Sigma just proved how wrong these forums experts are.
There it is, the f1.8 zoom.
As far as I see it, it doesn't weight a ton. Oh wait, 810 grams? A girl can hold it all day long.
Yes... we're seeing impossible things.
>> 810 grams? A girl can hold it all day long.
try once
Krich13: Well, let me guess... A full-frame 25-50 f/2.8 lens with a built-in Metabones-style telecompressor (aka speed booster)?
I know, the Metabones design only works without a mirror box. They seem to have modified this idea to accomodate a short mirror of an APS-C. These three rer elements do look suspiciously like a focusing group behind the main lens.
MTF looks great (again, just like the speed booster), and that again could be the effect of compression. BTW, at what spatial frequencies is it measured? For cropped sensor (x1.5) I would expect 15 and 45 cycles/mm. If 10/30 cycles/mm is used -- that's cheating.
There is no reason to think of the FF it's not a reference. It simply a design for APS-C with a given characteristics. The question is only the size/weight/price/market. For stills I think it will be more economical to buy 2 primes than this but for filmmakers this is really revolutional.
Pretty boring pics. However he could try to make a collage of them.
macjonny1: I went out on my back patio, laid on the ground, and took a photo of my kid's bigwheel. Put a bleach bypass filter effect using ColoEfex pro, and looks just like this. Even took it in front of my neighbor's rancher for effect. Granted the bigwheel is plastic but looks the same to me!
Try to paint a Mona Lisa. Should not be too difficult.
averagjoe: It's obvious that the guy is an adventurer/daredevil, and not a photographer.
He deserves kudos for pulling off the stunt, but he'd get a better reception from photographers if his image quality matched his bravado.
Should anyone impress them? (i.e. the photographers)
Don't worry Sobel.
Dye transfer print is a very expensive labor intensive process not comparable to the scanning/PSing/inkjetting. It gives also fairly long lasting colors probably it will survive some 100ys.
Your investment is not endangered.
tkbslc: Just last week, my 83 year old grandma had a very old computer die and wanted me to see if I could get her journals off of it. I pulled out the old standard HDD and she says, "wow, all my files are on that tiny thing!". Made me chuckle at the irony seeing this new fast 64GB microSD card that surely would have blown her mind. :)
You need to teach her to make backups on some indipendent media. HDDs may also die:)
64GB is pretty common already even for microSDXC.
E.g. : Samsung MB-MGCGBEU Class 10 microSDXC Pro 64GB (UHS-1, Grad 1) is only 50-60 EUR; read: 70MB/s, write: up to 20MB/s.
Hi, I've just got it yesterday. The first shock was that the box DIDN'T contain the external charger only a USB charger. However the camera didn't charge the battery through the USB at all. Today I wanted to send it back but fortunately the additional charger with 2 batteries (neither orig.) came at 12h (I ordered them on last Sunday on the ebay) and ultimately I was able to try it out.
I don't know whether this is a new policy of Pana that they send a useless configuration?
However the AVCHD files are not difficult to find. They are at the normal place:
PRIVATE/AVCHD/BDMV/STREAM/ directory.
TLD: I loved the blog pictures, but the shots from the top of the Moscow crane will give me bad dreams tonight. Good luck to their rule breaking image taking strategy.
You mean this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mozYoPICQJE
Alizarine: Photos are nice
breaking the laws of another country as a tourist isn't.
Too bad today's rebels are tomorrow's gods. :(
These laws are not carved in stone. They are made to deter uneducated tourists.
These guys are heroes. They made fantastic photos. I hope they will make a lot of similar projects.
petepictures: That's quite a but overstatement. Olympus had smaller bodies for years.
>>I use both APS-C and m4/3. With the same aperture, same focus distance, and same framing, my APS-C cameras give better DOF control than my m4/3. <<
This is obvious.
Use bigger aperture with the m43 for the same DOF.
for the perfectionists:
http://youtu.be/cUGewBdAy8c?t=5m10s