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mandophoto
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JDThomas: Cool, now iPhoneys can start calling themselves "strobists" too.
So, the very many iPhoneys who are also Nikon users now know to never disturb your hubris towards them by buying a JD Thomas publication. You got it.
scrup: If Canon really wanted to stop Magic Lantern, they could. But in their interest they don't as it creates another market of users.
Take Apple Iphone. If Jailbreak never existed for it, I don't think it would of taken market share as it did.
Playstation 1. It didn't really take off until it was hacked.
Hey Juck, you're a funny guy. :-) Rotflmao.
scrup: If Canon really wanted to stop Magic Lantern, they could. But in their interest they don't as it creates another market of users.
Take Apple Iphone. If Jailbreak never existed for it, I don't think it would of taken market share as it did.
Playstation 1. It didn't really take off until it was hacked.
You're wrong about the iPhone. It is a consumer product and as such 99% of users have no need for the hacks. I'm guessing the same applies to most smartphones.
mandophoto: The Leica S is one beautiful camera.
Yep, ideas of beauty do differ.
The Leica S is one beautiful camera.
Mssimo: Did he really say that he expected negative reactions from photographers but did not care? That is how I understood his response.
No, he specifically said "hobbyist photography community." The photography community is not monolithic. It is clear CC is for pros and enthusiasts willing to pay. But what I found very interesting is his suggestion that there will be a "regular" Lightroom and a "pro" CC based Lightroom. That is a bit disheartening.
Zvonimir Tosic: Only issue here that prevents some people from switching is press and pre-press work. What software apart from Photoshop handles CMYK and LAB colourspaces well, or, at all? :-(
@PerL - There is a color shift when going from RGB to CMYK. Most graphic designers will convert RGB files to CMYK in Photoshop to check for color shift. I know RGB files placed in InDesign will be converted to CMYK at some point in the pre-press flow, but if color fidelity is important, then using RGB is a gamble. There is no alternative to Photoshop in the commercial print medium.
For graphic designers working in print media there are no alternatives to Photoshop and Illustrator. As for GIMP, last I checked it does not have a CMYK work space. For page layout QuarkXpress is still around and is quite good but it is also very expensive. So most graphic professionals will pass the cloud based cost to customers, and cross their fingers.
As for Lightroom, Adobe knows there are true alternatives. Still, considering it is now bundled with some Samsung and other cameras, Lightroom may gain such a huge share that it will become (like Photoshop) the de facto raw converter which will give Adobe a lot of muscle.
Wonderful images and a great story. Thank you, DPReview.
Maybe it's me but it seems we don't see quite as much photography of teens as in the '60s & '70s. Can someone point out the Bruce Davidsons & Mary Ellen Marks of the current generation? Yes, I would like to know (other than Mike Brodie.)
facedodge: These are all great tips if you want to be like William Klein... I think the real lesson of William Klein is to not try and be William Klein. I think Eric missed this point.
Number three is "go against the grain". I don't think William cared which way the grain went. He went his way and that was that. Following Eric's advise on to go against the grain precludes needing to know which way is with and which way is against.
Find your vision and have the courage to develop it regardless of direction of grain. William Klein did so and we can too.
Sorry, I got a bit ruffled. William Klein is a favorite photog and it was great having Eric Kim write about him. To be honest, I do a fair share of cliches and don't mind it. :-)
facedodge: These are all great tips if you want to be like William Klein... I think the real lesson of William Klein is to not try and be William Klein. I think Eric missed this point.
Number three is "go against the grain". I don't think William cared which way the grain went. He went his way and that was that. Following Eric's advise on to go against the grain precludes needing to know which way is with and which way is against.
Find your vision and have the courage to develop it regardless of direction of grain. William Klein did so and we can too.
& yours, inframan, is... well, this could on. William Klein is one of the best, and Eric Kim's article is instructive for photographers wanting to get past the tired cliches of photography. But then there are those who are content doing just that, don't you agree inframan?
facedodge: These are all great tips if you want to be like William Klein... I think the real lesson of William Klein is to not try and be William Klein. I think Eric missed this point.
Number three is "go against the grain". I don't think William cared which way the grain went. He went his way and that was that. Following Eric's advise on to go against the grain precludes needing to know which way is with and which way is against.
Find your vision and have the courage to develop it regardless of direction of grain. William Klein did so and we can too.
facedodge, that is a white bread answer.
It's the times we live in: A cross between invasive Google and gaudy Warhol. Interesting but wonder if it will go beyond 15 minutes. And yes, DPReview is absolutely right in assuming it is of interest to photographers, because it is indeed photography.
simon65: Join the army instead...
This device isn't for photographers, it's for self obsessed hipsters bedevilled by the twin ills of a surfeit of free time and a lack of purpose in their lives.
People considering buying this product should go out and do something meaningful, such as join the army instead.
The Swedish army for example.
Sweden being the home of Memoto and of Martin Kallstrom knows all about vacant idle hipsters pretending to be artists. So much so that the Swedish army has made an recruitment ad aimed directly at them.
I advise all those tempted by this device to view it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3h_sOPUWc8
Hilarious. Though I'm too old for service, somehow I see myself there. Not taking oneself too seriously is a good thing.
Thanks.
It is immutable. The "experts" speak (see comments below and probably above.)
I'm 60 and won't begrudge younger photographers getting attention. There may be better or not, but what matters is young people are doing great work and some are being recognized. Recognition helps everyone, but it is also ephemeral. Let's hope these photographers keep working to bring us good photography.
Doug Frost: I don't care what your job is, whether you're a photojournalist, a truck driver or a housewife. If someone is being harmed by another and you're in a position to do something about it, you do something about it. I'm not saying that she should have physically intervened, but she could at least have called the police. She could have acted as a moral human being instead of some artiste jerk with a camera whose only interest was fetishizing an act of criminal violence. She crossed a line and betrayed her basic humanity.
Doug Frost, you are wrong and you need to read the whole post. First off, the police had already been called by the time the guy became physical. Second, many women will see these images and recognize themselves in the victim. Understanding that domestic violence is not unique to their situation is a big step in knowing there is help. Your view point completely ignores the victim's side. Furthermore, the police agreed with the photographer's decisions. It is surprising how many posters(men) here are attacking the female photographer without once considering her resolve in doing real photojournalism rather than innocuous and benign sunset, flower, baby, etc., photography, which most of us guys do.
This is not the first nor hopefully last time a courageous photographer reveals truth within Paradise. For those here who believe this kind of photography is inappropriate for the public, be aware that hiding the truth is akin to enabling violence. The courageous young woman (victim,) in approving the publication of these photographs is doing for women and children (the victims of most violence) what too many in our society can't: tell the truth.
luxborealis: Crap like this happens ALL THE TIME. Photographs are acclaimed more for a cutsey or gritty title or the backstory of the image or the backstory of the photographer rather than the image, itself. Vivian Maier comes to mind. Her recently found photographs were acclaimed all over the world yet didn't amount to anything terribly original if you took away the backstory. So, once again, is it the art or the story?
Be that as it may, photography is only following what has been done forever with all other media. Painters have been doing set-ups for centuries.
You see, we are victims of our own delusions in that we still believe photographs are real when they are nothing more than constructs of the artists mind. What we need to do is to STOP BELIEVING PHOTOGRAPHS ARE REAL in the first place!!!!!
@luxborealis: In regards to Vivian Maier, it is you who is wrong.
In addition to documenting, Paolo Pellegrin editorialized. He inserted his personal feelings regarding guns and violence but passed it, or tried to, as journalism.
mandophoto: DPREVIEW, the D5200 raw zip file download does not seem to contain the test image.
Yes, thank you.