mosc: I still think there's a market for this sensor if it were attached to the right lens, like 20-300 f2.8 and made more pocket friendly. The EVF and flash hump don't slide well into the pocket. Give it a rangefinder style side EVF, ditch the hump, and design with pocket in mind. Nothing like that is going to fit in your pocket with any larger a sensor. f2.8 1/1.7" is good enough for outdoor use in shadow if it's a BSI chip. I think you can sell 1/1.7" for $700 but you have to be just about perfect every other way.
Last I checked the RX100 III was pocketable. I like the Stylus 1s, but think it should be a bit cheaper.
Looks good in black. Not so sure about green. Not that it isn't a nice, tasteful green, but still...
Alexis D: Thank you Nikon for these "1" cameras. Big sigh of relief for Olympus, Panasonic, Sony and Fuji each time Canikon release their sub par mirrorless cameras. These small makers are given more time to establish a stronger base and better chance of survival. Viva la competition, et aussi la diversité!
I love having USB charging as an option. Third-party chargers can typically be had for a few dollars, though it would be nice to include one. Get one and you have the best of both worlds. You can even charge two batteries simultaneously overnight if you have access to USB, which you probably do if you travel with a laptop.
MicekyVee: Quote: We were disappointed we couldn't directly set exposure compensation changes to one of the command dials - a feature found on Nikon DSLRs.
Umm. Set Fn2 to Exposure Compensation.. press on the rear control dial bring it up and turn to adjust.. press again and done. Couldn't be simpler.
I'm probably the only owner of the two most bashed cameras on DPReview.. the Nikon V3 and the Canon G1X MkII. Nikon for daylight and lens selection.. have the trifecta 6.7-13VR, 10-100VR and 70-300VR and the Canon for low light and when I need flash.From an handling POV and my uses (rarely print large), I'm not missing my DSLRs at all. For me, it's fit for purpose with some niggles mostly with the flash system. YMMV.
True, but what he's noting is that the rear dial also presses in. That's Fn2. So you don't have to move your thumb at all. Just click in on the dial, turn it one way or the other, and click again to return the dial to its primary function. It's not quite as simple as assigning the function to the dial as its primary function for that mode, and it does use the Fn2 button, but it is quite easy and only uses one dial and its built-in button.
It's getting there. I have a V1, which has its strengths, but even more annoyances, especially the pathetic controls. Thr V3 controls look excellent, as good as any other mirrorless model of similar price, and better than the cheaper dslrs. Twin control dials (real ones, plus the scroll wheel) several function buttons, a flip up touchscreen, and a well designed menu system. And WiFi, this year"s toy. All very nice. The zippy AF system and burst apeed have always been a joy, as has the video, though it is rarely mentioned. What other camera lets you take full res stills while shooting video (wothout interruption).
What it needs are returning the evf to the body, figuring out how to add a hot shoe, even if it means canning the accessory port, and most of all, a sensor with more dynamic range. Aptina has a lot of amazing technology in development. Is it too much to ask for a competitive sensor for still images.
plantdoc: Living in the photo mecca of San Francisco, I was disappointed with Calumet. I expected a well stocked, B&H type store. However, the store always seemed very light on merchandise but with plenty of space. I expect this is the handwriting on the wall for all brick and mortar stores. Even my clothing and shoes must be ordered online because I have special needs and no one stocks anything suitable.Change always happens...good or bad... time will tell I suppose. Now it's order, wait for shipping, and hope you get what you want deliver safely. Greg
Or go to the newish Samy's South of Market. I also found Calumet disappointing on several visits in recent years. Not being a pro, they had no interest in me. The staff preferred to stand around and gossip instead of finding out what I needed. I've only been to Samy's a couple of times, but they were both friendlier and more helpful.
Richard Murdey: On lenses:
The 32/1.2 is a oddity, its a cost-no-object lens for a sensor format that is deeply compromised. However if you are fully invested in Nikon 1 and insist on that level of compactness, it is a fantastic thing.
There's the cheap and perfectly serviceable 10 mm and 18.5 mm primes, various standard kit zooms, an extremely good 30-110 telephoto zoom, an ultrawide zoom, two superzooms, and now a, what, an ultra-tele-zoom?
Most of these lenses are absolutely tiny for their effective FOV, and most are very cheap as well. That's the promise of the CX format delivered: You can take an FX dSLR and one lens out of your bag, and stick a Nikon 1 camera, 3-4 lenses, mini tripod, flash, and wireless remote in the same space.
The 30-110mm is an excellent lens that in no way resembles the lackluster 10-30mm. They have nothing in common. What's remarkable is that the very sharp 30-110mm has often been available in two-lens kits for all of $100. This is a very nicely made lens, as are the others, with very solid construction and metal mounts. The 18.5mm f/1.8 is a good standard prime, and the wa zoom is a honey. Yeah, it isn't fast, but it's adequate for that sort of lens, and it is optically excellent. I wish there were some more fast lenses in the lineup, but they seem to be emphasizing size and price (the only really expensive lenses being specialty items that will sell in small numbers.) The mainstream lenses are all quite reasonable.
Jogger: How do the micolenses work on this set-up?? Wont the micro lenses be really wonky? Rectangular lenses?
BSI sensors still benefit from microlenses. A significant portion of the sensor's area is still occupied by circuitry, but flipping the sensor over means the circuitry isn't on top of the detector layer, where it reflects/absorbs some of the light. In a BSI sensor the light has to pass through a thin layer of silicon only.
tinternaut: Does it come with the E-M1's PDAF?
I suspect it would have added quite a bit to the cost. This is the bargain camera in the OM-D line. If there is a next-generation E-M5 coming, I'd be expecting it it to have the on-sensor PDAF as one of the features to differentiate it from the E-M10. Along with the 5-way IBIS, and maybe a 24mp sensor (and weatherproofing, natch) . That would be my wish list, all very achievable. Oh, and have the power zoom as the 'standard' zoom, with the other choice being an improved weatherproof zoom to replace the underwhelming 12-50.
Tripeiro: In Norway the EM5 with the 12-50 will only cost 200NOK (25€) more than the EM10 with the new kit lens. Yes, the EM5 is at the end of its cycle, but the EM10 is pretty much just a downgraded EM5. Unless you really need Wifi or a built-in flash, I find it hard to justify to buy the EM10 over the superior EM5. Weird price policy from Olympus, at least in Norway.
You give up weatherproofing that few rely on, a little-used accessory port, and ibis that is only slightly better. You get the convenient, if low-power built-in flash, a rear screen that is both slightly higher res and also brighter, a newer generation of processor that should speed up most operations at least a bit, and a very good WiFi implementation. All of that in a smaller body. For those of us who don't subject our gear to harsh weather, the E-M5 has not much to offer over the new camera. The fancier IBIS is fairly irrelevant except for hand-held shots at short distances, and then only for longer exposures. And even for those shots it is only a little better, not magic.
sean lee: Hi, Guys. I have a question. I am not professional photographer. Just like to take pictures.
Now I am using Canon t2i with EF 50mm F1.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 and Sigma 10-20mm. I am satisfying with their IQ but I want to have little smaller body in retro style. I was waiting if canon announce retro style SLR so I can keep the lenses I have now, but I don't think canon will announce and I am tire to keep waiting.
If I switch to Olympus E-M10 or Panasonic GM1, am I down grade or up grade? or just same grade in IQ? Thank you,
Modern CDAF autofocus in strong light for single shots is excellent, very fast and accurate in modern mirrorless cameras. What it isn't good at is tracking moving objects because it doesn't k ow whether they are closer or further, so it has to hunt until it finds the subject again. If it's moving fast it probably won't. They're also not great in low light because CDAF relies on contrast to determine sharpness (and thus focus). As light levels drop CDAF autofocus systems slow down, have to hunt more, and eventually may be unable to, confirm focus. Low contrast subjects are worst for this (unfoetunately that can include faces).
Anyhow, if you do most of your shooting in strong light and don't expect tracking of moving objects, there's a lot to like about the AF pwrformance of these cameras.
Beat Traveller: That's a damn good price for a mirrorless camera with an EVF, stabilisation and a small-form body. I like where the market is going.
Panasonic prices usually drop quite a long ways during the product lifecycle, with Olympus prices staying near list for most of their product lives. The G6 prices have been holding up better than many other Panasonic models (possibly because it is basically quite nice), but I expect this to drive them down. The G5 was down to $500 well before it was replaced. While their current prices may look them look like direct competitors, they are only in their positions within each maker's lineup. This should also drive down the price on the E-P5. I'd have a very hard time buying one of those over an E-M10. Even with an evf it is quite small, and certainly much more shapely than the E-M5. This is the first of the Olympus MFT cameras to seem like a bargain at list price. Very attractive, but I do wish they'd offer that tiny power zoom as an alternative kit lens. That would be a great travel combo (though I like the zoom range of the Sony 16-50 better).
JDThomas: "JK doesn't have a booth at the show, but we visited them in a hotel suite..."
Pssst. Hey kid, wanna see some top quality camera gear? Meet me in the back alley behind the Rio Hotel. I'll cut you in on a good deal.
If it's reverse engineered, it was done in record time. No, I don't think that happened. What more likely is they heard such a product was being developed and decided to build a competitor. That's a long ways from reverse engineering.
gerard boulanger: To really penetrate the market, a more reasonable zoom (28-60) with good IQ, not too much noise until ISO 1600 and a 1/4000th shutter speed would be needed.Those extreme zooms will be perceived as gadgets very quickly
Having said that, I like the concept.
Patent infringement from Kodak here? Sony QX...
No, I think this lens is perfect for this camera. It covers the most useful focal lengths without swapping. Starting wider is a very good thing that is starting to become common (probably because of Sony's compact 16-50mm kit lens) The slowness at the long end is a bit of a worry, but I guess I'd rather have the extra length, even if it is slow. The telezoom also looks rather nice. I wonder who is making the lenses for them (unlikely they're doing it themselves) because they don't closely resemble any existing MFT lenses. My guess is Olympus, which would be a good thing for both companies. But it could be almost anyone.
JDThomas: The most interesting thing about this announcement is the collapsible kit lens. Nikon is taking a page from the Leica book with this.
I'd like to see this feature on a higher end FX lens like a collapsible 16-35 f/4.
Maybe Leica originated the idea, but Nikon has no need to copy anyone for this lenses. The Nikon 1 zooms are collapsible (not just the standard zoom, but also thw tele and wide angle zooms.) The release button even looks similar.
Jacques Cornell: Note to DPR - The slideshow stops at slide 8: everything after that just jumps to a page on the Sony Store. Bleah!
Yup, still doing it on Chrome to me. The entire lower part of the page, incuding the area where the navigation buttons are, sends me to the Sony store. I got around it by editing rhe URL, but it would be nice if it were fixed. I suspect it's something at your end as Chrome is othwrwise behaving correctly.
expressivecanvas: Finally... a viewfinder! That alone is worth rewarding Panasonic with a sale!
Sarcasm? What did Panssonic do to deserve this? They offer three MFT models with vfs and only one without (not counting the GX1). This isn't OLYMPUS where everything is an optional add-on. Panasonic has been good about offering vfs. What's surprising is that it's a field-sequential unit when the cheaper G6 finally dropped that technology for OLED. If the refresh rate can be made high enough. Field sequential could work well, but this seems just a little better, not a major breakthrough. The lack of a mic input is unforgivable. They just end up steering video customers to the cheaper G6 (if they find the GH3 too dear.) It would have cost them hardly anything to include it.
beavertown: Canon and Nikon should start professional grade mirrorless/mirrorless size cameras and lenses or they will die in 10 years' time.
Well designed mirrorless systems do, poorly designed ones don't. The issues are very much the same. I have a Nikon V1, very thoughtfully designed for a glasses wearer as the eyepoint lets me see the whole screen and it has a diopter adjustment of sufficient range. Many EVF designs are bad for glasses (Sony NEX among the worst). Some Fujis stupidly omitted the diopter adjustment. This is still a relatively new market. They're making mistakes that were made (and solved) in the slr world years ago. In this case they should have done better since the problem is no different.
CameraLabTester: Of course Aptina will blurt out whatever spin will give it advantage.
Sales wise, Ad wise, Awarness wise.
Before these "Aptina articles" on DPR, did you know they ever existed?
Well, yes, I did. They make the very interesting, advanced sensors for the Nikon 1 cameras. Aptina included so much processing right on the sensor that Nikon was able to build an electronically simpler camera around it. If they can improve the dynamic range a bit and get the pdaf working in lower light than currently, this will be a lovely sensor. Supposedly next generation Aptina sensors have 4k video and other goodies.
AlanG: I think this design of a mirrorless camera with a built in viewfinder (yes I know this is not the first) is the trend for many "serious" cameras for the foreseeable future. The new Canon sensor based type PD AF combined with better EVFs may make DSLRs obsolete before long.
This won't be a problem forever. It won't be too long before true global sensors are available that read the data super fast. Then mechanical shutters will mostly disappear.