Just Ed: Owned a D600 and now have two 6D's and also use a 5D mkiii. The 6D is quite uderrated. In my experience it focuses far better than Nik's D600 particularily in low light. My point is more focus points does not equal a better focusing system. I recently took a frame of a luminous flashlight in a dark room using autofocus and exposure and the 6D did quite well. Yesterday took pics of a friend and her foster 9 month old hyper energy pointer. Not a single frame was out of focus on the 6D. Now, had I taken the 5D mkiii with me that would have been my go to. But Canon's under rated ff can be had refurbed for under a thousand bucks and will probably be cheaper if they replace it next Spring. It is an image taking machine which adds wifi and gps (use the latter often for travel and events). All my glass is L glass so that helps overall performance. 24-70L, 70-200 f/4 L and also use 100-400 mkii L..
They included the Canon as one of their secondary recommendations and omitted the Nikon. That doesn't sound like underrating the Canon unless you think it should have been rated above the Sony, a camera with image quality second to none in this category, a very effective and versatile autofocus system and superior video. If you need the specific capabilities of a DSLR the Canon looks like a fine choice.
ttran88: Thanks DPR, by recommending the A6000 you have just delayed A6100 or A7000 by a few more months.
I doubt their schedules are affected by awards. More likely they've been busy with all the other models they've introduced and the A6000 continues to sell. It's successor will likely have an advanced sensor of some sort (BSI and layered?), 4K video, and rapid burst speed. A properly implemented touchscreen would be nice, but Sony doesn't seem to think they're essential. Pity.
Androole: I really wish the A6000 had a touch screen. It's such a huge liability on what is otherwise a really good, well-rounded camera. If the A6100/A7000 doesn't manage to combine a touch screen with an EVF, I think I'll have to just give up on Sony...
Sony hasn't used the touchscreen very effectively on the 5100. If they aren't going to commit fully to it as an input device they might as well leave them off. Others do this so much better.
Roshni: There are cameras for so many niches here... but I would not put the a6000 in the top two of any of them.
No touch focus should be considered a deal killer in a small light camera.plastic feel and ergonomics are ordinary. - near the bottom in this pack.image quality is not the best - the Fuji has a better whole photo feel and the Samsung beats it for pixel peeping where the Sony suffers terribly from the jaggers and moire,The canon whoops it for lens value and range
I'm sure the reviewers know a lot more than I but I'm not confident on their call on this one.
I'm not saying they are wrong... but they got it wrong. I just can't figure out which of the other cameras deserves to be at the number in spot, but it looks like it should have been the Samsung. I like the Oly and the Fujis, but got the M2 (much better than the M3) because it is a little gem of a camera.
So find your niche and get the camera that suits you - you ought not be disappointed (even if you buy the Sony)
It's a very well-rounded camera at a bargain price. The image quality is comparable to the rest (some using similar Sony sensors), the evf is sharp and bright, the video features work well (if not quite Panasonic level) and the af is the best in the group, fast, accurate, capable of tracking fast-moving objects. The only real negatives are build quality that feels a bit cheap (mostly just perception) and the iffy kit zoom, which isn't a masterpiece, but is pleasantly small and has a more useful range than competitors, as it starts out wider. If I were serious about video I'd take the G7, but for what most people use cameras for the Sony is very well designed. I do think Sony should add a touchscreen, but that's the only major omission.
radissimo: out of topic: in my original country of origin we call these mushrooms "chicks"
p.s I am surprised that americans are picking mushrooms, certainly its not a case here in Scotland...
Only people who have made an extensive study of their local mushrooms should be picking them. There are too many poisonous ones that look very much like edible ones. The Northwest has very good mushrooms, with their damp weather and ancient forests. Many mushrooms are only found in conjunction with particular trees. The NW has especially nice chanterelles, one of my favorites. . Ugh as I love them, I leave picking to the experts. I like my liver working.
Androole: Despite its lack of of any standout features and some significant deficits, I find myself most drawn to the G9X out of all of these.
It fulfills - better than any of the rest - arguably the most important goal of a pocket camera, which is to fit into a pocket.
The RX100 series have ballooned in thickness to the point where they can be fit into a set of pleated dress pants, but not any jeans that are in style, and no pants at all if I want to do my daily commute by bike.
The G9X is nearly a full centimeter thinner. The current RX100 is like putting an iPhone 5 into the same pocket as the G9X and expecting it to fit comfortably.
If I don't need something that fits in a pocket, I'll just take my GX1 + 20mm/1.7 and enjoy superior image quality in a package only modestly larger than any of these. But that's me!
The original RX100 is still available and the same thickness it always was. Sure, the subsequent models are thicker - a tilting rear screen makes that inevitable. They're still remarkably small for what they offer. I do find the size and weight of the G9X remarkable, but its slowness is hard to accept when everyone else can make cheap, speedy cameras. For a friend of mine who never shoots bursts or video and is used to older, slower cameras it will probably be ideal. But it will have to compete with RX100 models that are either cheaper or better specced, and certainly quicker.
badi: pretty shocked to see two nikon 1 cameras on the 6 camera selection.... maybe i just don't get it...
Maybe it's because Nikon makes two cameras that fit comfortably in this category and the others only make one? They clearly state that their categories are attempting to include all of the current models that will likely continue to be available for some time. I'm a bit mystified that Nikon thinks they need the S line, but they no doubt have their reasons.
mosc: I still think there's a market for this sensor if it were attached to the right lens, like 20-300 f2.8 and made more pocket friendly. The EVF and flash hump don't slide well into the pocket. Give it a rangefinder style side EVF, ditch the hump, and design with pocket in mind. Nothing like that is going to fit in your pocket with any larger a sensor. f2.8 1/1.7" is good enough for outdoor use in shadow if it's a BSI chip. I think you can sell 1/1.7" for $700 but you have to be just about perfect every other way.
Last I checked the RX100 III was pocketable. I like the Stylus 1s, but think it should be a bit cheaper.
Looks good in black. Not so sure about green. Not that it isn't a nice, tasteful green, but still...
Alexis D: Thank you Nikon for these "1" cameras. Big sigh of relief for Olympus, Panasonic, Sony and Fuji each time Canikon release their sub par mirrorless cameras. These small makers are given more time to establish a stronger base and better chance of survival. Viva la competition, et aussi la diversité!
I love having USB charging as an option. Third-party chargers can typically be had for a few dollars, though it would be nice to include one. Get one and you have the best of both worlds. You can even charge two batteries simultaneously overnight if you have access to USB, which you probably do if you travel with a laptop.
MicekyVee: Quote: We were disappointed we couldn't directly set exposure compensation changes to one of the command dials - a feature found on Nikon DSLRs.
Umm. Set Fn2 to Exposure Compensation.. press on the rear control dial bring it up and turn to adjust.. press again and done. Couldn't be simpler.
I'm probably the only owner of the two most bashed cameras on DPReview.. the Nikon V3 and the Canon G1X MkII. Nikon for daylight and lens selection.. have the trifecta 6.7-13VR, 10-100VR and 70-300VR and the Canon for low light and when I need flash.From an handling POV and my uses (rarely print large), I'm not missing my DSLRs at all. For me, it's fit for purpose with some niggles mostly with the flash system. YMMV.
True, but what he's noting is that the rear dial also presses in. That's Fn2. So you don't have to move your thumb at all. Just click in on the dial, turn it one way or the other, and click again to return the dial to its primary function. It's not quite as simple as assigning the function to the dial as its primary function for that mode, and it does use the Fn2 button, but it is quite easy and only uses one dial and its built-in button.
It's getting there. I have a V1, which has its strengths, but even more annoyances, especially the pathetic controls. Thr V3 controls look excellent, as good as any other mirrorless model of similar price, and better than the cheaper dslrs. Twin control dials (real ones, plus the scroll wheel) several function buttons, a flip up touchscreen, and a well designed menu system. And WiFi, this year"s toy. All very nice. The zippy AF system and burst apeed have always been a joy, as has the video, though it is rarely mentioned. What other camera lets you take full res stills while shooting video (wothout interruption).
What it needs are returning the evf to the body, figuring out how to add a hot shoe, even if it means canning the accessory port, and most of all, a sensor with more dynamic range. Aptina has a lot of amazing technology in development. Is it too much to ask for a competitive sensor for still images.
plantdoc: Living in the photo mecca of San Francisco, I was disappointed with Calumet. I expected a well stocked, B&H type store. However, the store always seemed very light on merchandise but with plenty of space. I expect this is the handwriting on the wall for all brick and mortar stores. Even my clothing and shoes must be ordered online because I have special needs and no one stocks anything suitable.Change always happens...good or bad... time will tell I suppose. Now it's order, wait for shipping, and hope you get what you want deliver safely. Greg
Or go to the newish Samy's South of Market. I also found Calumet disappointing on several visits in recent years. Not being a pro, they had no interest in me. The staff preferred to stand around and gossip instead of finding out what I needed. I've only been to Samy's a couple of times, but they were both friendlier and more helpful.
Richard Murdey: On lenses:
The 32/1.2 is a oddity, its a cost-no-object lens for a sensor format that is deeply compromised. However if you are fully invested in Nikon 1 and insist on that level of compactness, it is a fantastic thing.
There's the cheap and perfectly serviceable 10 mm and 18.5 mm primes, various standard kit zooms, an extremely good 30-110 telephoto zoom, an ultrawide zoom, two superzooms, and now a, what, an ultra-tele-zoom?
Most of these lenses are absolutely tiny for their effective FOV, and most are very cheap as well. That's the promise of the CX format delivered: You can take an FX dSLR and one lens out of your bag, and stick a Nikon 1 camera, 3-4 lenses, mini tripod, flash, and wireless remote in the same space.
The 30-110mm is an excellent lens that in no way resembles the lackluster 10-30mm. They have nothing in common. What's remarkable is that the very sharp 30-110mm has often been available in two-lens kits for all of $100. This is a very nicely made lens, as are the others, with very solid construction and metal mounts. The 18.5mm f/1.8 is a good standard prime, and the wa zoom is a honey. Yeah, it isn't fast, but it's adequate for that sort of lens, and it is optically excellent. I wish there were some more fast lenses in the lineup, but they seem to be emphasizing size and price (the only really expensive lenses being specialty items that will sell in small numbers.) The mainstream lenses are all quite reasonable.
Jogger: How do the micolenses work on this set-up?? Wont the micro lenses be really wonky? Rectangular lenses?
BSI sensors still benefit from microlenses. A significant portion of the sensor's area is still occupied by circuitry, but flipping the sensor over means the circuitry isn't on top of the detector layer, where it reflects/absorbs some of the light. In a BSI sensor the light has to pass through a thin layer of silicon only.
tinternaut: Does it come with the E-M1's PDAF?
I suspect it would have added quite a bit to the cost. This is the bargain camera in the OM-D line. If there is a next-generation E-M5 coming, I'd be expecting it it to have the on-sensor PDAF as one of the features to differentiate it from the E-M10. Along with the 5-way IBIS, and maybe a 24mp sensor (and weatherproofing, natch) . That would be my wish list, all very achievable. Oh, and have the power zoom as the 'standard' zoom, with the other choice being an improved weatherproof zoom to replace the underwhelming 12-50.
Tripeiro: In Norway the EM5 with the 12-50 will only cost 200NOK (25€) more than the EM10 with the new kit lens. Yes, the EM5 is at the end of its cycle, but the EM10 is pretty much just a downgraded EM5. Unless you really need Wifi or a built-in flash, I find it hard to justify to buy the EM10 over the superior EM5. Weird price policy from Olympus, at least in Norway.
You give up weatherproofing that few rely on, a little-used accessory port, and ibis that is only slightly better. You get the convenient, if low-power built-in flash, a rear screen that is both slightly higher res and also brighter, a newer generation of processor that should speed up most operations at least a bit, and a very good WiFi implementation. All of that in a smaller body. For those of us who don't subject our gear to harsh weather, the E-M5 has not much to offer over the new camera. The fancier IBIS is fairly irrelevant except for hand-held shots at short distances, and then only for longer exposures. And even for those shots it is only a little better, not magic.
sean lee: Hi, Guys. I have a question. I am not professional photographer. Just like to take pictures.
Now I am using Canon t2i with EF 50mm F1.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 and Sigma 10-20mm. I am satisfying with their IQ but I want to have little smaller body in retro style. I was waiting if canon announce retro style SLR so I can keep the lenses I have now, but I don't think canon will announce and I am tire to keep waiting.
If I switch to Olympus E-M10 or Panasonic GM1, am I down grade or up grade? or just same grade in IQ? Thank you,
Modern CDAF autofocus in strong light for single shots is excellent, very fast and accurate in modern mirrorless cameras. What it isn't good at is tracking moving objects because it doesn't k ow whether they are closer or further, so it has to hunt until it finds the subject again. If it's moving fast it probably won't. They're also not great in low light because CDAF relies on contrast to determine sharpness (and thus focus). As light levels drop CDAF autofocus systems slow down, have to hunt more, and eventually may be unable to, confirm focus. Low contrast subjects are worst for this (unfoetunately that can include faces).
Anyhow, if you do most of your shooting in strong light and don't expect tracking of moving objects, there's a lot to like about the AF pwrformance of these cameras.
Beat Traveller: That's a damn good price for a mirrorless camera with an EVF, stabilisation and a small-form body. I like where the market is going.
Panasonic prices usually drop quite a long ways during the product lifecycle, with Olympus prices staying near list for most of their product lives. The G6 prices have been holding up better than many other Panasonic models (possibly because it is basically quite nice), but I expect this to drive them down. The G5 was down to $500 well before it was replaced. While their current prices may look them look like direct competitors, they are only in their positions within each maker's lineup. This should also drive down the price on the E-P5. I'd have a very hard time buying one of those over an E-M10. Even with an evf it is quite small, and certainly much more shapely than the E-M5. This is the first of the Olympus MFT cameras to seem like a bargain at list price. Very attractive, but I do wish they'd offer that tiny power zoom as an alternative kit lens. That would be a great travel combo (though I like the zoom range of the Sony 16-50 better).
JDThomas: "JK doesn't have a booth at the show, but we visited them in a hotel suite..."
Pssst. Hey kid, wanna see some top quality camera gear? Meet me in the back alley behind the Rio Hotel. I'll cut you in on a good deal.
If it's reverse engineered, it was done in record time. No, I don't think that happened. What more likely is they heard such a product was being developed and decided to build a competitor. That's a long ways from reverse engineering.