Despite the tardiness at bringing this review out.........A very fair and well presented effort.Agreement on lens AF speed, the 50-135 is a beautiful lens but a bit of a slug.There is so much option now and no truly bad cameras out there, just buy what suits your need.But a truly fine camera.
drummercam: "Cannot change drive mode, white balance, or AF mode remotely"
I find it hard to see all of these as "cons." In the special circumstances in which I'm likely to use remote camera control with my phone or a pad, I'm likely to set the basic parameters for the circumstances before I put the camera in place. Certainly, I won't want to switch to manual focus if I've placed the camera where I can't reach it to manually focus it. If I need to pre-focus manually, I will have done that before putting the camera in-place. The FLU card can't fry an egg, either, but that's not a mark against it.
Remote WB control also seems little needed. Drive mode, maybe I would want to switch that.
So in all three situations i've mentioned, you can go back to your camera and re-set those functions if you need, but a real photographer will know what drive mode, white balance and AF mode he will need as he sets the camera up. It means you can be 20 feet away from the camo'd K3 focused on a tree branch for that shy little wren......concentrate on making sure the image on your laptop is the desired effect and be able to move around your subject and talk to your model....etc etc. I see it as a specialised and very useful pro tool for those who don't own a Phase one or Hasselblad or expensive FF kit ???
Drummercam, you've been around long enough....I am getting the same thinking here. I gather this is primarily designed as a wireless tethering system for control of your camera for more specialist functions like studio, landscape or birding with set subjects with camera on tripod, wanting to ensure your getting the desired result by looking at things on a larger screen, rather than finishing your shoot and finding out you've stuffed up something later ???? As opposed to wifi, which I gather is more about getting that image straight out to cyberspace for quick viewing by facebook, instagram or the news desk of the paper??
select: this is useless, why don't you put a built in wifi? In this way you can transfer only files which are in the Flucard, but you can't browse and transfer those in the other standard SD card... and also the Flucard 16gb costs $100 or more... this is crazy...
I stand to be corrected 'select', but I think the FLU card is designed to be very different from a wiFi system. It's more about studio or landscape control in real time.
Well reviewed tidbit of info to keep us Pentax users calm(er) otherwise I hear flouride or Valium may work better......
Also, the 24mp K3 at $1200, a reasonable quality existing lens in your lineup, plus the FLU card at $100 and your existing tablet or laptop and apart from lighting, this makes a very very affordable high (pro-level) quality studio tool.
For me, transferring the RAW file immediately to the laptop or tablet is not essential. I just want to see on a decent sized screen, that I have the lighting and focus right, although the current inability to zoom the full size jpeg is a bit of a pain and nice to see a firmware fix?
Dare I say it, well done and looking forward to the full review...my pick 83-85% Gold, about par with the 70D for DPR scoring.
completelyrandomstuff: Here's something to make customers go 'wow':50-135mm F2.0 for APS-c cameras. It would be a worthy, and possibly lighter, alternative to full-frame 70-200 F2.8.
Which is almost exactly the lens I have, except f2.8.....Pentax makes them and very nice too. Fabulous portrait and wedding lens on the K5 or K3
Great questions and honest answers, giving valuable insight to the industry, regardless of who's product you shoot with. Nice work......
Forgetting any pre conceived ideas about what a camera 'should' look like, the design has merrill......oops or should I say merrit. functional and that grip looks ok and as previously mentioned, perhaps a decent battery with better shooting life?
jimrpdx: So that's why the K-3 review is taking so long - the shooter preparing a "shooters report" hasn't returned yet! :-)
Looks like Fuji has found its place - good for them.
I had some inside info that the yetti, was actually a double agent working on behalf of a consortium of other brands like Nikon, Canon and Sony who wanted their cameras reviewed first......and the yetti was offering holidays with Fuji cameras as well....who wouldnt take an offer like that?
Gehyra: I still have an old Fujifilm S2 pro, although now it is gathering dust; In its day I loved the Fujifilm colours; Many folks predicted the death of Fujifilm as a credible camera manufacturer, but I see them rising proudly from the ashes with a diversity of cameras that are functional objects of beauty. I presently own a D7000 but this XT-1 is seriously tempting- having grown up shooting with Pentax MX and Oly OM-1 cameras (cause I'm old) I see this dark beast, albeit a small, functional beast, this is an object of lust; the small size, the "familiar" controls- this thing makes me breath funny, in a sort of creepy way. I'll dream of this camera.. There are doubtlessly other capable cameras out there, but this nails the aesthetics and control layout in a compact body. I want one.
clearly you have some issues.............But I will accept that my first response was that its one damn fine looking camera, reminiscent of old Fujica's?A far better rendition of design than Oly's recent offerings, fine cameras they are im sure.
driftnomore: ..the pentax k-3 review is left in the cold....
other websites has reviewed it with fair results.you may not review it,dpr anyway..
@Marty.....maybe you need to look at the specs or DPr's own preview....K3 has anti aliasing turn on/off....FLU card....multizone white balance. It brings a fair bit of new tech not just to Pentax.Is the Nikon Df innovative or just a re-hash made to look old?Even Pentax you can use plenty of old lenses with an adapter, so just by shoe horning a FF sensor into a smallish body....or the 70D in a totally different league to the K3? Dont think so.It's a pretty slow path....every other site has done review and the Nikon came out pretty quick. Seeming more like DP News than DP Reviews.....
nandadevieast: Someone said it on another forum, how true: "I think that was an unfair review that got too hung up on details and missed the bigger picture about what a massive breakthrough this camera is. And I dont even like the camera."
In principal....i'm hearing you, but is that not what most of these reviews do, pick out details, because for one person, that detail may seem to be the positive or negative that breaks the deal.Are we not to check all this out ourselves and make our on decisions?? It's a bit like their scoring system and the fascination with video in these cameras and how much that means to the BULK of users.This gets 80% and silver, while 70D gets 83% and gold.My Pick is that K3 will get gold and around the 80% mark, marked down on video again........yet the guy who can't care less for video will think its a 90% platinum and he should not concern and just buy it.Of course it's breakthrough and I don't much like the look of it or it's ergonomics either, but sure a lot will and take what they want out of it without worrying too much about Dpreview.
Interesting result. Pentax users are traditionally supportive, but this seems to go above and beyond that. Now is the time for Pentax to cement this result and continue to build their sales and marketing game, plus a few new serious 'system' products to continue the momentum.
RoelHendrickx: How can you seriously expect the readers to vote for "best" of several cameras.Any reader probably bought only one of these in 2013 - if he bought ANY camera in the first place...So everyone is just going to vote for the one they bought (or wished they could have bought), without on-hands knowledge of the others.Such a poll does not search for "best" but for "most popular in sales/wishlists".
Pentax users are a fiercely loyal breed that historically punch well above their weight in polls and forums.......the fact that they have three in the list is excellent, but the results are just normal as Canikon users don't feel the need to defend their brand so much. There is nothing new to see here.........but is a good result.
rolis10: The Pentax K3 is an Excellent camera with a amazing build quality. Lenses and skill are what i am going to concentrate on. This camera has all the tech i will need for a while. All camera manufacturers are producing great cameras but what sold me on Pentax was my photography instructor. He mentioned to our class that we needed to be cautious with too much moisture. He was at the butterfly Pavilion in Denver and the steam was turned on and he had to leave for fear of ruining his camera. Did a Little research and hear i am. A Pentax customer probably for life as long as they keep producing awesome cameras.
They dropped the ball at the beginning of the digital era, had a FF ready to go but never produced it due to expensive sensor.Always relied on APS-C which are very good for stills and rugged build, but not the all round systems of Canikon. Presently playing catch up and looking ready to bounce back. All the signs are good, but video implementation and AF systems not quite up to Canon / Sony levels but improving...........
KW Phua: There is not easy to find a perfect camera. When everything is perfect the cost most likely will be outstanding also. So each manufacturer select what they think is the most important criteria/spec for their camera. They may target their selected group. Same for the user. I also like to have a perfect camera, but if nan is perfect, I will select the one most suitable for my way for photography. Yes, GOOD IQ is very importance but for someone, he may prefer to get faster AF, and some prefer to use MF lens with top quality. Why need 1Dx or D4 if he only use MF lens.
....and it's also no point having good IQ if your camera doesnt focus properly. Better having a sharp shot than no shot, which is where Canon derive their solid reputation.
yabokkie: Canon is my first line gear but there is no Canon camera that I'd give a good rating. they are all so-so ones.
(the dual-pixel AF on 70D is an "invention of the decade" but the image quality and AF sensor are no good compared with rivals)
interesting call??I would love to get my hands on a 70D and take some shots to convince me how much difference there really is between the Canon sensor and one of the Sony/Toshiba ones.......The 70D review here on DPR was not exactly glowing, yet it got a 83% score. I still maintain that Canon is where it is by making all round solid performing cameras, pro support and heavy marketing. That's where almost everyone fell off the boat. Go into a shop and try not to find a Canon product and you'll be hard pressed.It would seem to be the whole package which they do well, not necessarily individual parts of the camera standing out other than video and AF.But then again how really bad is everyone else in terms of focus speed? and how really bad are Canon sensors in real life?Perhaps large blow up quality from their APS-C? but the reality of how many doing that is minute in whole sales terms.
forpetessake: A lot of criticism comes from the fact that the article comes under "Gear of the Year" title. Had it been entitled "Our Staff's Personal Pick" people wouldn't be misled thinking that it was an objective evaluation and ranking of the 2013 gear.
I think as many people just shoot jpeg around the world, the similar amount of people just quickly surf the headlines and would have mis read the intent.I agree with forpetesake here. Never mind, job done, bur perhaps we will send John Carlson around for a shoulder rub and a few vouchers to a shrink for counselling.....Lol
Xentinus: if the only matter is size,pentax has really small bodies with lovely limited lenses.to be honest i would not pay for a piece of plastic which is written canon on it.
No disrespect Shawn and of course, it wouldnt be DPR without keeping you on your toes......if I didnt shoot Pentax, i'd probably have a 70D or 5DmkII by now. I did like the colours and AF as well, but other things for my style tipped me away.My concern was with the 'ethics' of letting you guys proclaim gear of the year, being perceived by many as Camera of the year, where as previously stated, should be headlined in a different manner........i'm sure the SL1 does what every Canon does well, the basics... in a solidly pieced together way, that forms a nice overall package
@ Dr Noise....precisely and totally agree..... so what other brands have bought things to the table that cancel out this little marvels finer points? Quite a few i suspect....I just looked at the "what I liked" things and thought yeah, cool, but if his daughter splashed a fist full of sand and sea water at Daddy's nice Canon, guess he'll have to take it back and beg for another one...just one of many other features...weather sealing?? for example.