driftnomore: ..the pentax k-3 review is left in the cold....
other websites has reviewed it with fair results.you may not review it,dpr anyway..
@Marty.....maybe you need to look at the specs or DPr's own preview....K3 has anti aliasing turn on/off....FLU card....multizone white balance. It brings a fair bit of new tech not just to Pentax.Is the Nikon Df innovative or just a re-hash made to look old?Even Pentax you can use plenty of old lenses with an adapter, so just by shoe horning a FF sensor into a smallish body....or the 70D in a totally different league to the K3? Dont think so.It's a pretty slow path....every other site has done review and the Nikon came out pretty quick. Seeming more like DP News than DP Reviews.....
nandadevieast: Someone said it on another forum, how true: "I think that was an unfair review that got too hung up on details and missed the bigger picture about what a massive breakthrough this camera is. And I dont even like the camera."
In principal....i'm hearing you, but is that not what most of these reviews do, pick out details, because for one person, that detail may seem to be the positive or negative that breaks the deal.Are we not to check all this out ourselves and make our on decisions?? It's a bit like their scoring system and the fascination with video in these cameras and how much that means to the BULK of users.This gets 80% and silver, while 70D gets 83% and gold.My Pick is that K3 will get gold and around the 80% mark, marked down on video again........yet the guy who can't care less for video will think its a 90% platinum and he should not concern and just buy it.Of course it's breakthrough and I don't much like the look of it or it's ergonomics either, but sure a lot will and take what they want out of it without worrying too much about Dpreview.
Interesting result. Pentax users are traditionally supportive, but this seems to go above and beyond that. Now is the time for Pentax to cement this result and continue to build their sales and marketing game, plus a few new serious 'system' products to continue the momentum.
RoelHendrickx: How can you seriously expect the readers to vote for "best" of several cameras.Any reader probably bought only one of these in 2013 - if he bought ANY camera in the first place...So everyone is just going to vote for the one they bought (or wished they could have bought), without on-hands knowledge of the others.Such a poll does not search for "best" but for "most popular in sales/wishlists".
Pentax users are a fiercely loyal breed that historically punch well above their weight in polls and forums.......the fact that they have three in the list is excellent, but the results are just normal as Canikon users don't feel the need to defend their brand so much. There is nothing new to see here.........but is a good result.
rolis10: The Pentax K3 is an Excellent camera with a amazing build quality. Lenses and skill are what i am going to concentrate on. This camera has all the tech i will need for a while. All camera manufacturers are producing great cameras but what sold me on Pentax was my photography instructor. He mentioned to our class that we needed to be cautious with too much moisture. He was at the butterfly Pavilion in Denver and the steam was turned on and he had to leave for fear of ruining his camera. Did a Little research and hear i am. A Pentax customer probably for life as long as they keep producing awesome cameras.
They dropped the ball at the beginning of the digital era, had a FF ready to go but never produced it due to expensive sensor.Always relied on APS-C which are very good for stills and rugged build, but not the all round systems of Canikon. Presently playing catch up and looking ready to bounce back. All the signs are good, but video implementation and AF systems not quite up to Canon / Sony levels but improving...........
KW Phua: There is not easy to find a perfect camera. When everything is perfect the cost most likely will be outstanding also. So each manufacturer select what they think is the most important criteria/spec for their camera. They may target their selected group. Same for the user. I also like to have a perfect camera, but if nan is perfect, I will select the one most suitable for my way for photography. Yes, GOOD IQ is very importance but for someone, he may prefer to get faster AF, and some prefer to use MF lens with top quality. Why need 1Dx or D4 if he only use MF lens.
....and it's also no point having good IQ if your camera doesnt focus properly. Better having a sharp shot than no shot, which is where Canon derive their solid reputation.
DPR.....how about doing a survey, carefully worded, brand free, and with as wide an audience as possible over such things as form factor, portability, video use, amount of blow ups done, what influenced your camera choice and a few other things that make up a lot of review factors..........as scientific as can be possibly done and see what the DPR viewers and public actually want??
I don't care for video at this stage and you make such an issue of it. So why not get some serious feedback on this issue. I am sure you could find a way of making it a financially viable affair, in association with your affiliate companies.
yabokkie: Canon is my first line gear but there is no Canon camera that I'd give a good rating. they are all so-so ones.
(the dual-pixel AF on 70D is an "invention of the decade" but the image quality and AF sensor are no good compared with rivals)
interesting call??I would love to get my hands on a 70D and take some shots to convince me how much difference there really is between the Canon sensor and one of the Sony/Toshiba ones.......The 70D review here on DPR was not exactly glowing, yet it got a 83% score. I still maintain that Canon is where it is by making all round solid performing cameras, pro support and heavy marketing. That's where almost everyone fell off the boat. Go into a shop and try not to find a Canon product and you'll be hard pressed.It would seem to be the whole package which they do well, not necessarily individual parts of the camera standing out other than video and AF.But then again how really bad is everyone else in terms of focus speed? and how really bad are Canon sensors in real life?Perhaps large blow up quality from their APS-C? but the reality of how many doing that is minute in whole sales terms.
forpetessake: A lot of criticism comes from the fact that the article comes under "Gear of the Year" title. Had it been entitled "Our Staff's Personal Pick" people wouldn't be misled thinking that it was an objective evaluation and ranking of the 2013 gear.
I think as many people just shoot jpeg around the world, the similar amount of people just quickly surf the headlines and would have mis read the intent.I agree with forpetesake here. Never mind, job done, bur perhaps we will send John Carlson around for a shoulder rub and a few vouchers to a shrink for counselling.....Lol
Xentinus: if the only matter is size,pentax has really small bodies with lovely limited lenses.to be honest i would not pay for a piece of plastic which is written canon on it.
No disrespect Shawn and of course, it wouldnt be DPR without keeping you on your toes......if I didnt shoot Pentax, i'd probably have a 70D or 5DmkII by now. I did like the colours and AF as well, but other things for my style tipped me away.My concern was with the 'ethics' of letting you guys proclaim gear of the year, being perceived by many as Camera of the year, where as previously stated, should be headlined in a different manner........i'm sure the SL1 does what every Canon does well, the basics... in a solidly pieced together way, that forms a nice overall package
@ Dr Noise....precisely and totally agree..... so what other brands have bought things to the table that cancel out this little marvels finer points? Quite a few i suspect....I just looked at the "what I liked" things and thought yeah, cool, but if his daughter splashed a fist full of sand and sea water at Daddy's nice Canon, guess he'll have to take it back and beg for another one...just one of many other features...weather sealing?? for example.
We all have our favourites for certain reasons...and Shawn makes a point that he's obviously a Canon follower because he has the lenses. I do find it slightly odd that such a well known website lets its writers pronounce to the world that XYZ camera is their Camera gear for the year.....how many people just glance over it and tell their mate at work....oh yeah DPR says it's camera of the year without really reading into it, thereby bringing such Kudos to any camera? I don't have an issue with Canon at all, fine cameras they are, but you've just bought unusual amount of positive media coverage to what is effectively nothing special in the camera world and something that other brand followers have been enjoying for a while........Canon just woke up to the fact its not size that matters...or is it?? Lol
While I don't mind the plastic on the Canon's and I don't see them falling apart at all, I do find it amusing that he has just discovered a DSLR with a small form factor and a pancake lens and is calling it his camera of the year........Pentax video is decidedly average, but user interface is superb and guess what they have even better optical viewfinders and much improved AF, better lowlight performance and weather sealing to boot. Is this a joke?? C'mon.....Canon are good cameras, yes but a camera of the year the SL1 ??
Segaman: hey guys DSLR are going to be a rare breed, the stats are telling us that in the next five years, things will be hard, so lets keep the spirit alive, specially for Nikon, which I love their products!Christopher Chute from market intelligence firm IDC predicts Nikon may be out of business in 5 years if the trend continues.
“You’re talking about a 10-15% decline in DSLR shipments all over the world. Which is kind of shocking because that market’s been growing double digits for almost ten years. Nikon recently said they have a five year plan to address this. And my view is, that five year plan should have come out five years ago. They’re not going to be around in five years.”http://www.eoshd.com/content/11409/consumer-dslrs-dead-5-years
.....and because the 2012 stats were unusually high and projected company sales were higher still for 2013 which did not happen. Don't stress it, whilst some of the M4/3 systems are good, so are APC-C, but it'll take a while little while before small sensor tech could ever literally compete with these. 5 years...me thinks not.
Michael Ma: Such great technology wasted on a Windows phone and Nokia branded devices. Put it on the iPhone or Galaxy device. It's like finding a cure for aging, but adding in the clause that you have to go through a gender change operation if you want to use it.
For most people, it's not worth the switch.
Ditto, just changed from Android to WP8....holy smoke, what a slick machine. The 1020 camera is truly a revelation. it certainly sticks it to my DSLR in some situations......
kitsios_spyros: The specifications set is fantastic and many crusial issues that have been discussed about K5 seem to be addressed with the new model.Let's see how they actually perform in real life. I am especially interested in the implementation of multi-pattern WB and it's effect when not needed (auto on mode..), the "without AA-filter" IQ (D7100 did not impress me at 100% magnification), the new, bigger OVF and of course the new generation AF module. DPR team, I am looking forward to a review before the end of this month. I consider you a great source but I hope there will be no big delays, as with previous Pentax models.Till then, it seems a great camera and an important model for Pentax in the very competitive market. WR for the 55-300 is a nice move too.
True, see how it outperforms K5II in real life. I suspect that it's getting harder to make huge gains in image quality nowadays and we are paying for smaller improvements.I suspect that for the video brigade, pro's and wildlifers there's a lot here for them, but the average shooter, not so sure it's going to totally out perform the K5 enough to convince people to part with their money other than the look at me factor....Still glad I bought the K5IIs recently and will try and master that and my technique first, but the remote operation tethering has me intrigued.Yes WR55-300 just part of the wider plan and good news, suspect the IQ with the HD coating may be enhanced.
maxola67: More 200 posts for K3 and only 60 ones for D610 - Nikon doesn't make interests.
Yawn.....boring!! Who outsells who and who out forum posts who is irrelevant to things like quality, profitability and the fact that they both make good camera's. Pentax as we all know is playing catch up, but looking in go forward mode now....
zakaria: Well done Pentax as usual .thanks Richo for keeping k 5 body!
That is a nice touch, but seems the grip is different. Was thinking about ditching the Kx as a back up, but still shoots well and can use AA's in the K5/3 battery grip as well.....
rossdoyle: This is good news. The DA 55-300 is a sharp lens. I have often wished it was weather-sealed to go along with the weather-sealed camera body (K-5). Next, I would love to see some weather-sealed limiteds and DA primes...
Can't see my self heading out for this in a hurry, but agree my version of the DA-L is pretty sharp. Just another string to their bow and makes a lot of sense. The new HD coatings will be interesting to see reviewed and particularly on the K3....
That's a whole lot of camera for the money...............