IZO100: Everything is wrong with this camera !
another DOA from Pentax, amazing...
The camera is what it is......not saying its the best or even great. If you read the original comments, people are presuming and expressing their own ignorance. Random uneducated and inflammatory comments deserve shooting down.Read my comments in context and tell me I am blindly defending it. Not so, it could be a piece of junk, but chances are its a capable modern superzoom, not class leading, but then at 280 dollars its not expecting to be. It s most likely just plain good value.
Think yr getting your definition of trolls a wee bit mixed up .......
BTW, I used to shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon and Praktika. So long as it suits my needs. All good brands n products out there, I just don't go trolling n trying to antagonize people.
Lol, sounds like you love the Banter !Yes I shoot a Pentax, but I am not using rose tinted glasses or wearing Pentax underwear !I think Most all other cameras serve a purpose and are introduced for a purpose well beyond the average forum geeks personal interest.It's just another camera but that doesn't mean its apiece of junk or the death Nell of the company. So long as cameras sell at the right price and take photos is what the mass market wants, which is what this aimed at.
MDwebpro: No RAW capture?f3.1 - F5.9 lens?No Hi-Res, articulated LCD?No hot shoe?No stereo video sound?
Really? Seriously? Are we still living in 2010?
Sure AA batteries not everyone's cup of tea, but Sanyo eneloop are excellent performers and AA is available everywhere and all countries, so when your ni cad goes bad, what r you going to do ?It's saved a number of people n allowed them to get going again.
At that price ! Hope the drugs your on are worth it.Take a look at the price point of all the various Fuji models and what they offer. Have Pentax announced that this is a class leading high tech blow away the competition model ? No.It's their sole entry into the market with several new areas that Pentax haven't been in before.It will sell in low to average numbers enough to turn a profit or be a good test bed for multi burst low noise or fold out screens.I hope you don't buy it as it appears you will be terribly disappointed. A reasonable number of tourist, holiday maker, newbies will, especially if Pentax continue with its new policy of selling in high volume retail shops.
Another ignorant and pointless comment IZO100.Is it born of hate of Pentax ?It's not bringing any real new tech to the market but some to Pentax.Will it outsell Fuji or Panny or anyone else ? no but,does that mean its dead in the water ?So long as it sells enough to turn a profit and increase Pentax profile among non forum nit picking geeks, then its done a job hasn't it.Market strategy is more than what most of us consider in the ultimate camera.Maybe you wish to provide a decent argument or spread your ignorance elsewhere.
garyknrd: I was hoping Ricoh would take Pentax into a more quality camera. Wait until the replacement for the k-5 comes out. But it does not look good. Ricoh is in financial trouble. I know that, but was hoping buying Pentax would help Pentax. I am not so sure now.
Yes and being able to have offerings in all markets can help your overall market awareness and profitability.What about dad shooting a Pentax dslr n mum wants something a little less expensive but has to buy a Fuji or Panasonic. Now they have options and it goes vice versa. Kid gets this and gets hooked to photography, later buys a dslr.Think outside the square people.
Carlos Henrique: I used to have a superzoom camera and it is a very good traveler companion: light with a long reach and able of good 6" x 4" prints. Pentax has a name in the photography history but I think something is wrong because the camera specs are a bit outdated and not quite exciting - there are a lot of comeptition out there. But for sure it will attend a niche of the market due to the price. But I wonder if someone looking for a superzoom camera compares it to the Panasonic FZ200 for example, the price will be the only factor in favor to the Pentax model.
Agreed, there are a couple of new things in there to Pentax which is good for market development. We haven't seen IQ results yet and Q is a very good performer, so any advance on that has to be good.Yes, price n value for money is a winner here.
derfla1949: A DSLR-like superzoom with a 1/2.33" sensor.'nuff said.
Go have a look at Fuji, Panny, Canikon.....etc. They all do it. Is this news to you ?Have you not realised that they all produce bridge cams that look similar to or same as dslr with the same sized sensor ? It's marketing, its not the same size, it just looks like one. People who don't pixel peep over image sensor size, but r happy with IQ but want zoom range n a whole host of features.Go n do your homework before posting stupid comments. It's a valid market with all the big players involved.
FTW: Nothing against the concept, but in a period where a TV screen and camera manufacturer builds a camera as big as 2 matchboxes with a 20 mpix 1 inch sensor in it and that makes pictures as nice as a dslr, Pentax finds the way to make a box as big as 8 matchboxes with a ridiculous mini sensor in it. Probably it targets the buyers who have to make a huge present to some people they really don't like. Who really wants such a camera while some huge tools like the RX100 and real good mirrorless concepts exist.
I see no real progression at Pentax since a 2 years now, just dusting old hats, or making real expensive gadgets like the Q. I like the concept of the Q, I just await Sony to do something similar that with a correct sensor, an RX100 with interchangeable lenses. Pentax will probably never do it, this new dslr like camera does not points in that direction.
I can't believe the trash which comes out in such announcements. It's a bridge camera, which is a replacement for the x90. Most bridge cameras use the same size or similar size sensor.Go have a look at all the other line ups from Canikon, Fuji, panny etc. They all have similar spec units for sale because those who dont want interchangeable lenses and great zoom.Look at the price point ! It's plugging a gap in the present line up and well liked by people who don't want to shoot with phones cos they get a lot more photo control.Never seen such dribble from supposedly knowledgeable people in all my life. If you want a compact matchbox sized WiFi compatable cappuccino making, cam that will beam you up to the starship enterprise, go find one, buy it and forget about stupid comments about a total different market n strategy by Pentax most likely designed to increase market share.
Another good and fair review. If you go into the various categories you find that its no class leader. There's a lot of catch up with other brands like pancake lenses, HDR, photo stacking and "not quite up to its peers" in some areas. I like the feel and constant evolution of the Canon's and one can only assume that its the sum total of all the parts that makes it what it is, with a nice touch screen (which wont help photo image quality).Theres no going away from the fact that they have a huge marketing campaign and build solid performers that tend to be treated as the benchmark........but still like to see the K30 review please Dpr !!
Smart article Dpreview, great info and good to see some other peoples comments here. A worthwhile entry.
zigwi: hmm i like multiple exposure... but i think it isn't new things.I already shoot something like this with prosumer camera several years ago.you can see my shoot in
My camera is Casio
Did you bother to look at his photo? I counted at least 15 movements of a baseballer at the moment of pitching.Thats impressive from years ago.
I appreciate this a tweaked version and maybe a step up from whats been used before, but if the others were really serious about this function, i'm sure it would have been developed further themselves.
1. The gymnastics shots are not quality,2. Its just a take on some old technology, and3. It comes across as a marketing excercise for Canon.
Zigwi's photo is very impressive indeed. Yes its an old camera from way back, so the IQ wont be anywhere near a 1Dx, but it shouldnt be at that price.
What everyone is saying here is......who cares !! It was done in the film days, several brands have had a version of it for years and now Canon get heralded as some techno genuises. I dont have any problem with Canon, but its like them coming out with a Rueters shot in cam HDR in 5 years time and saying ...LOOK!! WOW!!
Blackfjord: Boring. A special effect that's not that special. Canon, you try to impress with this? Just make a solid camera with a huge viewfinder, dead on focus accuracy and speed, and a supremely comfortable body, and IQ bordering on medium format. You're charging plenty for this already. Just do it or get out of the business. Geez.
Wow, Juck again, this time you copied and pasted someone elses reply...........and using terms like Bitchslapppp and baz-ing. Are you sure your in the right forum? Try www.gofindsomethingintelligenttodo.com
Just had a look at the Dpreview announcement.....they obviously didnt fully review it. The 60fps is insane and so is the constant buffering. I guess that was possible with smaller files. The sensor wont compete with modern ones, I had a fuji s7000 about the same time. We dont see much of casio downunder apart from some small point and shoot cameras.That baseball multi exposure is a fabulous example....dont get rid of the camera even if you get a new one, you may regret it.
Hey, great shot...............thats a classic use of multi exposure !Yes, this cracks me up, how old was the camera? Was it a casio that you used ? Maybe you should have gone to the Olympics too.I guess we know that its been around for years and its a surprise to see the function in a pro level camera, but that really does make a mockery of the headline article then.
robbo d: Um.....read all the previous posts. So many brands have been doing this for years, Pentax, Nikon, Olympus etc.Maybe Canon have tweaked it, but my Pentax Kx can put 9 shots together, (possibly not in a single burst) and thats an entry level DSLR designed, what three years ago ?? This is a case of Canon just catching up with the rest. I am not a Canon basher, but a major article on what is effectively some old but tweaked technology seems to get people all excited and effectively some free advertising......probably some smart phone app can do it too.I do like something different though and a good subject matter to work with.The photographer and Canon will get the kudos now......bit of a chuckle !!
Nishi, not sure what angle your coming from here in adding to this thread ?? But I think video in DSLR's has given many a photographer the choice of doing both stills and video.Weddings are a classic. My son often asks me to video him skateboarding, then I can switch to stills for my preferred action shots. Its actually become a definitive market and Canon and Sony are market leaders in this area.Canon are market leaders and video is an area they excel in, but it would seem that in the APSC cams, the leading video is not the leading stills....unsure if there is a correlation here and a compromise ?? My original comments here were about seeing Canon being vaunted as showcasing new technology, when its dubious as to wether its new or a catch up with a twist ???
Yes I shall clarify and agree that Canon have done a lot of the basic ground work very well and their pro gear , L lenses, video capability and others you mention.Its now an interesting market because all this, shall I say 'additiona'l tech like the smart phones, HDR, Sony's multi shot layering etc is starting to push the traditional makers.I do think Canons recent lower and mid level DSLR's arent exactly leading tech, but I think thats a well thought out plan. The others have to come up with stuff to compete with that big Canon name.My 'chuckle' with the article was the heading and reading would and obviously does give many the impression that Canon have developed this technology and its only availbale with them and on the pro level cams.Dpr are a major site that has a lot of influence, any heading is going to get attention and not always be understood. Cannot ask them to 2nd guess everything they put up. But if it gets hits and views, they got to love it.
Vitruvius: I do not own any high end camera so I am actually surprised that this has not been available till now. I remember using this on my EOS 600 film camera in 1988. I was not able to print the 9 pictures seperately after using the ME funcion :-) Still, I don't see why you wouldn't just do this in PS later with more control. I can't imagine doing this on the little screen on the back of a camera. Obviously the camera has the processing power so why not add the feature for those that want it I guess.
I wonder, if the camera was tripod mounted, and if so, why is the text on the horse blurred? Image Stabilizer shift between frames? Would this be better without IS on?
Vitruvius, I read the article which stated they only received the cameras just before the Olympics and had not time to fully investigate the feature.It did not mention wether tripod was used, but you would bet he has held it firm as possible somehow. Lots of those guys carry mono pods to hold those big lenses. I suspect a tripod and remote would bring about a slightly better result. As an in cam special effects shot, he probably got it to their website or a newspaperASAP and they dont have time to do lots of PP. Its like in cam HDR.....good for people who just want to push the button and let the cam do it, but newer technology stuff takes a few more goes to develop properly and often PP is the way to go.As many people are saying, other brands have had the beginnings of this tech in their digi cams for the last few years.