marike6: I don't care for the chubby body design, but this is one of the better 16 mp Sony cameras in recent memory. It performs particularly well in video mode. Looking at the Studio Scene Comparison (RAW), my little K-30 beats up on all 3 other cameras pretty good. I fully expect come K30 review time though for DPR to find some arcane reason why it's not even a Silver Award, but we will see.
Anyway, just messing around. Thanks DPR for the review.
Whilst I am a Pentax user and presently see no reason to change, its the sum total of all the areas of a camera that must be taken into consideration when reviewing. Canon and Sony offerings are well rounded packages that perform.better on video. And a few other little tricks, whilst our beloved Pentax produces excellent IQ at a gazillion ISO. Most people don't shoot there. They also don't review based on excellent kit lenses like the 55-300.I am looking forward to the completion of the K30 which is taking a bizarre length of time.I expect it to score around the same ball park. Dynamic range on K30 was not top score either, and WR wont suddenly make it a winner.It's a horse's for courses choice for most people.
K5 is still a top performing aps-c, so tweaking a good thing and not completely falling for the higher mp trap must mean an excellent cam.The removed aliasing filter version should produce stunning quality for commercial shooters producing near FF results in a handy package.The q to k adapter could be a lot of fun on a 55-300 lens. That's wildlife shooting at a cheap price for lots of people.Still can't help thinking another higher end cam is coming.Am pleased with the announcements thus far.Real world Users should be impressed despite those negative people who always pop up for the sake of it.
robbo d: Whilst I find the rolling review disjointed and disappointing, is it playing into Pentax hands ?At least its k30 time every couple of weeks.Soon the Canikon fanboys will be claiming dpr is on Pentax payroll......Lol. Ironic?Will be an interesting time after photokina with so many products coming onto the market.
@BarneyI thought my post added a little light hearted humour to balance out the criticism of some Pentax die hards who think yr on Canons payroll.The K30 isn't my pet camera, but I do find the response time compared to other major dslr reviews more than a little odd.I happen to think the 650d review was a good read,especially as it all came at once. The K30 is significant model as the 650d, so I guess some have a right to be suspicous of your motives, despite their blinkered thinking. The K5 reviewed as one of the highest scores ever, so I am still believing in a balanced viewpoint.
Whilst I find the rolling review disjointed and disappointing, is it playing into Pentax hands ?At least its k30 time every couple of weeks.Soon the Canikon fanboys will be claiming dpr is on Pentax payroll......Lol. Ironic?Will be an interesting time after photokina with so many products coming onto the market.
I like Nokia's camera technology and am one of those who aren't worried about many apps.What I will want when my phone plan changes next year is better battery life. I am leaning to the Nokia phone tech, but I think the Samsung battery life rocks unless this improves on that. Be nice to have best of both worlds.
I personally feel an overkill by just one or two nieces using it and posting images on facebook, however: This is photography love or hate it and there is an application for it by some of these professionals in certain situations.Like it or not, much like HDR it polarises opinion, but I liked the content of the article as a read and the reason why DPRis the 'go to' photo site for many.Thanks for the informative article.............
Benjamin Kanarek: Pentax, Canon, Nikon, Sony etc all build really good camera's that in most cases out perform the potential of those using them. The K30 is a good camera, but in the hands of a pixel peeping dysfunctional user, it will be of no consequence to anyone other than those who spend time in front of a screen determining which pixel outperforms the next. Just get out there and use your stuff. Yeah, I use Pentax to shoot for magazines the likes of VOGUE & Harper's BAZAAR. But I could do so with pretty much anything out there. We shot all of our HD video's with the Pentax K-x and K-01 and I hear no complaints from the clients. My K20D's and K5's have been used for everything that has been published over the last 5 years. I almost switched back to Canon last month with their 5D Mklll. But I might just as well get the Nikon D800 if I do switch. But for now, I am using K5's and Pentax lenses. None the less, I like the K30, especially in Blue.
Ben, great to hear some sense. Sick of bashing of cameras and brands for reasons purely of point scoring or just plain lack of knowledge.I have used Canon and have no trouble doing so again, chose Pentax because their strong points suit my style of shooting. I played with a friends Sony a77 the other day and was impressed with the tech, again could easily use it and enjoy just taking photos.I took photos with my phone yesterday because I had some spare time, so went for a walk.Quality glass on the front of any modern camera should yield excellent results. I found the review on the 650D fair and he seemed to like the sum total of the way the cam worked and its a fine camera in anyones hands. Yes the K30 is a great cam, esp at that price. Is it better than anything else? depends what you want it for an what matters to you.I would like to know why we are getting a rolling review on a cam theyve had for longer, however marketing wise it playing into Pentax's hands isn't it?
rockylui: Dear dpreview, I want to suggest that the Pentax K-30 should be classified as COMPACT DSLR instead of mid-level DSLR. I think that it will be more fair to it, as its street price is the same with D5100 and 650D. It seems very unfair and irrelevant for readers to have it compared with D7000 and 60D which are definitely a higher class in the market (in terms of price).Thanks!
Yes agreed, no matter how its scored its a damn fine camera at the price.I have a fair bit of trust that dpr will give it a fair trial. The K5 & Kx reviews scored pretty high.I think the x5, photokina revelations n the K30 marks a significant move forward especially with renewed retail approach to marketing.
Or is that just a compliment to it..................???
amicus70: Why do we have to read so much crap in the postings? Many sentences with nothing concerning the camera...
Just some replies to the most unuseful postings:A bridge-camera with a handle... because you could hold it a lot better then a common super-zoom. A bridge-camera with an electronic view-finder... because sometimes it's better than just a little monitor. A bridge-camera that looks like a dslr... why not? Perhaps there are people who like the appearance of a dslr, but don't want all the possibilities. I could continue endlessly.
I will not buy this camera, although I'm a Pentax-fan. But I would like a camera with much more possibilities (I hope a K-3 is coming). But some of you should be aware, that not your untechnical opinion on such a camera is decisive, but the opinion of the buyers.
FYI, Pentax is changing to retail again and many reporting seeing them in stored again and precisely why this camera is here on the market.
Tape5: Please tell me,
Did somebody ask for this camera to be manufactured?
These are the people who make the 645D. But products like these remind you how slowly things change. Affordable photography technology is falling way below Moore's Law for affordable computing. I genuinely thought by Photokina 2012 we would have ten M9 competitors at quarter the price. Instead cameras like this get churned out.
And I get the affordability issue but taken to a certain level, it means 'don't worry about quality because you are not paying for it'. And that's always a bit illogical, I don't care how little people pay for it.
All the leading brands sell these kind of cams. It's a sizeable market.I guess Pentax wants to be part of it. Sales and profit are what they are.Quality, well, do we know how poorly or well made and what sort of quality images it produces.Go to a tourist place and see those Panasonic's n Fujis everywhere.
Azfar: I can not, for the life of me, fathom this 'slr-like' class of cameras. Whats the point, really. They all have the small P&S sensors for crying out loud. Whats 'SLR-Like' about them...the body? then where does the 'bridge camera' gimmick come in? seriously. If anything, a large body must be required to house that zoom lenses but for all intent and purposes they should 'only' be called super zooms and nothing more.
Azfar,You and I Know that, but that's marketing.....
People who know no better think they look important and others who do know better, accept the benefits or inefficiency for what they are.Bridge camera was as far as I know because they bridged the gap between compacts and dslr.Superzoom is now given to the compact style cams with say 10 - 15 x zooms.Confused:....
People who know no better think they look important and others who do know better, accept the benefits for what they are.
IZO100: Everything is wrong with this camera !
another DOA from Pentax, amazing...
The camera is what it is......not saying its the best or even great. If you read the original comments, people are presuming and expressing their own ignorance. Random uneducated and inflammatory comments deserve shooting down.Read my comments in context and tell me I am blindly defending it. Not so, it could be a piece of junk, but chances are its a capable modern superzoom, not class leading, but then at 280 dollars its not expecting to be. It s most likely just plain good value.
Think yr getting your definition of trolls a wee bit mixed up .......
BTW, I used to shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon and Praktika. So long as it suits my needs. All good brands n products out there, I just don't go trolling n trying to antagonize people.
Lol, sounds like you love the Banter !Yes I shoot a Pentax, but I am not using rose tinted glasses or wearing Pentax underwear !I think Most all other cameras serve a purpose and are introduced for a purpose well beyond the average forum geeks personal interest.It's just another camera but that doesn't mean its apiece of junk or the death Nell of the company. So long as cameras sell at the right price and take photos is what the mass market wants, which is what this aimed at.
MDwebpro: No RAW capture?f3.1 - F5.9 lens?No Hi-Res, articulated LCD?No hot shoe?No stereo video sound?
Really? Seriously? Are we still living in 2010?
Sure AA batteries not everyone's cup of tea, but Sanyo eneloop are excellent performers and AA is available everywhere and all countries, so when your ni cad goes bad, what r you going to do ?It's saved a number of people n allowed them to get going again.
At that price ! Hope the drugs your on are worth it.Take a look at the price point of all the various Fuji models and what they offer. Have Pentax announced that this is a class leading high tech blow away the competition model ? No.It's their sole entry into the market with several new areas that Pentax haven't been in before.It will sell in low to average numbers enough to turn a profit or be a good test bed for multi burst low noise or fold out screens.I hope you don't buy it as it appears you will be terribly disappointed. A reasonable number of tourist, holiday maker, newbies will, especially if Pentax continue with its new policy of selling in high volume retail shops.
Another ignorant and pointless comment IZO100.Is it born of hate of Pentax ?It's not bringing any real new tech to the market but some to Pentax.Will it outsell Fuji or Panny or anyone else ? no but,does that mean its dead in the water ?So long as it sells enough to turn a profit and increase Pentax profile among non forum nit picking geeks, then its done a job hasn't it.Market strategy is more than what most of us consider in the ultimate camera.Maybe you wish to provide a decent argument or spread your ignorance elsewhere.