robbo d: Scary thing is weight..... k3 is already slightly heavier than a D750 body. Add battery grip, high quality glass and flash X2 when doing weddings ..... i hope its not too much of a tank.Might have to add a gym membership.!!!Pentax k3/k5 are small in form but theyre little heavy suckers ..... so if barney thinks it looks bulkier than D750 ... hmmmm
@joyclick.When you carry two fully loaded DSLR's over your shoulders for most of a full days wedding shoot, you'll know what I mean....Not the weekend warrior or holiday maker, it would be easy .....Don't assume my friend .....
joyclick: Will it beat any of the current flagships from Cannikon?
Beat .... yes to most of the above.Pentax have spent a long time and it's too darn important to them, plus they cannot afford a whole range of gear, so they'll throw the kitchen sink into this thing.Compare the k3 to anything of its like and feature set, build and bang for buck easily. K-s2 wifi is allegedly one of the better ones out there. FPS depends on sensor size but most Pentax DSLR's have high FPS.Sony sensor so DR is a given.AF will be interesting but theyve mostly caught up in body but the newer lenses help.
You need to define "beat"Canikon has great Full frame lens line up and systems but Pentax has a fair bit of gear already.It would seem that Pentax are going to throw a lot into this baby to make it a very high performance jack of all trades.Similar to D810 but not withdrawing certain functions of different cameras and cripplimg others to keep an expansive range.It should be mega ... if you know k5/k3 you'll know what we mean It will be a photographer tool.
T3: I just wonder if there's really enough of a market for another big, chunky FF DSLR at a time when FF mirrorless is coming into play. We're at the beginning of an inflection point in the camera market. Pentax may be a little too late to the game with this FF DSLR product line. I think it would have been a lot more interesting, and future-forward of Pentax to have introduced a FF mirrorless body instead.
Canikon still sell gazillions of them, pros' still use them, loads of asian tourists still use them .... while the small form factor of most mirrorless and 4/3rd are on the rise and highly desirable yet still not outselling DSLR's. There is still life left in these old dogs yet as there are many of us who like hands on buttons to get quick access while on the fly shooting which small form factor doesn't allow and requires endless scrolling thru menu's.Rather than arguing for one or other, both have their place and work well for their users.
After a recent advert in town for the Olympus OM-D EM5 MkII ..... or similar, Pentax shouldn't be outdone.So K1 FF 850 LX-D Mk VII .... this would mean an attachment to new and old, while giving obvious reference to FF, outdoing Nikon and not being outdone by 5D Mk3 .... just go straight to Mk 7 ..... simple
Scary thing is weight..... k3 is already slightly heavier than a D750 body. Add battery grip, high quality glass and flash X2 when doing weddings ..... i hope its not too much of a tank.Might have to add a gym membership.!!!Pentax k3/k5 are small in form but theyre little heavy suckers ..... so if barney thinks it looks bulkier than D750 ... hmmmm
Zvonimir Tosic: A camera of this calibre has "AUTO" on the main dial?I suggest erasing that, and adding "Canon user" mode. Or "m4/3 folk" mode.
Haha ... were you the class clown in school Zvonmir? Good to see your individual brand of humour back again.....
Marty4650: This could have been the camera of the year in 2008!
.... when i said "as competitive" I should have clarified I meant in terms of capability, not sales figures....
Given modern tech with R&D there is much still to come for Mirrorless and DSLRS. Both are as relevant as each other....
And I cant see hordes of people changing camp because the mythical beast has arrived. I would agree that it's not going to see massive following in a massive hurry
Wow, funny and relative comment ..... Not everyone's life revolves around 4/3rds and more than a chance are it'll be as competitive with other FF manufacturers which most pro's still use, especially when the form factor is same as APS-C.Just cruising by for a little flame bait ???
robbo d: Bizarre Pentax way releasing such a headline product .... I guess it's creating talk.wifi .... tickArtic screen .... never thought id say it .... tickSony FF sensor .... tickeither 36 / 42 with rumour of pixel binning to 24mp and pixel shift as well ? could be a very very versatile unit. Combo of a K-S2 and K3 but with some serious steroids, I like it !!!Timing will be good for me .... but the question is ... whether to be an early adopter or not ??
@photomedium ..... ????Pixel binning to 24 giving you smaller file sizes and potentially better low light performance or even video use.Pixel shift from 36/42 will give you mega image quality for landscapes.Less lenses ??? You don't know much about Pentax lens availability and compatability ??
tassienick: I realise that this is probably five years late, and SLR's are obsolete, and Pentax is dying a slow death, and so on and so forth, but for some reason this has got me strangely excited anyway...
31mm, 43mm and 77mm LTD's, an OVF, and a round-the-world ticket. Mmmmmmmmmmm.
haha ... yeah we've heard it all before haven't we ..... i think the whole dslr vs mirrorless thing is a joke ... its a block with a shutter button that produces an image and this one may well blur the lines given some of the talk, but it will no doubt be a pro capable tool. I think Pentax must be a cat ... with nine lives given the amount of Pentax is dying predictions !!!
NFC as well ? keeps looking better. I purchased a flu card but getting it to work on my surface pro seems to be a mission.... it seems to have all the ingredients i'm after. Thought the D750 was my option but this thing could be my perfect camera......
Bizarre Pentax way releasing such a headline product .... I guess it's creating talk.wifi .... tickArtic screen .... never thought id say it .... tickSony FF sensor .... tickeither 36 / 42 with rumour of pixel binning to 24mp and pixel shift as well ? could be a very very versatile unit. Combo of a K-S2 and K3 but with some serious steroids, I like it !!!Timing will be good for me .... but the question is ... whether to be an early adopter or not ??
10thumbs: The T6s is $100 more than a Pentax K-3. Other than a touch screen, why would anyone purchase this over a Pentax. Even if you owned an extensive canon lens collection is of no use on this model.
If I owned a Canon Lens collection I'd be using Canon bodies ... I use Pentax, for weddings too, but give me either I take photo's. Use a K3 with grip and 50-135 lens for a day with a metz flash and you've done a workout. Pentax = small but heavy.Canon = big but heavy if you use a 5D...same difference. Never seen a Canon fall apart cos its plastic ..... still tough.Canon don't need to lead cos they own the market.Going from 16 to 24 mp isn't all good.... all those extra mp means you need 50% higher shutter speeds and a whole lot more noise. Canon knows this and are rightly slow to increase because most engineers know more mp isnt always the answer, just a marketing game.I'm not a big K3 24mp fan, my 16mp K5IIs is a very forgiving and stable camera, thats what you need when shooting quickly and in low light, thats what Canon knows best, stable, consistant cameras (not necessarily low light ) that can do the job without fuss.... if i wasnt shooting Pentax i'd be shooting Canon
I think full reviews are becoming things of the past people ..... these hands on previews are more and more as much as we will most likely see.DP News is the new title ... its more snap shots of info rather than in depth stuff nowadays.Nevertheless this gives us enough insight from existing experience with K5 series and K3 to know they've probably turned what was a fast, twitchy handling little sports car .... into a better handling beast by way of tech.The 24 mp sensor is a handful in low light and low shutter speeds, so the increased SR and sensor shift resolution is a good way of steadying up the camera and squeezing the best out of the sensor, which is typical Pentax style.The K5IIs is currently my go to for low light, low shutter speeds hand held, but when I can keep it under 800-1600 ISO and keep the shutter up, the 24mp res is pretty amazing.
JustDavid: Somebody should count the users who use internal flash for wireless trigger and those who will have a great fun using the GPS driven additional functions. My personal opinion is that Ricoh got it right. This was always supposed to be more of a field camera. Now it is the perfect field camera.
..... and if you shoot your kids birthday parties..... you need a K3 ??I think the K3 is designed as a serious tool for field, weddings etc, sure if you want to take it to a kids birthday party by all means, help yourself, but it's not what its designed for. Use an entry level or mid range or a mobile phone ....
I think these new tweaks will be a major usability plus.Having just taken delivery of a k3, I can say that it requires s bit of finesse in lower shutter speeds or lesser light. The noise and blur with all those pixels is a problem unless you drive it carefully.The k5iis is a very forgiving and usable beast, these changes will make the k3 series akin to its older brother
iudex: Eagerly waiting for the complete review. The competition already posted the review and it was very positive, enthusiastic about the camera:http://www.ephotozine.com/article/pentax-k-s2-dslr-review-27269#VerdictHowever the reviewer is a Pentax user himself, so I better wait for an impartial review by DPR.
I will be surprised if the full review is not the typical affair, which is in the main, pretty good, but sprinkled with the usual un professional negative remarks about Pentax. The marking system is accurate to within about 10%, where accepting reviewer to reviewer and human factors, they do tend to give Canon's high scores in certain areas. I would also love to see a Pole done on what the average buyer thinks about video importance in relation to overall decision on purchase or use .....So not having a touch screen and as good video quality will affect the overall score a little too much for my liking.Love to be proven wrong and I will continue to say that it's not really worth Dpi reviewing Pentax anymore as they are more so akin to be called DP News .... not DP Review
koolbreez: From looking at the comparisons with the D5300, the only useful thing upgraded is the battery life. They both use the same sensor, and processing engine, so no difference in image quality. They both have the same resolutions, although the high end is listed now as regular instead of extended, which actually means no difference. Buffers are the same, shutter speads are the same. The GPS has been removed, and can't be considered an upgrade, even if people didn't use it. So how can this review state that the D5500 is an upgrade in every respect, when only one useful item has been upgraded? A better grip? There never was a problem with the old grip contributing to shaky images...lolol. This simply looks like a review to sell cameras, not print the real truth. As more time passes DPReview gets less and less reliable.
I hear you about practical aspects of photo taking as opposed to new tech for the sake of it and generally agree. A camera designed as an image making tool is more use to serious photographers than a touchscreen, where Canon scored highly and strange comments about another brand still lagging behind in that respect ... I still have to use the tip of my finger to press a button or a touchscreen! So which camera takes better images? The one with the touch screen?OTOH some of the new tech is useful for the whole process of work flow such as WiFi & Olympus' IS pretty nice for moving targets.There's tech for techs sake, tech which is in it's infancy and will be improved like Olympus' 40mp shift sensor which Ricoh are working on and won't put in until it makes a real difference and tech which helps making good photo's easier.But there's nothing like a nice camera grip, a good sensor, nice bright viewfinder, a good processor and a reliable AF system just to start with...