alexzn: Too big and bulky to be a real smartphone. Its better to cary a regular smartphone and a high-end compact when you need to shoot quality. Face it, modern smartphone cameras are good enough for 90% of routine pictures. the 10% are not worth the tradeoffs of carrying a thick monster of a phone.
What makes you think "routine pictures" (what the heck are those anyway??) shouldn't be the highest quality? No one wants to carry two devices and your "modern" i phone/ galaxy/ note smartphone with its obsolete tiny sensor doesn't cut it anymore. Why would you be against progressing to better quality imaging?
Jake64: 41 mp on a sensor the size of a pinhead...grrrreeeaat
This "pinhead" sensor is over 4 times larger than anything from apple or samsung.
RichRMA: Even though 200 ISO looks worse than 6400 on my Pentax APS-sensor, it's still an interesting experiment in high resolution/small sensor size.
Unlike apple and samsung phones you have total control over iso. So lower iso to 100 for less noise duh. The sensor in this phone is over 4 times larger than anything from apple or samsung....but of course not quite as large as APS-C. but who wants to lug around a large clunky APS-C camera 100% of the time?
jondh: Poor image quality. My Iphone4 gives me better image and sharper with its 5MP sensor
Simply impossible the iphone sensor is less than a quarter of the size of this phone's sensor. 5 times more film means 5 times clearer more detailed image, end of story.
MaxiMax: For this sensor size, there is absolutely no DOF (aperture) control and no bokeh effect... As with any camera phone, It is just a snapshot camera aimed for image documentation and not artistic photography.
ummm....the lens is fixed at its largest aperture f2.2 for the shallowest DOF 100% of the time. Please do your homework before posting falsehoods.
schaki: Dammit Nokia...Details gets ruined by bad NR.
So don't use dumbed down auto mode (that ramps up iso creating noise) and lock the iso to 100 for noise free images. Unlike Apple and Samsung phones, you have total control with this phone.
Combatmedic870: Windows 8 really....is not all that great. I prefer android and OIS over windows anyday.
@ Aliquis, fstops
Samsung down nearly 14 percent in the past month with downgrades galore. YTD 21 percent down and Apple bleeding too. Apple and Samsung just are not cool anymore; time for the hipsters & their sheep move on to something new and fresh and from the look of Microsoft and Nokia charts, Windows could be it. Interesting to look back at Nokia chart since 1996, see the BIG highs about every 8 years? I see a mountain coming...Nokia's turn.
@swparsI only wish I had big fat paychecks from Steve Ballmer but you are wrong. I'm a Symbian guy that needs a proper file manager with full microSD support. So the 808 serves me just fine with no plans to switch to WP. There goes my career with MS...
But the vast, vast majority of Samsung stock price fallen hard recently due to low SG4 sales and Apple is resorting to recycling aluminum cans (err...I mean recycling old outdated iphones). Windows Phone, in contrast, is gaining traction and critical mass is near.
Sasparilla: It appears there is a serious bug affecting the 808, basically the phone, text and data connection freezes (although the user looking at the phone won't be able to tell since it looks like a good connection etc.) - but the user won't be able to receive phone calls, text messages etc.. This happens after several hours and requires a reboot to get things working again....until it happens again.
Nokia has said they are working on a fix, but until one is out it could be a very bad phone experience.
Bit of a bummer, as I was close to getting one, once its fixed it'll go back on my list....get it fixed Nokia.
This has been fixed in a small software update. Issue resolved.
dgmessenger: Owned this phone all but of one day. Sent it back. The pictures are simply astounding for a device this size! However, I hated using this phone! The UI was slow and clumsy. The low screen rez was also disheartening.
I'm completely baffled why Nokia didn't build this phone around Android! The mimic attempt was just unworkable! I guess, just too many cost to consider.
Screen rez is just only one factor--how about color saturation and readability in bright sun? The Nokia 808's screen looks much nicer because the colors are not washed out and faded. And yes I own one see my posts in forums.
Face it, all other camphone fail due to low quality pics--THE most important feature of a camphone.