17 hours ago
 |
R Thornton
Joined on
Feb 2, 2012
|
   |
|
Connect with dpreview
|
More of a Lunacy than Lunar...
Like with other manufacturers, the reason they are going down now is not the technology but marketing. Olympus are going out of their ways to avoid competing, and instead, they are inventing tricks to defend their price points using "new" products as an excuse. In the process, they are not producing anything spectacular, and spectacular is what it takes to live on right now. What some call the "global crisis" is actually just real life...
A winner? I am afraid this nice-looking camera will also loose money for Oly (just check their annual and quarterly business reports)... It seems like either targetting the wrong crowd or the wrong pricepoint ...
Funny how this reminds me of Olympus Mju film cameras that I still own and happily shoot every now and then. Sure, compromise upon compromise - but in a good way! If only Panasonic has bothered to impart it swift perfomance like it once did with surprisingly fast AF on FX10, it will be a joy to use and a winner for sure.
With a fast pancake prime lens, say eq. 35/1.8, I can see how it could appeal to streetshooters. Or hang it around your neck on a strap and you are all set to painlessly explore tourist sights. There are many people out there who insist on small, but do not care for the usual limitations of "lesser" products, shutter lag or slow AF being the most notorious...
maxola67: It's less the Panas-GH3!
What's next Canon step relating to lenses size?
I remember Oly made the same mini- DSLR(e-420) with no success.
Ever seen Pentax pancakes?
Nikon have gone completely mad! Defiantly doing too little too late and trying to cover it up by charging ridiculuous sums while balancing on the verge of the abysss - this can only end in one way. After 40 years with Nikon, I bought Canon 5 D Mk III last year. I've kept my Nikons but with every further step they take they pressure me to consider selling all my Nikon stuff and say farewell! How much more stupid can this get?
I know exactly what kind of visual experience I want my images to convey in technical terms, and I do not give a rat's ass about whether I get it from a small or large sensor, this or that technology, so long as I can carry it around in one hand. In the last 13 years I have used 25 different digital cameras (type and manufacturer) and even when I was content with their function, I have never been quite happy. I am increasingly using analog cameras of forty years ago and some BW film, and lo! - the happiness is returning! And I am not a nostalgic type. This is something the contemporary manufacturers should try to analyze and explain...
OMG, it is a camera!
For a second I mistook it for an Iphone rear sticker...
Marty4650: This looks like a nice camera, but the MILC market is getting too crowded right now. M4/3 has the lenses, and with the new Sony sensors it will be hard to top. Sony NEX is pretty well entrenched too. Fuji claimed the high ground, going for the high end faux Leica retro niche. And you can never dismiss Nikon and Canon, simply for their huge marketing ability.
I'm afraid Samsung is going nowhere, except perhaps in their home market.
And it's a pity too... because this really looks like a nice camera. There are just too many players in a very crowded small slice of the market now.
Agree100%. Samsung are showing time and again they can make cameras. At the same time, they are showing they cannot compete. Why bother tagging along?
georgec: Panasonic LX7 with a Sony RX100 sensor will be a killer cam.
dylanbarnhart: How much bigger is RX-100 than LX-7 right now?
zinedi: Are the big players Ca/Ni/So so stupid or deaf and blind? Don't they see the way that Fuji shows in mirorless field? For cell-phones and similar toys there's Apple and Korea toy companies. Have you really understand what PHOTOGRAPHERS want?
Try think about this :
- big sensor => excellent high ISO IQ
- fast prime lens and zoom = > excellent IQ
- excellent viewfinder
- through 100 years' proved handling design - range-finder style
...
It's so simple.
Exactly! And pricing it in the D7000 territory means it must outgun D7000 to make sense. No chance in hell! Looks aside, what is the point?
The ugly looks – as if they went extra out of their way to save on any design effort – is actually not what condemns V2, it is the overall package. If it is to be a second system, for less hassle than a DSLR, then it better be similarly if not equally capable and less expensive. This is neither, a niche product at best. The controversy that arose immediately upon its introduction is a testimony to yet another of a number of disappointments coming from Nikon in the last two or three years. And these flies in the ointment keep piling up. When you are a giant and disappoint or, say, do not quite satisfy the market one time, they expect more the next time to make up for the wait and anguish. After a while, good or even excellent will not cut it any more: what everyone expects now is nothing short of spectacular! Is this spectacular by today's standards? You did it to yourself, Nikon…
Like Arnold said: "...one ugly motherf*cker!"
The whole crap is not worth spitting on.
DStudio: It will be interesting to see how well this price tag works - this was about the max I figured they'd go. After seeing Sony's price for the A99, and thinking about the realities of the value of the dollar to the yen, I realized there was no way they'd be down near the $1500 price some had hoped for. The higher prices in US$ we're seeing for many cameras and lenses are not merely fickle decisions by Japanese camera makers - unfortunately, they reflect the realities of a devalued dollar and an economy that's worse than many Americans want to admit.
But back to the photographic side, it's great to see Nikon make full frame now accessible to a larger audience - it will be interesting to see how the competition prices similar products during the next year.
Yep, US just broke the record: more then 16 trillion dollars debt! Compared to 15 trillion dollars GDP! Compared to the entire world's GDP of about 60 trillion dollars! Simply put: the USA is stealing money from the world, spending way more than it earns and making up for the difference by waging war and plundering. Go USA!
This is the big news? After yesterday's announcements by Sony? Fart in a bucket, no more.
Kudos to Sony for making all the online "it-can't-be-done" pundits with their registration distances and laws of physics and all the parrot talk look clueless now! Learn from their example and beware, ye phony over-price defenders!
This product is completely uncalled for...
Yaaaaaawwwwn...