Canon executives need to understand there is a thing called credibility, that no amount of "marketing" can buy. It's hard to gain credibility, but it can also be lost very quickly.
a Nikon D400
Onur Otlu: So Leica is one-upping Nikon's "pure photography" Df, which omitted the movie mode? :)
either that or just like the omitted IR filter on the M8 perhaps they forgot to put in a rear display and now offer an ISO wheel to make up for it
NancyP: Looks like an excellent birding camera for those who are not buying the 1DX and longer lenses. Plenty of pixels on the small bird with this camera, and I do believe I will be able to get more mileage out of the EF 400 f/5.6L without and with 1.4x TC. The price is right for this focal-length-limited specialty application, and for many other sports shooters.
agree, might retire my old 1D4 for one of these.
D1N0: Next to that bottom anything looks good.
yep, classic marketing mistake, nobody will remember the product
great but some of us also shoot at other focal lengths besides 35 and 50.
RunStrom: These high noise tests are pretty sad, if you are any good as a photographer you will use a tripod. If you want to test a real life situation - give one person a cheap Canon or Nikon APS-C with a reasonable 50mm lens - AND a TRIPOD. Give the other person the Sony A7S (handheld) and a 50mm Sony Lens - then do your midnight shoot. There is no action motion here - so shoot at any speed and setting - the end result is what counts. Each photographer then processes the raw files, and posts them with 100% crops. I'd bet the tripod mounted cameras would produce a better final product. If you really want to set the cat amongst the pigeons - introduce another photographer with a micro 3/4 or Sigma Foveon sensor camera (on a tripod) with a similar lens and really see what a differnce a Tripod makes.
point taken about situations with very low light where tripods can't be used, but sensor sensitivity alone won't save the day, focussing capability and suitable lenses are also required, neither of which is fully available from Sony yet, I tried using my 7R in an outdoor night time festival hand held (big crowds) and left dissapointed
nice coffee, awful image quality
Lux Painter: Darn, I used to write down the location of a photo on the lens with a permanent marker. Well, at least, now I can save a plate when I like to have a salad with oil and vinegar dressing out in the field.
But on a serious note, the only test I would be interesting in would be salt water spray.
samhain: Shady.I wonder if Steve huff will comment on it...
he has addressed this, getting stuck into all us 'leica haters" in DPR.
so it's effectively a $300 kit lens priced 5 times that amount on the claim of superior optical design? Misleading at best, unethical quite frankly, I think the marketing department who clearly now run things at Leica scored a careless own goal.
Richard Franiec: Nice design, attention to detail and use of quality materials in the manufacturing process of the camera body are all great attention grabbers, however the truth is that they don't always create a better tool to do the job, especially when electronics are involved.What we see with Leica is that they are desperately trying to market pride of craftsmanship and mysticism of the brand name at exuberant prices.The whole manufacturing process in today's broadly available technology (explained in pictures of the article) is nothing that cannot be achieved in China, Vietnam or Romania. Most likely with less manual labor involved if deburring process is carried out by the same machine tool which does the "carving" of solid block of aluminum, not by hand of highly paid worker.Obviously, limited production runs cost more per unit but justifying the final price by extraordinary skills and experience needed to do the job is just a plain hyperbole in my mind.
I would guess that all the components, much like the lens, are made elsewhere, possibly Asian jobbing factories. All Leica do is assemble it locally, thus claiming the craftsmanship tag for their marketing. Hopefully function will equate form. While I will always regret parting with my M8, the reality is that my actual output was no different to using other kit. I just looked like an ageing hipster taking the photos.
AndreSJ: I word question. LENSES?
agree, my A7r is waiting for them too
based on other recent Canon responses to new products from less risk averse manufacturers (think GX1, M and SL1) rather than create a new line I wouldn't be surprised if Canon responds by stuffing a FF 18 mpx sensor into a small proven consumer friendly design like a D700 size (without flip out screen) - so yes let them eat FF cake
for that price they should throw in a roll of digital film
Stealthy Ninja: I live in Hong Kong and honestly these pictures (though very nice) aren't too special. Most people could go out and take these photos pretty easily if they lived here. In fact on his page number 8 looks very similar to a place nearby where I live.
They look pretty nice though, don't get me wrong.
agree, there's a restaurant in Ocean terminal which has a couple of similar ones as wall decoration. Inspired me to go out and do the same last time I visited there...had a hell of a time correcting the lens distortion!
timedrun: M43 new cams, and even more their lenses, are not worth what they ask for them. I just saw that the oly 45mm f1.8, which is in their cheap range, has been "reduced" to $399. That is a skank imo. Samsung sell the exact same spec lens for NX at $199.
true and while lenses hold their relative value, your $1000 body is worth 300 bucks or less in 12 months time.
snegron2: If I could turn back the clock and start all over again I would have bought a Leica rangefinder with three lenses instead of the gazillion cameras and lenses I own...
how absolutely true
is that LR5 or the old 4 included? I doubt the people that read this site are "the market" this camera/luxury accessory / is aimed at.
so her profile pic is a selfie..nice job (cute too)