brn: The article claims it's fully interactive. Given that description, I'm anticipating you can actually operate some features of the virtual camera. That doesn't appear to be the case. It just seems that each virtual button will simply launch a video.
Also, according to the video segment that I was allowed to see "The AF/MF button is the button you would use to backfocus". That doesn't seem like a good way to lead off when talking about AF/MF. I hope he gets a lot more in depth, but I suspect he merely shows you how to backfocus and not much more.
I'm a bit disappointed that DPReview would promote this via an "article". Let Gary buy an ad.
Regarding the description of the AF/MF button as "the button you would use to backfocus" - that's just the kind of thing that annoyed me about his A77II tutorial videos.
My impression is that manual focus is something he rarely uses, so features like AF/MF toggle, or DMF override of AF, are things that he considers barely worth mentioning. The same is true about certain flash settings and other features that aren't to his taste. In some cases it's clear he hasn't even read the manual to find out what they do.
Fong's good at describing the way he sets up and uses his camera, but to me that's not what a good tutorial should do. It should explaining how the all the features work, not dismiss some as pointless, and tell people to ignore/reconfigure them because he doesn't see their value.
That's the difference between Fong's videos and Gary Friedman's superior Sony ebooks; Friedman accurately explains every feature and setting, not just the ones that he thinks are worth using.
ddtwenty: No Image Stabilizer?
What year is this? 1970?
Petroglyph, I'm talking about the A77II (A-mount SLT), rather than the A7II (FE-mount MILC).
The A7II does allow you to manually enter a focal length for lenses, so would provide stabilisation with this 135mm (although for some reason only 3-axis stabilisation, rather than the 5-axis version that works with native lenses).
Now that Sony are including this feature in some of their cameras, it'd be nice if it was added to the A77II with a firmware update, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
I hope these are better than his video tutorials for the A77II.
I paid to view when I first bought my A77II, hoping that they'd help me get to grips with its unusual features. Unfortunately I wasn't very impressed, as certain features were ignored, and some information was simply wrong.
To be fair to Fong, when it comes to features he actually uses himself he's quite comprehensive and helpful. The problem is that he focuses on his personal preferences, as if they're inherently the right way to do things, and can be misleading when talking about anything else.
For example, he told viewers to only use AF-A and ignore the A77II's DMF option, dismissing it as unimportant without explaining what it does. Later on he seemed to have it confused with the AF Range Limiter, thinking that that, not DMF, was an aid for manual focusing. Some of the information he gave about certain flash modes was wrong as well.
I expected something a bit more complete and accurate when paying for a tutorial.
Unfortunately the stabilisation in Sony A-mount cameras won't work because there's no way to tell the camera the lens' focal length. It's a shame that Sony don't let it be set manually, even on recent A-mount cameras like the A77II.
I suppose it would be possible to glue on an AF confirm chip, like the ones on eBay that people use with lens adapters. I'm not sure I'd want to try that with a relatively expensive new lens though, no matter how much I'd like to have stabilisation.
I wish Panasonic had included a tilt screen. I'm looking to replace my Nikon 1 and that would have made this an easy choice.
As it is, it'll be very hard to decide between this, an RX100III, or one of the smaller interchangeable lens M4/3 cameras.
The manual shutter speed and aperture controls on this camera make it a very tempting prospect even with that big omission.
I'm fond of my bargain priced J1 with its 18.5mm f1.8 lens, but there's no way I'd upgrade to a much more expensive model considering the extremely limited selection of lenses.
To me a 10-30mm F3.5-5.6 lens isn't very appealing on a 1" sensor camera. Where are the fast zooms? Why isn't there a macro lens?
Adapted lenses aren't really a solution as they add to the size and remove the autofocus speed advantage.
maxeythecat: Sorry but GPS belongs in your car, not your camera. ' Nuff said.
A natural history internet circle I belong to asks that the location where pictures were taken be included with any images submitted.
A year after taking the shot, I'm not necessarily going to remember the location of a butterfly I snapped while walking in the countryside. The sky behind a bird in flight doesn't generally contain any famous landmarks to use as a reference for its location.
If nothing else a GPS would save some detective work, like having to look through landscape shots taken on the same day to work out where I was.
new boyz: I have no complaint about using pre flash as focus assist. When focus lamp is needed, you're doing flash photography anyway. Serves as red eye reduction mechanism as well.
My ring flash doesn't have a focus assist lamp, making one on the camera useful occasionally.
The biggest issue, though, is that using the flash generally doesn't work that well. At least that's my experience of this feature on the A57.
photogalleryonline: Does it allow manual control of the Iris (Apetrure) during Video shooting? How does the 12 fps work compared to the A77 which had some terrible blackout (image review) while shooting at speed thus impossible to track/pan anything at speed?
Whether there's still a slideshow when shooting at faster speeds is definitely one of the things I want to know.
I've been looking at various hand-on tests, and despite them talking about the high burst speed, none have made it clear whether this old SLT problem has been solved.
cgarrard: Bummer, no dedicated AF assist lamp. That's kind of a big thing to me that I always appreciate. Can live without but, why take it off, did it really cost that much to keep it on Sony? These little nagging decisions just p$ss off enthusiasts for the A-Mount. Sorry.
My A57 uses the flash in that way too. In my experience it doesn't work very well.
It seems strange to me that my £100 compact has this feature but a £1000 semi-pro camera like the A77II doesn't...
ppapageorgiou: This camera is at a point on the product line that's now pointless. Who needs a high-end APS-C camera? They should discontinue the A77, revise the A65 instead, and maybe introduce a cheaper full frame like an A85.
APS-C definitely has an advantage for wildlife photography.
Even with a long lens it's often necessary to heavily crop when shooting a bird in flight or a skittish little creature.
At the same distance, with the same lens, a 24mp APS-C sensor will provide a much higher resolution cropped image than a 24mp full frame like the A99.
email@example.com: Magnets and digital cameras?Nope.
Unless you're still using 3.5" floppy disks, I think the days when you needed to worry about putting weak little magnets near your electronics are long gone.
Not that I'll be buying this when I have perfectly convenient pockets to store my lens caps...
bawbaw: These will be useless on digital RF with the deep rear element design, even the modern voigt wideangles are really bad on the M9/240. I was pretty sad when I saw the voigt 21mm on my M9, that having been my goto lens on film.
For about the same price there is better and more sensible L39/M mount wides ,used zeiss zm 21mm for one.
Like the Petzval before. It's cheaper to buy an original used and leave the disappointments to the cool kids that have made the lomography guys snake oil well grow deeper and deeper. Keeping in mind pre lomography these were about £30 on ebay if that.
I tried use a vintage L39 lens of similar design on a Nikon 1.
Despite the adapter ring adding some depth, the large rear element prevented it from fully screwing in. With the fixed internal filter protecting the sensor there's very little space inside for a lens like that to fit.
Fortunately that old lens cost me about $20, not $650...
Michel J: Why an E-mount when we can have a real DSLR with A-mount for the same price?
I doubt that this camera, with contrast detect autofocus, matches the focus speed of an SLT/DSLR...
Paul1974: The physical dimensions of the lens are clearly smaller, so that seems like a good thing to me. Not everybody wants ultimate image quality. Some people value the ease of use of a small camera.
Surely if size is a priority to someone they'd buy one of the genuinely small mirrorless cameras, not a "DSLR" style body that just happens to have a smaller than usual kit zoom?
Steve Throndson: Very nice photo, and perfect for the challenge theme. I can't believe you got 'point-five' votes. I voted four stars because it was clearly the best in the challenge. (well, the 'fork in the road' was pretty good too)
As for the 0.5 votes... I've seen been plenty of other challenge winners received the same kind of voting. I suspect that there are often one or two entrants who vote "tactically" by giving other entries a low score.
Of course it could just be a matter of personal taste, and there was genuinely something they hated about the winning shots, who knows...
My J1 is just a secondary camera that I stick in my jacket pocket when I don't want to lug around my Sony A57, so big $1000 zooms don't really appeal to me. Unlike pretty much everyone else (it seems to me) I am interested in the new 10-30mm though.
I don't care about power zoom, but the greater zoom range compared with the 11-27.5mm (1mm at the wide end really does make a difference), the integrated lens cap (convenient for quick, one-handed, point-and-shoot snaps on the street), and the smaller size compared with the old 10-30mm (which renders the J1 a lot less pocket friendly), make it a nice kit lens upgrade.
Of course I'd be more excited if it was f2.8, but as long as it's sharp wide open I'll be happy enough.
SteveY80: I'm surprised that the EVF has been downgraded compared with the NEX 6...
I guess it's probably the same 1.4mp model that's in the RX10, and by all accounts there's nothing wrong with that, but I'd have thought that they'd be showing off their best technology in this camera.
That seems strange to me. I've played with an NEX 6 and used an A77 and didn't notice any problems with refresh rate or lag. Plenty of people use higher resolution EVF cameras like the A65 and A77 for shooting sport or birds in flight.
I'm surprised that the EVF has been downgraded compared with the NEX 6...
This is the way a camera should be controlled.
Shutterspeed, aperture ... and ISO.
The three primary parameters of exposure.
Why did it take this long for camera makers to ditch PASM, and place ISO alongside shutter speed and aperture? This is much simpler and straight forward.
Thank you Fujifilm!This will be my next camera.
I'm much more familiar with the conventional PASM controls of my Sony DSLR/SLT cameras, but I agree that this seems like a faster, simpler and more elegant layout.
With Fuji's controls there's no need to check a display to view settings, and everything important can be immediately changed without switching modes.
It's a shame that the lack of aperture rings on most modern lenses would make it impractical for other camera makers to copy it completely.