Alfred A: I can't understand why 808 owners keep bashing this phone. If you think this is not the phone upgrade from your 808, then you do not need to upgrade it. As simple as that.
It makes me think that some 808 users simply want to prove that their phone is the best in terms of camera. So when Nokia come out new phone , they will keep bashing it. This already happened when Nokia announced 1020.
IMHO, both 808 and 1020 have pros & cons, you just need to find out which phone more suitable for you. But I doubt anyone will buy a Symbian phone now.
I don't think the 1020 was designed to be an upgrade to the 808. Frankly, the market is not big enough. No, the 1020 was designed to have greater market appeal, and therefore it had to make certain concessions that were not made for the 808. In particular, the image sensor size, which has resulted in significantly smaller physical pixels. The other missing attributes (no SD expansion, no HDMI and no 8MP) are not as critical for the mass market, else Nokia would've included them.
Personally, if it weren't for the shrinking Symbian ecosystem, I'd probably go for a second hand 808. But if I were to invest over the next 2 years, knowing that Symbian support is on the verge of waning...I think the 1020 is a very compelling device.
blue hour: I'd rather use messenger pigeons insteadthan to buy a phone with a non-removable battery.
Actually, Nokia's hardware designs, even for those with sealed batteries, allow for maintenance access without the risk of physical deformation of materials (i.e. HTC One's sealed/pressed construction). My venerable N8's battery is also sealed. I can easily change it out in 2 minutes with a T5 torx and the loosening of 2 small screws.
Digital Suicide: How was with 808 camera start up times? Was it faster?
Yes, the 808 sports a dedicated scaling chip for the camera. It also is defaulted to 5MP only. If you select full resolution, it also takes longer to process. IMO, the 1020 should've been set to 5MP only (as default) and have left the dual mode with additional full rez as an option. I think this would've avoided the issue for the most part. However, the "New Way to Zoom" marketing campaign heavily promoted the post shot zoom capability. I suspect the engineers were forced to keep the default in dual mode for this reason.
ozgoldman: The problem with mobile phone cameras is they are almost all set on auto. I have used my wife's 41mp. mob phone and found even the focus to be a little 'wild'.They are not for me. I'll stick to the A77 thanks.
Photato: Good quality but slow.Bigger pixels would have made this camera/phone unbeatable.Kind of understand the notion of zoom/crop. A 10MP count should have been better.
Still good job Nokia!
Then you misunderstood the purpose of oversampling. At 5MP, the virtual pixels are 3.2 microns in size. As you zoom, those virtual pixels get smaller until, at full zoom, the virtual pixels are the same size as the physical pixels. You can set the phone to only take the default 5MP photos, which really benefit from the oversampling. As well, the shots are much quicker when full rez is deselected. To note, the 5MP photos take up a frugal ~1MB of storage each. A 10MP sensor without oversampling would not be capable of loss-less zoom. In other words, at full zoom (~3x) the resolution would be significantly reduced due to conventional cropping.
Prestidigitator: There is nothing new with this crApple iFruitcake. The iFan-gheys would still buy it regardless. For true innovation just take a look at the Lumia 920 and PureView 808.
Full file access across multiple drivesUSB On-The-GoBluetooth 4.0Real and full multi-taskingDLNAHDMI output (including BiG Screen with Bluetooth remote control)Panorama (for ages)Std microUSB charging
It's not the OS that is lacking innovation. Quite the contrary. It was the UI that trailed the competition, but now with Belle FP2...this too is a moot point. What Symbian lacks are Apps...but when it comes to the top 100 most used apps...the platform has most of them...or a very competitive proxy. Total apps is around 70,000...still plenty in my book.