rsjoberg: From the comments it appears that this is not a camera for everyone, but it certainly is a camera for me. Besides the obvious use as a carry everywhere camera I can see two uses for it that make it ideal.
The first is that I can use it to cover the wide end when I go light with my D7000, 35mm and 60mm lens. The second is as a supplemental digital camera when I'm out shooting with my 4x5 field camera.
I see the limitations as simply part of the package. I carried a Rollei 35 as a backup camera back in the day. Later I picked up a Contax G with the lovely Zeiss lenses, but it couldn't fill the Rollei's place because of the size —same with the Leica M3 before that. As far as the cost goes, I'll wait until I see a full test and can get some kind of discount, but I've blown so much on photography over the years that $1000 more or less just doesn't seem like that big a deal.
Finally, a comment that makes sense. It's tiring having to read all of the comment bashing by the younger crowd that doesn't understand the need for such a camera.
mauijohn: This is a new tech it may not work to all camera like my canon s100 that wont last five hours of uploading.any site here to check camera compatiblities with this eye fi thing. FIVE HOURS??! nevermind.
It'll work with your camera, the s95 and s90 as well. Takes less than a second to transfer each jpeg over to my Samsung Galaxy phone. Love it.
I don't think they are planning on actually selling these like hotcakes. It's probably more of a commemorative debut of their first camera design resulting from their new partnership with Sony. I'd expect to see some more affordable designs from them soon.
acidic: I wonder if one can "beam" images from the camera to a handset. No sense paying for another data plan if this capability exists and one is using an Android phone running 4.1.
The other option is to pay for a tethering plan for the handset (still cheaper than paying for an additional device), which will allow the camera to connect via wifi.
Because let's face it... very few people are going to use this in lieu of a phone. Those who do will be using Skype or GVoice or some other VoiP service app and a headset.
If you purchase an Eye-fi SD card, you can do exactly that. Pair it to your phone, pop the card in any camera of your liking and let the magic happen. It creates an ad hoc WI FI connection directly to your phone and automatically transfers the images. I use one and it's pretty darn awesome. The best thing about it is that you're not limited to a specific camera. BTW, it only creates a WiFi connection once you've taken a new picture. It transfers the image/s to your phone, then disconnects the connection.
Certainly beats having to purchase a new camera...is on amazon for around $40 for the 4GB version.
David Zamora: What I think will happen in the next couple years is that we will be seeing 3g/4g + wi-fi integrated cameras, but at no cost to the consumer. The camera companies know its silly ask consumers to pay for yet another data plan just for a camera. What I predict will happen is that camera companies will provide 3g/4g for free to the consumer, but the bandwidth will be throttled and the 'free' 3g/4g will most likely have ads on the screen when uploading to the phones 'social apps', eg. Face Book, Twitter, ETC. Similar to how Amazon offers free 3g on their ereaders (with ads).
I think this method will be common place within several years...and will make make way for some great photo sharing on social media sites as well. I'm pretty stoked as to where this is all going!
@ Suave Actually, this already exists and I use it now. It's called the Eye-Fi card, with built in Wi Fi. After pairing it to your phone, any time you take a shot from your DSLR or point and shoot, it will immediately pair camera-to-phone via a private wifi connection and transfer the images. I use it all the time. I actually think it's great, and although it takes about a minute, it's still very convenient. But, if you could remove this bridge altogether between the camera and phone, and just put it ALL on the camera without having to rely on the phone, I think this would truly make photography a thing of the future. This takes one more step of workflow out of the picture > the phone. No waiting for the transfer, just immediately edit the photo on the camera (if needed), bring up the camera app for Facebook and upload. THAT is what will bring the consumers and photography to the next level of picture taking AND sharing.
Good to know. But, either way, this method is going to happen one way or another. Just a matter of when the ball gets rolling.
halc: Many people just don't get this.
Especially die-hard photographers.
Online features, instant youtube/vimee/fb etc sharing are already reality on the camera phones.
It's just a matter of time that cameras that already had wifi, got some of the same features.
Of course the photographers will not (for the most part) find these useful.
But bloggers, amateurs and special usage pros will find it very useful.
Just because you don't have use for it, doesn't mean others don't.
I posted this above, but thought it would also be relevant here. Many of us older photographers have different ideas of how photography is shared, while the younger generation of photographers live in a technology and social media culture now. They wan't to be able to share their travels, daily life, etc. on the fly, without having to worry about a lengthy work flow process of moving the images from SD card > PC/MAC > editing > social media site. They are used to the conveniences that smart phones give them...and smart phones are very powerful tools! Also, the need for security isn't as precious any longer, as the new gen of photogs are used to sharing their lives openly on the internet. You can see this on Twitter and Facebook now...its a new culture where people aren't afraid of sharing even the most intimate things with the world. A new age, I'd say...
Roger Knight: Anyone who has a NOKIA Belle smartphone with it's superb new smooth Symbian operating system will appreciate that this SAMSUNG is still many, many years behind the Nokia 808 PureView in every respect photographically and Belle is right up there with both iOS and Android in the operating system stakes. So, because I already have Nokias superb E7-00 Belle I shall wait for the Nokia windows Phone version of PureView because the camera is so damned good and usefull especially for back up travel use.
@ Roger - for some of us who are a little older, I can see the need for security, but to be honest, the younger generation live in a technology and social media culture now. The need for security isn't as precious, as they are used to sharing their lives openly on the internet. You can see this on Twitter and Facebook now...its a new culture where people aren't afraid of sharing even the most intimate things with the world. A new age, I'd say...
What I think will happen in the next couple years is that we will be seeing 3g/4g + wi-fi integrated cameras, but at no cost to the consumer. The camera companies know its silly ask consumers to pay for yet another data plan just for a camera. What I predict will happen is that camera companies will provide 3g/4g for free to the consumer, but the bandwidth will be throttled and the 'free' 3g/4g will most likely have ads on the screen when uploading to the phones 'social apps', eg. Face Book, Twitter, ETC. Similar to how Amazon offers free 3g on their ereaders (with ads).
Zaax: I would be interested in hearing your opinions of these HDR images. Shot with an X100. Is the effect too strong?
All of them look pretty strong (of course, I've seen some so darn strong that they almost look posterized). It's not a bad thing though, if that's what you're going for. I absolutely love using Dynamic-Photo HDR 5. A pro photographer turned me on to it from his HDR workflow process, and now I'm doing the same...you can really get some amazing shots using it, without looking obviously HDR to the viewer. Here are a few examples of some shots I did:
Oh, and BTW, I love the shots you took :)
Puddleglum: Forget all the half-baked upload and sharing features. Just make wireless transfer to smartphones easy, and toss in GPS tagging over Bluetooth from a smartphone, and you've got a winner.
I'm in the same boat with you. After some internet scouring for alternatives, I found out that the Smart Fi SD card updated their firmware last year to do exactly that. It works perfectly paired to my Droid. I'm using it now for FB :)
David Zamora: For those of you who were drawn to this review because of it's wi-fi capability, you may find this interesting.
From the latest reviews of this working directly with a smartphone, it appears that the phone app is what will cause this product to fail, unless Samsung fixes all of the out-of-the-box bugs it comes with. Complaints are that it is failing to work after the phone is updated, and is completely wiping out all of your saved wi-fi keys from previously connected networks. This is affecting all of their new models, the 210, x1000 and their other DSLR wifi model..can't recall the model name.
After a couple minutes, I can then upload those shots from my phone to my Facebook account, dropbox and any other app that allows image uploading. I have been wanting to do this soooo badly over the past year. Mainly because I don't carry a laptop with me to restaurants, entertainment venues, walking out and about...but now, I'm able to shoot with an amazing quality P&S camera and immediately share my images with friends, without having to take the dang thing home, transfer them to my laptop, create a photo folder, edit then finally upload to my media sites....
Crap, sorry guys, I'm going on and on about the card and not this camera and I probably sound like a dang marketing AD. Anyways, for those of you who may be wanting to use camera wifi capabilities for the same reasons I do, I just wanted to share my experiences with you.
...with we could type more characters :)
But, I digress. It appears that the wi-fi > phone usability is broken. But, to my satisfaction, I recently found out that the Eye Fi SD cards already does exactly this, and it's pretty much seamless, except that it takes about 30 seconds or so for it to pair to the phone, but I can live with that. I went out to the local Best B** and bought a 4 GB Eye-Fi card, popped the card in my camera, installed the app on my phone, and voila. I'm using the Eye Fi with my Canon S95, and it's freaking awesome. I snap a shot, it immediately pairs to my phone and begins transferring the photo/s wirelessly to my Android.
For those of you who were drawn to this review because of it's wi-fi capability, you may find this interesting.
David Zamora: Hmm, is it me, or are these images pretty darn soft at 100% crop? I'm not liking the IQ too much.
Biased and invalid, considering your plague of Sony fan posts. I like Sony products, but I'm asking a valid question here and am hoping to gain some legitimate observations.
Thanks for your time.
Hmm, is it me, or are these images pretty darn soft at 100% crop? I'm not liking the IQ too much.
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