Roland Karlsson: Hmmm ... I say it again. Panasonic and Sony and Olympus are blocking the small system camera market with Lumix (m43) and NEX (APS-C) cameras and Olympus (m43). It seems like other camera makers, except maybe Samsung, cant get in.
The Canon EOS M is selling very well in Japan--for reasons I don't understand. It was the 4th best selling "DSLR" in the BCN rankings a couple of weeks ago and is currently 8th. It will be interesting to see how it does once it is widely available elsewhere.http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008.html
rhlpetrus: Interesting, I wonder where the Sony-Zeiss partnership will go, now that Oly is coming with their lens tech. Anyway, one more of th eoriginal photo companies being taken over (not yet, but eventually) by one of the electronics giants. Only Nikon remains, Canon itself has become an electronic giant.
Sorry, but I disagree. The Mitsubishi Group consists of a range of autonomous companies. Nikon is an independent company that is one of the 225 companies listed on the Japanese stock exchange.
Why do you think an investment that gives Sony 11% of Oly's stock means that they will eventually take over Olympus?
W5JCK: I'm not sure why folks are discussing this as if it is a camera + phone. There is NO phone radio, only WiFi. And WiFi outside of your home will be almost impossible to use unless you find a hotspot. And using Android 2.3 was stupid. Android is a POS limited OS that is a PITA to use. Every Android device I've ever used suffered from severe battery drain due to the OS. If you think your current camera's menu system sucks, wait until you have to navigate the totally non-intuitive menus of Android! This camera will be such a disappointment that I predict it will be replaced faster than the average cellular phone. I hope Nikon and the stores that sell it have a generous return policy!
If you want to be able to send crappy pictures of your dog licking himself to your friends on Facebook, just use your cellular phone camera. Pictures destined for Facebook are in no need of a decent camera to create, and certainly not a 16MP camera.
How many Android devices have you used? If you hated your first one so much, why did you get another. I have no problem getting 18-24 hours of battery life on my Galaxy S2. That may not meet your needs, but it does mine.
HowaboutRAW: Dear DPReview, the Leica M8 and the Epson R-D1 predate the introduction of whatever y'all are calling the first interchangeable lens mirrorless, and that Epson by a lot.
Barney, Just curious about your reaction to Panasonic's floating the acronym DSLM. We've yet to hit on something that everyone feels comfortable with and DSLM has the advantage of indicating that the format is similar yet different to DSLRs.
"The researchers believe that within five years, as the electronic components of the cameras become miniaturized and more efficient, the next generation of gigapixel cameras should be available to the general public."
Diana CT: I have two questions...
I am looking at replacing my D70 with the D3200 and I just want to check that the lens are compatible. Since they are the bigger investment compared to the body.
Second, what is the length of the video with the largest memory card at 24 fps?
It doesn't have a built in AF motor, so the D3200 can only autofocus with AF-S and AF-I lenses.
thinkfat: Interesting. Banding with only one particular lens. The metering program could be wrong with a f/1.7 lens, like underexposing the sensor and digitally pushing the image with banding appearing.
I wonder if this has anything to do with interference between the lens and whatever it is that causes the constant humming noise on the E-M5. If it is something of this nature, I would think it would be very difficult to fix.
ZAnton: In this combination m4/3 neither smaller and lighter, nor cheaper than conventional APS-C cameras, but with serious penalty for IQ, especially DR and ISO. So what is the sense? Another toy for crazy techno-geeks?
ZAnton--We are still waiting for you to give us a example of a smaller and light APS-C camera.
There is a spelling error in the last paragraph in your overall conclusions section: cheif should be chief.
Why haven't you also started a thread in D4-D1/D800 forum? This seems to be established DPR practice.
Thanks, Richard and Timur! This guide clearly shows that you think the E-M5 is a special camera.
photo nuts: The truth is up until the release of the E-P3 as recent as 2011, Olympus has always trailed behind their APS-C counterparts in both low ISO dynamic range and high ISO performance. There is no reasonable explanation for this since the m43/43 sensor is not that much smaller than the APS-C equivalent. It's comforting to find they have finally caught up with their competition and even surpassed Canon for low ISO dynamic range. If Canon continues to sit back and do nothing to their sensor design, they are majorly screwed. Shame on them.
I am not entirely convinced the whole sensor is from Panasonic. The likely scenario is Panasonic provides the sensor backbone while Olympus does some electronic tingling on their own, much akin to the Sony/Nikon partnership. In any case, this is a bravura performance!
Canon just reported a 30% increase in DSLR sales for the first quarter of this year. Unlike so many Japanese companies that are hemorrhaging money (e.g., Sony, Panasonic) Canon remains profitable.
ecm: What can I say? Bravo, Olympus! A winner of a sensor/JPEG engine combo for certain.
The JPEGs are actually very strong; a bit of false detail creeping in at 3200 ISO but nothing that would be objectionable at 8X10 - and that nice punchy Olympus color is maintained. The 6400 ISO shots are pretty bad, but I would bet significantly better than most pocket cams at ISO 1600.
Compared to the T3i, the OM-D is clearly the "winner" at 1600-3200 JPEG, but (perhaps unfortunately, perhaps not - depending on what you prefer) the Oly JPEG engine is clearly wringing everything out of the raw file. The Canon is much improved when shooting raw, the Oly, not so much.
I also note (again!) what an awesome lens the Zuiko 50mm f/2.0 macro is - m4/3 users should be clamoring for a new version dedicated to the mirrorless format without the focus issues. I'd also like to see more about the new 12-50mm - hopefully with the OM-D review?
Again, Bravo Olympus! You needed a winner.....
It is now $400--still a bargain. If there is a reputable dealer selling for $300 please let me know.
Ahender: A score of 77% seems pretty generous.
Same as the Canon EOS 600D and 550D.
You are wrong, hammerhead. See the Conslusion where it says:
Samsung NX200Category: Mid Range Interchangeable Lens Camera / DSLR
Geodesiq: They couldn't decide between OM-D and E-M5 so they went with both? Brilliant! It doesn't have an OM mount so that part is ridiculous. The only thing of interest is the in body stabilization for tele shots.
I think Oly intends for the E-M5 to be the first model in the OM-D series.
AbrasiveReducer: Maybe Canon will buy Olympus' photo business and make the next model the OM-D E-M5 II mark IV. I get the retro thing but I'm a little suprised it resembles the OM-G, the "poor man's" OM camera and I wonder who would want a silver one.
I would be happy to have a silver one sitting beside my OM-1.
Jon Stern: It's silly that we are still calling these cameras "mirrorless". We don't call DSLR cameras "filmless"; film cameras weren't called "glass-plateless"; and glass plate cameras weren't called "portrait-painterless".
Equally, we don't normally name things by what they don't contain. Otherwise my computer would be called a chickenless, pyramidless, stuffed-toyless, Andromeda-Galaxyless, swimming-pooless, 5000-foot-statue-of-Charlie-Chaplinless, Pope Gregory-II-less, etc., etc., etc., ... laptop computer!
I think many would agree with you, which is why several other names have been proposed (EVIL, CSC, etc.). Unfortunately, nothing has been able to supersede mirrorless. If you can improve on it, please feel free to do so.
Pangloss: There are many issues at this moment with Olympus:1) Nobody knows how much the company is worth, since its accounting has been compromised over the last 20 years(!).2) Investors have lost confidence and employee morale is probably pretty low.3) Mr. Woodford should quickly be reinstated as CEO and President and be allowed to form a new management team.4) The company *urgently* needs to complete its financial accounts review in time to submit to the Tokyo Stock Exchange to avoid delisting (by Dec. 14).The 92-year old company is in E.R. at this stage and unless they act very fast, it could disappear in the short term.
There are many interesting things about this scandal and one of them is how polarized people are about Woodford. Despite the fact that he had the guts to stick up to the criminals at Olympus, some people here are intent on demonizing him. Steve Jobs made cut backs when he was reinstated as CEO and ruled Apple with an iron fist. Woodford is obviously no Steve Jobs, but my point is that good CEOs are not someone you would want for a friend.
landscaper1: I realize there are a lot of people who use Olympus cameras. But seriously, this has nothing to do with photography, per se. If Olympus were a major player in the digital camera market, it might be of some interest, but if Olympus were to cease producing photographic products tomorrow, there would be a very small impact on the field of consumer photography and it would be of very limited duration at that.
I'd prefer dpreview focus on the technology and techniques of photography and leave the financial issues of camera manufacturing to the financial pages.
It is of considerable interest to those of us who use Olympus cameras. If you aren't interested in this scandal then don't read about it or waster your time commenting.