PatrickP: I'm not trying to be a snob, but if my daughter (or yours) fork out three grand of depreciating-like-no-body dollar for a once-in-a-life-time wedding, and you see the pro photog using a OM-D EM5, what would you think?
The photog might well be super duper skillful, but one would have a hard time wondering how much better the pictures would look if the same shots were made with a Nikon or Canon full frame. 2-3 stops better dynamic range and high iso noise characteristics. Whether it is a D700/D3, D800, D4, 5D2/5D3, 1DX, it doesn't matter. Given the aesthetic qualities are the same, you still cannot beat the law of physics. large sensor takes in more light and pictures do look better.
The m4/3s and NEXs has made themselves into very fine cameras. But would they be up to heavy duty pro use one day?
"and you see the pro photog using a OM-D EM5, what would you think?"I'd think that photographer was ahead of the curve.
gulffish: Another view, based on thread count today:
1. Nokon D800 223,6062. Olympus E-M5 52,2163. Sony RX100 42,2644. Canon EOS 5D Mark III 4,582
Too bad there isn't a way to limit votes to those who have actually owned the camera they vote for.
How did you come up with those numbers?
ThePhilips: Unexpected poll results.
That as if in car magazine poll for the best vehicle, suddenly VW Golf had won, trailed by Hummer and Bugatti.
Despite the deeply rooted FF-fanboism, for a more affordable and more versatile camera to win popularity contest on DPR is truly an achievement. More so for the DPR community itself - than for the Olympus.
P.S. Happy new year!
@Mike_PEAT. The DC Watch poll separated the D800e and the D800. The combined total for those two cameras was 4,242 versus 3,032 for the OM-D
designdef: Certainly not the best from a product design perspective. When will this harking back to retro styling boredom end???!!! 2013?
Given how ugly and boring the standard DSLR design is, I consider the retro styling and added bonus. However, the only effect it had on my decision was to get the silver instead of the black OM-D.
Raist3d: I did see at least one call to mobilize people to vote for the OMD-5, so wouldn't be surprised it eked past Nikon due to that in this poll. Not that any of these three cameras are bad, but kinda sad to watch how polls can be shifted.
@Rasit3d. Given the amount of wrongdoing in the world, I'm not surprised that a few people engaged in behavior that you consider inappropriate. One might also find it inappropriate that some people claimed that the OM-D wouldn't have won had it not been for the actions of the few people who solicited votes, which was clearly nothing but speculation.
The final tally was a essentially a tie between the OM-D and the D800 (what the pollsters call within the margin of error). Considering the low stakes involved, I find it funny that some people went to the trouble of soliciting votes and that others were troubled that this happened.
vodanh1982: It makes sense. The OM-D is more affordable so it has more popularity. Full frame owners cannot beat them for vote counts.
Based on your logic, the least expensive camera in the contest should have won, which it didn't.
MarcLee: Olympus certainly has the best web undercover marketing tactics.
If true, that would be the only thing their marketing department has ever done well.
sandy b: Interesting read, a bit of gerrymandering
@Sandy bSo, I assume you would prefer to live in a country where it is illegal to encourage people to vote for a political candidate. This eliminates all democratic and socialist countries that I know of--perhaps you would be happier living under communism or a dictatorship.
@MarcLeeWhy is it childish? I assume calling this a fanboy poll is your attempt to discredit it.
sandy b: Lemming, funny. This lemming would rathert buy a Nikon 3200 than a Oly E. Its small, light, cheap. matches the IQ of the Oly with better Res, and it takes my Nikon lens.
The 3200 is an excellent choice for many people. However, if you want to use it with high quality lenses, your system will no longer be small & lightweight. Nikon professional Thom Hogan has replaced his D7000 with an E-M5 when he wants a small and light setup.
I think you would be surprised at how many of us have switched from Canikon to M4/3 as well as the number of people who own both a mirrorless camera and a DSLR.
I fail to see what is wrong with encouraging people to vote for a particular camera. Encouraging people to vote for politicians is a well accepted part of the political process. No one voted for the OM-D who didn't want to and there is nothing to prevent fans of other cameras from engaging in similar "get out the vote" efforts.
Thorgrem: I wonder why there is no NEX camera on the list. "We made this selection based on cameras that we've had time to use extensively, and that we really like." Does this mean that the crew didn't really liked the NEX offerings this year?
I assume NEX-7 was excluded because it was released last year. I agree that the NEX-6 would have been a much better choice than E-PL5, A57 & XZ2 (combined votes for these three cameras < 3%). Maybe no one at DPR has had time to use the 6 extensively.
witne2s: Its a pity that some good cameras couldn`t get into list because they are on shelves only for month or less and there are only few people who can honestly judge them as the best camera of the 2012.
This poll could be more fair somewhere in June 2013, but who needs "Best Camera of 2012" poll half a year after 2012 ended.
Anyway, i believe that all the top best cameras are represented and the question is mostly "would it be some awesomely done old good DSLR or some lots_of_new_stuff, good_as_you_never_expected_from_its_class pocket-size masterpiece"
There are also cameras on the list that haven't been out long enough to generate many votes--GH3. A better survey would have been to have included cameras released Aug/Sep 2011 - Aug/Sep 2012. I think the NEX-7 would have done well.
jorden mosley: For those who've owned or used both the D800 and the EM-5: would you say that at iso 3200-6400, that the EM-5 has an equal amount of noise as the D800?
Many voters clearly don't think that low light/high ISO performance is the only thing worth considering.
Tape5: The definition of a best camera for me is the one that is going to make a dent in photographic history. A camera that represents a turning point in some aspect of photography.
A bit weird that people have voted for the OM-D EM-5 to actually go past D800, not to mention winners like the RX1, RX100, A99 ( who on earth would have thought to see three Sonies here !) as well as the great GH3. A better camera than D800E? The MF for the masses? How?
The Oly has obviously sold a lot.
The OM-D represents a turning point for many of us who want a light weight mirrorless system with high IQ and quality lenses.
Of course, all of this is subjective and the preferences of those who frequent DPR may have little relationship to the larger community of camera enthusiasts. GH3 & RX1 would probably being doing better if they had been out longer. XZ-2 & E-PL5 are good cameras but I can't imagine why DPR thought anyone would vote for them (XE-1 & NEX-6 would have been better choices). Unfortunate that there isn't a single NEX model.
c76: If you like to own OMD system, it's not cheap, to get most out of the OMD, you must have Olympus prime lenses, the 12mm 2.0 ($799), 45mm 1.8 ($399)and 75mm 1.8 ($899) are must have for the system, of course Panasonic 25mm 1.4 ($499), plus the FL600 flash light (299), well pass $4k. for that money you can get Nikon D600 (full frame) with kit lens 24-85mm + 70-200mm.
OM-D and D600 are two completely different cameras that appeal to enthusiasts with different priorities.
rrr_hhh: I read Woodford's interview and what he says sounds wrong. He has sour grapes and plays the victim's role, but he just sounds like an angry looser, trying to harm Olympus as much as he cans. He sounds like a manipulator and insinuating things for which he has no proof (like the involvement of the Japanese mafia).He making a meditation retreat with Buddhists ? And giving his money to charity ? Let me laugh, it is not because you stay three days with Buddhists that what you did before was right and how much did he give to charity ? Many people are giving to charity ! And even if he gave half of what he received he still got way more money from Olympus than what most people earn in 20 years ! I will believe it when I see the list of beneficiaries and how much each actually received and testimonies of what they could achieve with his gifts. Poor soul ! He may have uncovered real problems, but he used the wrong way to solve them : he just tried to use them to his own advantage.
I'm not a fan of Woodford and agree that he could have handled things better. But one only has to look at the huge severance packages received by CEOs to know that he could have quietly walked away with more than enough money to retire in comfort. I think it is also fair to assume Oly would have paid him nicely if he had left the company with a non-disclosure agreement.Examples: Lee Raymond Exxon $321 million; Tom Freston Viacom $100 million after only 9 months on the job.
CameraLabTester said:>His severance paycheck is intack.
We live in an age where the average CEO of a major company makes over $5 million/year and US football coaches are the highest paid public employee in many states. There was an article in the NY Times today about the fact that major universities pay $5-$10 million in severance pay when they fire a football coach. The fact that Woodford walked away with $10 million (give or take) is nothing exceptional.