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tkpenalty: Why dont they just make a mirroless D3x00 with on sensor phase like the V2 and the same aesthetic?
Much less R&D, much easier engineering, and each camera would be cheaper. The V2 isn't even small anymore....
@Jorginho
The smaller sensor size of the V2 translates into about a one stop difference, so low light ability of f1.2 on V2 is similar to f1.8 on mFT.
Zvonimir Tosic: I don't understand Olympus. Why they issue an E-Px camera, then also an E-PLx camera which is basically bastardised and cheap E-Px? Why they follow the logic, or the lack of it, of the DSLR manufacturers?
For example, why they don't keep the value and the appeal of the E-Px cameras by issuing a separate line of fixed, quality retractable lens cameras with the same sensor and in the similar design (but a camera category that is more like the Coolpix A and Ricoh GR, or even Fuji X100s)?
The small form factor of the mirrorless offer would really show its truer potential, and would not devaluate the appeal of the Pen camera. (And then on top those two lines, have an OM-D like offer too). In retrospect, by now they could practically own the market which Fujifilm, Sigma, Nikon ad Ricoh try to create and establish themselves with their fixed-lens, large sensor enthusiast cameras.
I appreciate your answers.
Are you referring to the past and present executives at Olympus?
marike6: It looks very similar to the EP-3, but with a tilt LCD. They just wrote "Olympus PEN" in all caps on as a nod to the original PEN.
The country club, polo shoes, cologne theme makes me NOT want to buy it at all. I cannot think of a more square marketing theme than "country club chic".
It's also not nearly as beautiful as the X100s, nor as small and utilitarian as the Ricoh GRD V. So I'm out, but I'm sure it will do well with m43 users.
I have my doubts about m43 users. I'm on my third mFT camera and don't think it makes much sense to own both the E-M5 and the E-P5. I prefer to shoot with an EVF and, after using the excellent VF-2 with the E-PL1, have no desire to own another camera with a removable EVF. This is clearly an excellent camera. However, I see it as appealing to a niche market and doubt it will sell that well. I think most E-M5 users are willing to wait for the next OM-D to enjoy the improvements that have been incorporated into the E-P5.
gandulfc: basically, when I read the video specs, this is a panasonic gh2 with slight photo improvements
It has 1080/60p and focus peaking. Andrew Reid is quite impressed with it.
http://www.eoshd.com/content/10172/gh2-sensor-goes-into-impressive-panasonic-g6-adds-108060p-and-focus-peaking
Richard,
It would be helpful if DPR could make it clear how the dimensions coincide with the weightings. For example, you have a movie/video dimension but this is not a separate category in your weightings pie chart. Thus, we have no idea if it is considered part of "features" or "other" or something else.
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4416254604/camera-scores-ratings-explained
agentul: so the GH2 gets 79% and a silver award, while the GH3 gets 79% and a gold award. why?
Both are obviously subjective. The scores on each dimension and the overall score are based on subjective judgments as are the awards.
GodSpeaks: I would like to have seen side by side size comparisons to say an Olympus OMD, Panasonic GH3, Gx cameras, and even against the smallest Canon, Nikon and Sony DSLR cameras.
Otherwise saying it's the world's smallest DSLR really does not give any real feel of how small it is (or not).
Canon Rebel SL1 is 7% (8.2 mm) narrower and 6% (5.3 mm) shorter than Nikon D3200.
Canon Rebel SL1 is 9% (7.1 mm) thinner than Nikon D3200.
Canon Rebel SL1 [407 g] weights 19% (98 grams) less than Nikon D3200 [505 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).
Canon Rebel SL1 is 3% (4.2 mm) narrower and 1% (1.1 mm) taller than Olympus OM-D E-M5.
Canon Rebel SL1 is 66% (27.5 mm) thicker than Olympus OM-D E-M5.
Canon Rebel SL1 [407 g] weights 2% (7 grams) more than Olympus OM-D E-M5 [400 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).
Canon Rebel SL1 is 12% (16.1 mm) narrower and 3% (2.7 mm) shorter than Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3.
Canon Rebel SL1 is 15% (12.6 mm) thinner than Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3.
Canon Rebel SL1 [407 g] weights 26% (143 grams) less than Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 [550 g] (*inc. batteries and memory card).
camerasize.com
Tim F 101: Great news for micro 4/3. Sounds like a killer app for people who want to do great video with minimal (sized) gear. The GH3 will do just fine, since this little thing does not look like a great tool if you also want to take great still pics (or at least the best that the m4/3 lens mount can deliver).
This will probably hurt GH3 sales since some people will prefer its video capabilities and opt to go with separate cameras for stills and video.
Winston Loo: just look at this and tell me that Canon's strategy makes any sense?
http://camerasize.com/compact/#289.96,448.134,ha,t
A comparison of equivalent lenses (18-36mm equiv):
Olympus E-M5 + Olympus 9-18mm f/4-5.6 -- 555g Filter size 52mm
Canon 100D + Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 - - 1077g Filter size 82mm
And the Olympus lens is slightly faster! but has no hood.
Looks to me like this is just one part of their strategy to gain small ILC market share. They will compete with their brand name recognition & marketing muscle and superior AF for moving subjects. This camera isn't aimed at those who want a 9-18. It is aimed at the average P&S upgrader who will never own more than one or two zoom lenses. I expect them to emphasize the fact that the 18-55 only weighs 7 oz.
retro76: I love my OM-D, but I have longed for a smaller Canon SLR. The slow focusing of the OM-D, poor controls and menus, and smaller sensor (DOF) have been things I have had trouble moving past. Looks like the OM-D is going up for sale !
Sounds like you don't really love your OM-D. If you weren't aware that CDAF is still inferior to PDAF for moving subjects when you bought the OM-D, you have only yourself to blame. I hope you are happy with the 100D.
robmanueb: Nikon Coolpix A killer. Faster lens, quarter of the price and it has an optical viewfinder.
Nevertheless, Nikon bucked the trend last year with increased Coolpix sales that took market share away from Canon and Sony.
Sergey Borachev: If there is only one new serious model once every 3 years, and still not competitively priced or featured, then what is the difference whether Olympus is stopped DSLR making or not, or whether it is really alive or dead. How many would dare consider such a DSLR system, when DSLRs' own future in the long time is a question mark, espeically given the size of its DSLR business and the financial trouble the company is in and can't seem to recover from?
I know there are many people here trying to talk this up, people who are fanaticss and owners of 43 lenses. The reality is that Olympus needs to survive at this time. Olympus is stupid to try to revive a system that most have given for dead, and it will face death itself trying. If it can't make a decent profit and get stronger financially even now, while its M43 products are looking so promising at this time, what chance has it got diverting resources to something that few would bother with now? Too late!
Whats Olympus thinking?
What Hollywood movie? The last mention that Woodford was negotiating movie rights was Nov 2012 when it was reported that he was in talks with a British film company, The Ink Factory. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/26/entertainment-us-woodford-olympus-movie-idUSBRE8AP09020121126
Jefftan: I am surprised Samsung has not giving up on the NX system
especially with the price. no chance at all in the market
maybe OK in Korea but not for the world
Samsung hates to admit defeat in any product market, especially to Japanese companies. Their strategy is to keep copying and improving their products until they get them right. I don't see them giving up on the NX system any time soon.
Trollshavethebestcandy: Soccer moms rejoice!
People take this camera too seriously
This is not a poor mans Leica its a soccer mom cam.
If you want a silk purse from sows ear then go to M 4/3rds or Fuji X__?
Can an artist brush with this to create art? Yes.
Is the sensor/body size ratio off? Yes.
Are the lenses too big? Yes.
Is this a serious camera? No.
Go out and make art and capture moments..
With a retail price of $900 with kit lens, I don't think this camera will be a hit with soccer moms.
PatrickP: I'm not trying to be a snob, but if my daughter (or yours) fork out three grand of depreciating-like-no-body dollar for a once-in-a-life-time wedding, and you see the pro photog using a OM-D EM5, what would you think?
The photog might well be super duper skillful, but one would have a hard time wondering how much better the pictures would look if the same shots were made with a Nikon or Canon full frame. 2-3 stops better dynamic range and high iso noise characteristics. Whether it is a D700/D3, D800, D4, 5D2/5D3, 1DX, it doesn't matter. Given the aesthetic qualities are the same, you still cannot beat the law of physics. large sensor takes in more light and pictures do look better.
The m4/3s and NEXs has made themselves into very fine cameras. But would they be up to heavy duty pro use one day?
"and you see the pro photog using a OM-D EM5, what would you think?"
I'd think that photographer was ahead of the curve.
gulffish: Another view, based on thread count today:
1. Nokon D800 223,606
2. Olympus E-M5 52,216
3. Sony RX100 42,264
4. Canon EOS 5D Mark III 4,582
Too bad there isn't a way to limit votes to those who have actually owned the camera they vote for.
How did you come up with those numbers?
ThePhilips: Unexpected poll results.
That as if in car magazine poll for the best vehicle, suddenly VW Golf had won, trailed by Hummer and Bugatti.
Despite the deeply rooted FF-fanboism, for a more affordable and more versatile camera to win popularity contest on DPR is truly an achievement. More so for the DPR community itself - than for the Olympus.
P.S. Happy new year!
@Mike_PEAT. The DC Watch poll separated the D800e and the D800. The combined total for those two cameras was 4,242 versus 3,032 for the OM-D
designdef: Certainly not the best from a product design perspective. When will this harking back to retro styling boredom end???!!! 2013?
Given how ugly and boring the standard DSLR design is, I consider the retro styling and added bonus. However, the only effect it had on my decision was to get the silver instead of the black OM-D.
Raist3d: I did see at least one call to mobilize people to vote for the OMD-5, so wouldn't be surprised it eked past Nikon due to that in this poll. Not that any of these three cameras are bad, but kinda sad to watch how polls can be shifted.
@Rasit3d. Given the amount of wrongdoing in the world, I'm not surprised that a few people engaged in behavior that you consider inappropriate. One might also find it inappropriate that some people claimed that the OM-D wouldn't have won had it not been for the actions of the few people who solicited votes, which was clearly nothing but speculation.
Raist3d: I did see at least one call to mobilize people to vote for the OMD-5, so wouldn't be surprised it eked past Nikon due to that in this poll. Not that any of these three cameras are bad, but kinda sad to watch how polls can be shifted.
The final tally was a essentially a tie between the OM-D and the D800 (what the pollsters call within the margin of error).
Considering the low stakes involved, I find it funny that some people went to the trouble of soliciting votes and that others were troubled that this happened.