Mato34: I feel curious about GN of the built-in flash. Sure it stands there for a reason, say it should light Ganimedes or Mars without any problem :)
I know that, and I understood that was the reason why the flash is still there. But still it's funny to see in a camera so specialized :)
And heck! There's plenty of tourists here in Majorca taking photos to the cathedral, about 60 meters away with flash. So what we might know??? :P
I feel curious about GN of the built-in flash. Sure it stands there for a reason, say it should light Ganimedes or Mars without any problem :)
photofan1986: Meh, I have a Panasonic 20 f1.7, it's even faster, and so much smaller and lighter, that they managed to make it a pancake. Come on, Nikon, give us the pancake version :D Ps: That's humor ;-)
Photofan, sorry to see your sarcastic post wasn't well understood by some... ;)
Perhaps you should have used capital letters on your PS :)
capanikon: They look good. Nikon's doing a good job with the 1 series. I think 18mp is probably too much for this size sensor, however, yet I understand Nikon is probably under marketing pressure to juice the megapixel count up higher regardless of whether or not it's a good idea.
Simon97, I agree with that consideration about the 11-27.5. I've tried two and both were sharp as hell, at any focal length and any aperture.
It's a lens with poor specifications but amazing results!
EJPB: I haven't heard much about that FT1 adapter for the Nikon 1 series. What are peoples opinions on it? Is it worth while? Because these are fantastic camera's from what i've heard from the Nikon Representative yesterday, and from what i've read. But If I get one, i'm pretty sure i'll want to get the FT1 to put my Nikkor glass on that sick puppy. But I need some more info on it.
Well, you will keep AF with AF-S lenses, but only on the central point. VR also works nicely.
If you want to go telephoto it gives you some interesting options: a 200 mm lens turn into a 540 mm equivalent, for example, or the 85/1.8 G turns into a 230 mm equivalent. Also in macro shoting it can delivers some really nice results.
Anyway, I got into the 1 system mainly for the adapter, but I have ended liking the native lenses. But I'm keeping my dSLRs also...
Eleson: Every camera is great, at the right price point. Let's hope Nikon get this right. Associating a brand with firesales isn't good.
I'm really liking the J4. It seems a product well done considering the target audience. Integrated WiFi and the touch screen were a must since time ago, so they just put the camera at its rival's level, but I think a lot of people will like the PD 10-30 lens with its automatic cover lens. Also I find it more attractive than the previous J's.
And the price as you say: Nikon Deutschland says in the press release it will be 589 € with the 10-30 PD. Seems quite reasonable to me, and very in-line with its rivals.
Mike FL: 18.4-megapixel + slow lenses = BAD low-light performance.
For the same sensor size, Sony Rx100 and/or Rx100M2 are much better camera.
Well, but in that case the Sonys doesn't seem to be "better camera", which is what Mike said :)
In fact I have both the RX100 and the Nikon 1 system (several bodies and lenses), and I have done some spontaneous action photos (bikes on road) using the RX100. Using manual exposure and locking AF (or MF) isn't that difficult to obtain good results. But when I'm planning to do that, I take the 1 system, whatever body.
But I find very hard to conclude in a bold way what is best talking in a very general way: a compact camera "ended" or an expandable system. Both have their strengths and faults.
bobbarber: This camera system doesn't do it for me. No viewfinder and slow, EXPENSIVE lenses are the reasons. The cheap bodies are what the supermarket industry calls a loss leader; they get you in the store with an underpriced item, so that you buy everything else from them.
Why expensive lenses? Here in Europe:- 10-30: 100 €- 30-110: 180 €- 6.7-13: 450 €- 10-100: 400 €- 18.5: 160 €
I know that compared with DLSR APS and FF systems they lag in price/size relationship (I mean the 1's lenses are more expensive in relation with its size), but compare them with other mirrorless lenses and they are the cheapest ones in almost all categories.
Laagwater: Price in the Netherlands for the J4 + 10-30= 629 euro, where the V3 + 10-30 =969
I've read 589 € in the Deutschland Nikon press note. A cheap V3 without the option of EVF :)
peevee1: Judging by 1/60s flash X-sync, shutter is purely electronic rolling shutter, right?
I thought the same. Nothing new in the J series, anyway.
For action shots sure the RX100 are better cameras also.
Josh152: Wow lots of assuming and jumping to conclusion going on here. Nikon Rumors is reporting that some 3rd party batters still work. It is likely the compatibly break is just a side effect of the new code that read the batteries more accurately and was not done on purpose. Just give the third party battery makes time the hack the new code and they will probably work again, though you will still have to buy new batters with the new programing.
Phew! I was afraid I couldn't find a single reasonable and not bashing "Why Nikon pi$$ed my 5$ battery!!??" post here :)
I think it's as simple as you have written there. Same with issues on Sigma lenses. If Nikon was guilty, why Tamron and Tokina doesn't suffer those problems?
Green/magenta tint from side to side??? You shot with a Nex!! :D
peevee1: The $800 kit with 11-27.5 can be easily replaced by $300 Oly TG-2 or Pentax WG-3 GPS (f/2 at the short end compensates for smaller sensor in low light). But the cameras also have image stabilization and significantly more compact (can be actually put into a pocket of your swimming trunks) and their zoom ranges are wider. With add-on lenses for TG-2 and its close-focusing capability, it is so much more capable than this Nikon it is not even funny.
HowaboutRAW, I think you misundertood one of my comments or perhaps I wasn't clear when writing (english isn't my native language). Basically I appreciate this AW1 and see some real bonus against other alternatives.
If it is because of the "Canon G16, Oly's XZ, Pana's LX, Nikon P7x00... against a lot of mirrorless." text, I was arguing that some attributes of compacts are valid against A LOT of mirrorless, and not only this AW1, so this Nikons is not worse than them regarding those areas.
Obviously price is another thing. Every one could take his choice, but I can see some arguments on the Nikon's side.
I know DxO but also I have that 12 MP BSI sensor on my Canon SX220 shooting RAW using CHDK, and a pair of V1, and if the 14 MP 1" performs as the 10 MP one I can tell that 1+1/2 EV isn't enough. Even with DxO results it's easy to see, for example: DR is about 1+1/2 EV better since ISO 400 upwards.
A link to actual images, not numbers: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/studio-compare?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu#baseDir=%2Freviews_data&cameraDataSubdir=boxshot&indexFileName=boxshotindex.xml&presetsFileName=boxshotpresets.xml&showDescriptions=false&headerTitle=Studio%20scene&headerSubTitle=Standard%20studio%20scene%20comparison&masterCamera=oly_tg2&masterSample=p6270028&slotsCount=4&slot0Camera=oly_tg2&slot0Sample=p6270028&slot0DisableCameraSelection=true&slot0DisableSampleSelection=true&slot0LinkWithMaster=true&slot1Camera=nikon_v1&slot1Sample=dsc_0314&x=-0.2443349753694581&y=-0.3487786824574389
And also the AW1 has manual modes and RAW
Franka T.L.: Actually Nikon need to made versions of both the 18.5 and 32mm as well, underwater, when light is naturally less intense, the cam need the speed. And it need a lens that's wider than 10mm. Underwater, with a different transmission media ( water instead of air ) the coverage of all lens narrows.
This is interesting development for the 1 system. And the outdoor tough cam market is actually a pretty big one. But all we have is either action cam like Go PRO or petite sensor like Nikon's own Coolpix AW series. Or else it would be full blown system type DSLR / Mirrorless with underwater housing. This 1 AW certainly made a very viable alternative.
I'd better like an underwater version of the 6.7-13, even if it was a fixed 6.7/3.5. At least compacts cover normal zoom range, but for UWA this AW could be an easy and (relatively) inexpensive solution.
I don't think 1+1/2 stop is enough to compensate better sensor.
This and the other things of being more compact, with more zoom range, better macro capability... could be said of Canon G16, Oly's XZ, Pana's LX, Nikon P7x00... against a lot of mirrorless. Only the price is similar.
wootpile: This is too funny. Nikon 1 is a dead end so how can we squeeze the last bit from it? Let's ruggedize it.. any try to compete on the established action cam market. Oh, by the way .. the other 1-lenses won't fit. LOL
What's good about all this? It givesw Nikon a way to retire the 1 series on land without loosing face, and finally give us a 1 inch product.
That's incorrect: The other lenses will fit in the AW, although the AW lenses won't fit on the existing bodies.
davel33: It would be nice to see how they compare to a 6D/70D, so see if its worth the money to upgrade to a camera with wifi or get an SD card? I think you missed half of the show :)
Actually I bought a Transcend WiFi card after looking at several P&S cameras with WiFi connection to transfer photos to my mobile, and realizing that I could buy that 40 € card and use it on my old and good Canon IXUS 220 HS and also on my other cameras.
And that's what I'm doing now. For 40 € I've added WiFi connection on my Canon 220HS, Sony RX100, Nikon V1, Nikon D7000... and others. Not pro use, just aficionado, but I'm more than satisfied with it.