keeponkeepingon: While I like the 808 camera everything else about it is horrible.
Just doing a basic task can take me 5 times longer than on my iphone.
For example: Take a picture, resize it for email, enter contacts/enter a subject text then send.
OMG it is so slow on the 808. You can't specifiy a size in the email program so you have to enter the editor, resize, then save as a seperate file which takes 4evah. Then you go to send it but they give you 3 choices and the screen is so bad (or my fingers so big) 1/5th of the time it goes to SMS messaging, exit that, try again get into email, now your subject is like a 10 didget number, so you try to select and delete that, but the selection is wonky you finally give up and back space 10 or 20 times to delete the filename based nonsense subject enterr you contacts/text and "finally" hit send.
Sigh. End result is I rarely actually send pictures from the phone, which is sort of the whole point of having a camera in the dang phone.....
While I can not reject your experience; what I do is, step by step:
1. Activate camera function by pressing the shutter button, long press will also take the first shot immediately2. Camera is ready to take a new picture, therefore tap gallery icon (a thumbnail of the image just taken)3. Tap menu symbol and select Edit4. Tap Sizing tools and select Resize (I usually also Crop and Autolevel before resizing)5. Move finger across the screen “Flick” to dynamically resize, when ready tap OK symbol6. Tap Save symbol (or Back arrow, not to be confused with undo/redo symbols, and from the requester select OK for saving the changed image)7. Tap menu symbol and select Send8. From the requester select Email9. The Email Subject will be the name of the attached file by default; you can swipe over the subject field to select the text and directly replace it as you wish.10. Write body text11. From the To field tap contacts symbol, select the contact(s) of interest12. Tap Send email symbol
CameraLabTester: Microsoft just wasted money...
Bought NOKIA just now...
There is a wide spread consensus that the offered price was far too low, emphasizing Stephen Elop's questionable role in this transaction.We'll see how the EGM shall cast their vote; the deal is anything but certain.
photoaddict: how is that possible to have so much bandwidth at 1000 fps at 4K resolution?!?!
Nowadays many things have become possible; often it's more about the readiness to invest in technology when it still is in its early stages.
I have witnessed Art. What a beautiful technological showcase, indeed.
T3: I remember there was a large group of people on these forums who were adamant that large high resolution sensors with *smaller* pixels (as opposed to larger pixels) would yield better low-light image quality. Wonder where those people are now.
I for a one would always prefer signal purity, integrity and naturality over artificial edge definition, which is achievable with advanced NR processing.
Micro-optoelectronics physics has not changed, with a given technology and generation, larger pixels can collect also relatively more photons. But I do admit this is a complex question in real circumstances.
Denton Taylor: "There are a lot of wannabe fashion and beauty photographers"
I stopped reading there. Why insult people that comprise a large part of your audience?
This is not my fight, but… Just unfortunate bad wording; most likely not directly meant to insult anyone.
People who know their stuff, especially artists, can be a bit harsh when they see a threat devaluing the Art they embrace and factually live in. Read the rest of it and take what you see important and worthwhile for your photographic process.
Ben O Connor: Dear dpreview, would you please make review of Pentad 645D, which is also another 40 megapixel camera.
You can review its fotographic & video capabilities to show us difference. If there is any. They are both 40 mpx right ? Sorry Nokia has 1 more of it...
One will need deep pockets for that one though, quite literally.
Petrogel: Now makes sense why Nokia is barking for 49mp sensored "smartphone"'Bond-rating agencies took note and promptly downgraded Nokia's debt to junk status,
The question is not about qualities of reality, it is about the funniness based on reality and its objectiveness thereof.
So isn't funniness then objective when it is based on reality?
rondhamalam: Nokia really needs Android.
Symbian is struggling and Microsoft doesn't support Nokia either.
Sales slumped using Microsoft on smartphones and Symbian on smaller phones:http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/07/15/nokia-phone-pricecut-idINL2E8IF2MI20120715
Go Android, like Sony did
@Sergey BorachevI think you are seeing Nokia's competitors' strengths as Nokia's weaknesses. Apple's admirable success has been build on their strong lifestyle brand image and carefully segmented marketing starting from their strong follower base with brand loyalty beyond explanation. Android has been so successful mainly because of its licensing scheme which has created strong market presence through a plethora of devices.
What comes to Microsoft WP, I believe the jury is still out there. By the end of next year and with Windows 8 family we will be wiser to make conclusions. Nokia has other plans should WP strategy turn out to be a let down, no specifics has been published in this regard.
Obviously you didn't understand what was meant, here is an example: I find it funny when a friend tells me that when he was doing shopping some other customer in the shop thought he was a sales person and started to explain his specific needs to my friend.
But I do recognise that sense of humour is a personal thing reflecting cultural background, upbringing and personality.
@PetrogelWell that's a good one, especially because it's true. But then again, I believe the best jokes usually are.
Yes, I have no problem with being objective. Maybe you could try that too, for a change?
That is a very stupid thing to say, but nothing new from you; more entertainment to come, I'm afraid?
You do realise that resource hungry R&D for PureView imager ASIC and DSP technology was initiated when Nokia was indisputably the leader of telecommunications equipment sector, don't you? That is many years ago, long before the present struggle against sliding market share.
Bram de Mooij: Is this to show sound / video quality or is it to show the lack of it ?Video is nice for a phone. Sound is crap, as it always is with phones.
@Petrogel"if you want to turn it politically (like your friend virvatulet wanted to talk about English grammar on a previous article that's O.K with me)"
How twisted can your memory be, Petrogel? You were the one who started correcting another writer's (Sir_bazz) grammar in a self-absorbed and incorrect way still, so I just nicely pointed out that you were wrong.
BTW, this idea about grunge towards Finland for being so stringent has crossed my mind also. But remember, we agreed on the conditions and Greece got a financial support plan, now it's up to you to get your economy in balance. Show firm determination to do so and surely the rest of the Europe will stand by you.
rondhamalam: If only it has ANDROID ..........................
Symbian is dead !!!
Wait for next generation of pureview Nokia 809
@ PetrogelDo you have any idea how many Symbian based smartphones have been sold worldwide?
Calling something DOA that has historically powered the largest number of smartphones ever and still is powering a considerable amount of them just goes to underline the fact that you are a man on a mission. And a bitter mission that is.
Dougbm_2: Impressive. Maybe they should give up on phones and switch to cameras?
How so? They do excel at both areas; Nokia's biggest problem has been their rather dull and stalled brand image for several years now. Not their products that much, of course constant improvement is needed with every factor.
If you compare to Apple's admirable success, it has been build on its impeccable lifestyle brand image and carefully selected target segments for their marketing. Apple's marketing machine is arguably the best in the industry, but I think nothing can last forever, Nokia will catch the ball.
Petrogel: Guys you are really funny . For 600+ euros you can buy a REAL camera, AND NOT THIS TOY CAMERA, i'm not talking about the phone (there is nothing to say) (once you go Symbian you never want to even hear anything about it ) !!!!!
@ PetrogelOnce again you are wrong, in an all inclusive way that is. Why bother to continue? You don't like Nokia, which is fine; you have something to criticize, that's fine too, but get your facts right.
You are right about one thing though i.e. that you seem arrogant. Not because you would be so good at it, more of that you seem to believe that you were. The correct grammar is as Sir_bazz wrote: there's plenty of people. It is a non-standard form when used with apostrophe indicated contraction, an exception or idiom if you will.
The Nokia 808 sensor size is on the same regiment with Nikon 1 CX, not so with Canon G1 X, he clearly had a mix-up there.
The camera functionality is tightly integrated into the RTOS, it is not a completely separate utility with its own CPU and DSP (there is an image pipeline DSP), and therefore you are wrong about the influence of OS.
And finally, isn't it great that you don't have to buy one and that I have already ordered one? We both benefit from the freedom of choice, don't we?
Actually, using a few OS in different products is not unheard-of e.g. Samsung and HTC do that too. There are also technical reasons for doing so, in the case of Nokia 808 one of the reasons is that PureView R&D was started long before Nokia decided to concentrate its efforts towards Microsoft's WP OS. Eventually this technology will find its way to WP powered phones too, but it will take time.