Thing is, I wonder when Nikon and/or Canon might deliver a superzoom with phase detect AF on sensor ... which might affect the relative attractiveness of these. Just speculating!
I know, Panasonic says CDAF is the future, but what if they're wrong?
The FZ150 looked like such a useful tool already, and now they revise it with a constant f/2.8. Awesome.
This is an illustration of how shooting at ISO200 does not necessarily save you from mushy JPEG processing. Smearing still shows in deep shadow on low contrast detail on this shot, which was exposure compensated by 1.6 stops in order to avoid blowing out small areas in the sky. The local sensitivity of this crop is probably equivalent to a higher ISO.
Sergey Borachev: That's one impressive gadget. I am disappointed that it does not seem to have a 3.5 earphone socket and it cannot play DIVX, MP3, and also no games or diaries, calendar apparently. I think we are ready for an Ipod+compact camera.
Sergey, according to reviews, the Nokia 808 does play all kinds of multimedia including the formats you mentioned.BTW, I think a headphone jack should be on every camera that records video. You should not have to audition your stuff to everyone around you just to review it.And I think that since WiFi is being added to cameras, it would make sense for more in-camera RAW development features to be added as well.
Greynerd: It looks like the Canon SX IS superzooms are obviously being specifically excluded for review by DPR. The last one reviewed was the SX20 in 2009. As the SX40 is a popular contender in the class of cameras of which the HX200V is part it is starting to look conspicuous in its absence. The SX30 was never reviewed and it would be nice to compare the see how the SX40 compares against the Nikon 510, Panasonic FZ150 and the Sony whose reviews have been rushed online.
Well, since this Sony review is just an expansion of a dcresource review, you could go look at dcresource for the SX40: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_sx40-review
Very nice to see the AEB button made it on the NX20. Direct control is good! And yes, Digital Zoom on a 20 MP camera just makes sense, and makes those pancake prime lenses that bit more useful ... 9 MP at 1.5x zoom ... my only question is - does the digital zoom work in RAW mode?
thewhitehawk: It's a shame that the compact models don't seem to have as many manual controls as the Nex cameras, at least the Nex 7's. This seems more user-friendly oriented than enthusiast-oriented, it seems to be more in line with the Nex 5 or the Olympus Pen series.
They do look nice though. Not that it matters much to some photographers, but the construction quality and design seems to rival (or borrow heavily) from Sony's cameras, like Samsung usually does.
"borrows features"? Or "brings features to market later"?
CarVac: 1920x810 at 24fps??? What on earth?
The Lord of the Rings, on Blu Ray:Aspect ratio: 2.41:1. Original aspect ratio: 2.39:1
actually, two dials plus iFn dial on the lens...
Nikonworks: Will the sensor smear high ISO JPEG images in the NX20 as the same sensor does in the NX200 as reported in DPReview's review of the NX200?
I hope not. This is what may make me wait rather than my intended pre-order.
If there is "smearing", that would be the image processing engine, specifically the in-camera noise reduction, not the sensor.
GrahamDuthie: Damn, my mac is an obsolete 10.5.8, so no updates for me. Should teach me for keeping a computer for more than three years.
Upgrading the OS just to get support for a new camera isn't always a tasty proposition. I'm glad they are still updating 10.6.
Roland Karlsson: A Suiss army knife is a best seller. Its considered high quality and a good buy. It contains lots of tools, such as knives, scissors and screw drivers. Very neat.
But yet - a knife, a screw driver and a scissor is a better tool. So --- the Suiss army knife is just an emergency kit.
The same goes for all multi tools. They are handy. But if you really want to fasten some screws - a real screw driver is the right tool.
So - if I want to take pictures I want a camera - not a multi tool. But - of course - if I see something I want to photo - and the only thing I have is my phone - I use it.
Just as the Suiss army knife and a real knife both have their place so do a phone with a camera and a a camera.
Then you can discuss whether a non connected camera is useless. To some it may be. But absolutely not to me.
But what if the swiss army knife does well enough in non-emergency situations to satisfy the vast majority of shoppers, and therefore economy of scale simply causes scissors to become a premium niche product used only by seamstresses and professional custom greeting card designers? And the scissor companies react by no longer skimping on materials, and raising the price, and reducing availability in department stores?
Michael Barker: Hi folks,
It deserves to be noted that you *can* change lots of settings while the camera is writing files, as long as you don't try to change certain settings.
Let me explain. Let's say you just took a RAW shot and the green light is flashing, file being written to the card.
All the dials work. You can change Aperture, Shutter, or Exposure Compensation using the top or rear dial. You can press also the iFn button on the lens and get access to ISO, WB, EV with the ring on the lens.
As soon as you press any other buttons though, such as AF/MF or OK or Menu, you see the "Processing" message and you lose access to everything.
So whether this "lockout" is a deal-breaker probably depends on *which* settings you frequently change when shooting RAW.
It seems to me that an obvious firmware improvement would be to cancel the Processing message as soon as the user tries to do something that is allowed - so the "lose access to everything" doesn't happen.
So I guess we can all agree that for some people this buffer handling behaviour isn't a big issue and for other people it is.
For me, most of the time it's not a problem, but the one time it really bugs me is when I am doing shallow DOF work and want very precise focus and to move the point of focus, because I'm unable to use the AF point selection during buffering. This means I am often forced to focus-recompose or be patient. At least with the DMF option turned on, I can focus-recompose and then adjust for parallax error, but this is still an imprecise and hacky workaround. Kind of like shooting wide open with a Leica, I imagine. I'm still a fan of this camera, despite this very unfortunate and annoying shortcoming - it is just ridiculous that you cannot change the AF point until the last shot has been written to the card.
HowaboutRAW: Why on earth is anybody commenting on noise in high ISO jpegs?
Wait for the raws, and the software to extract those raws.
Hard to take anyone who makes this jpeg comment mistake as being seriously interested in digital photography. It's a big mistake, and shows profound ignorance.
(If I missed someone who commented, "well these high ASA jpegs are noisy, I'll wait for the raws and good extraction software", then my comment doesn't apply to that someone.)
The scene is worst case, as the article stated, and by using OOC JPEG we have worst case processing also.
The worst case examples do reflect something about the potential. No final conclusions can be drawn, but the samples are very impressive. If this is the worst case, it's good news for Canon.
Even when JPEG-from-RAW-via-ACR examples are posted, they will not show the full potential, since as dpReview admits repeatedly, they use a pre-canned process which is not fully optimized.
Finally a still camera useful for video production, i.e. one with a headphone jack.
So you don't see a "Processing" sign if you try to change to a different drive mode or AF point for example while a RAW shot is being written to the card?
hattem: Can somebody explain me how to open the Samsung Raw-files? I have LR 3.6 and PSE 7,Faststone and Picasa , but no CS5. With my Panasonic RW2-files no problem.
Adobe DNG Converter can convert them to DNG, and then you can open them with a wide variety of programs.
Najinsky: The iFn button is really useful. I test the handling when the local shops get a stock copy, and of all the Mirror-less cameras I've tried the Samsung is one of the easiest to pick up and use, thanks to the iFn. If you haven't tried it, check it out next time you see one.
I'm another that eliminated this due to no eye level finder option, although it would now have been eliminated due to the buffer/pipeline clearing issue, quite shoddy that. And a little concerning for the NX20 or whatever the version with a finder gets called.
I use the iFn when I have the kit lens attached, to get a three dial control system for aperture, shutter and ISO in manual mode.
orishka: Am I missing a word about this (expensive) samsung camera having an articulated/moveable display?
They chose a much larger display (4:3 vs. 16:9) vs. NEX at the expense of not tilting.