I've had the RX100 and LX5, but this is the game-changed. No longer is the 1" sensor the desirable sensor for large-sensor compacts. Now it is the m43 sensor. Move over RX100-series. I can't accept anything less than a m43 sensor in a compact from now on.
However, I might hold off getting this. I'm quite happy with my Sony A6000. I look forward to this type of m43 compact getting up to 20MP. That'd be awesome with the Leica lens sharpness. Two more years with the next model and I might jump on board.
danieladougan: Your move, Olympus.
Perhaps a Pen E-P7 (or E-PL8) with a built-in EVF? I'd also like phase detect autofocus, please. Does the GM5 include in-body stabilization?
The hybrid EVF/OVF that you see in some of the Fuji cameras is also an intriguing idea.
GM5 does not have in-body stabilisation which means that, when it uses Olympus M43 lenses there is no stabilisation - since Olympus bodies have in-body stabilisation. That lack is one of the reasons why I decided against the GM1, and which would deter me from getting the GM5.
40daystogo: Earlier this year, I was deciding which to get from Sony A6000, Olympus OM-D EM-10, and the Lumix GM1. I went with the Sony A6000, but upon seeing the above announcement of the GM-5 I reviewed the extra features intently to see if I might be tempted to switch back (since my investment in Sony lenses is not great thus far). In-camera stabilisation would be useful for using Olympus m43 lenses on the Lumix camera.
Hence, I am glad for the EVF and the improved button layout. I played with the GM1 in stores for quite a while, and found that the GM1's rotating wheel was fiddly to use at such a small size. The new control button looks far better. However, I like my purchase of the A6000, and nothing in the GM5 made me regret the purchase. Now, if the GM5 had in-camera stabilisation, I would really consider ditching the Sony and going for the GM5, but I'll wait to see how this line of cameras evolve in the future.
BarnET. Yes, I also considered the Lumix GX7 as part of a range of m43 bodies. Decisions come down to what's most important to each person. Two issues did it for me: (1) I love street photography, and when I tried the A6000 in the store it nailed focus so rapidly compared to the other models I played with. (2) I love super wide photography, and the Sony 10-18 SEL1018 lens is so lightweight with a constant f4 aperture. That lens sold me on the Sony. In spite of what many say, I find OSS useful even in an ultrawide angle for low light photography. Hence, if the corresponding Lumix had in-body stabilization, it would let me use the Olympus 9-18 in stabilization mode. Also, there's the attraction of a larger APS-C sensor for not much trade-off in size and weight compared to the GX7.
Earlier this year, I was deciding which to get from Sony A6000, Olympus OM-D EM-10, and the Lumix GM1. I went with the Sony A6000, but upon seeing the above announcement of the GM-5 I reviewed the extra features intently to see if I might be tempted to switch back (since my investment in Sony lenses is not great thus far). In-camera stabilisation would be useful for using Olympus m43 lenses on the Lumix camera.
raztec: Oh Nikon! Why can you never get it right?Af-ON button and 1/8000 shutter speed would have made this the perfect camera.
Just to clarify: people like myself who yearn for an AF-ON button want it in addition to the AE-L/AF-L button. Back when I had a Nikon D300, I used the AE-L/AF-L to lock in the exposure, and used the AF-ON for focus locking.
No doubt you can re-program one to function as the other, but what we are asking for is two side-by-side buttons, with a dedicated AF-ON button that we can use alongside the exposure-lock button.
harshikr: Love the camera and its fastest AF features.The following things are not cool. No hot shoe cover. Movie mode button position is not convenient. Usb charger is not good. Not weather sealed No touch screen & in very low light can't see the object properly through the screen / live view
> Hot shoe cover - available from ebay for $3> External charger - available on eBay for $10> In low light, use viewfinder. If you're the sort of person that wants to use a touchscreen, and don't want to use the viewfinder, the recent Sony A5100 seems a better fit for you.
Picmark: I own a number of Canon lenses including L 70-300mm zoom lens. Is there an adapter I can purchase to fit this in Sony A6000? Thanks!
Search Google for - metabones canon adapter
40daystogo: In life, the vast majority of people think short term, and recognize but ignore long term consequences. Even those who pride themselves as long-term thinkers actually don't act on what they know. Hence, far-sighted people are very rare in society. Thus Adobe's CC lulls people with short term benefits.
For myself, I'm not walking into the trap of LR's false assurances that it is won't become CC-only. I'm going with either Capture One or DXO.
mumintroll, it would have been good if you included DXO in your IQ tests since I'm considering that too. Did you get to try DXO in comparison to Capture One?
In life, the vast majority of people think short term, and recognize but ignore long term consequences. Even those who pride themselves as long-term thinkers actually don't act on what they know. Hence, far-sighted people are very rare in society. Thus Adobe's CC lulls people with short term benefits.
40daystogo: Why would anyone choose to get either the Lumix FZ1000 or the Sony RX10 - both of which only have 1" sensors - when Sony's A6000 with 18-200mm lens cost roughly the same as the RX10 (admittedly before the discount), and which has a larger APS-C lens, with the A6000 combo weighing less than the RX10?
Sirandar, my point was the A6000 and 18-200 approximated the focal range of the RX10, plus giving a larger sensor. With the 18-200 you would not need to change any lenses. But if you did want to add a super wide, the A6000 would give that option with a very lightweight 10-18 lens which is less than 300 grams.
Why would anyone choose to get either the Lumix FZ1000 or the Sony RX10 - both of which only have 1" sensors - when Sony's A6000 with 18-200mm lens cost roughly the same as the RX10 (admittedly before the discount), and which has a larger APS-C lens, with the A6000 combo weighing less than the RX10?
40daystogo: When a Nikon 1 series camera body, with a 1" sensor, is bigger than a Sony A6000 with an APS-C sensor, things are getting weird.
I meant the V3 is heavier than the A6000.
When a Nikon 1 series camera body, with a 1" sensor, is bigger than a Sony A6000 with an APS-C sensor, things are getting weird.
Yarnim: Somewhat late to the party I guess, but guys, a question from a relative newbie.
Just ordered A6000 so waiting for it in the mail, but would it make sense at all to get this and the B&H Zeiss 12&32 lens combo?
One of the strongest aspects of the A6000 is its amazing focus speed, but apparently, neither of those lenses even offer PDAF and their focus mechanism kinda sux with a huge, unpleasant focusing motor noise and slow focusing.
I do get that their optics are pretty good, but not much ahead compared to Sony's SEL1018 for the 12mm zeiss, and the 32mm not very much compared to sigma 30mm.
Any thoughts, advises? TIA!
I only have the SEL1018, so I can't compare. But you can check out test results at www.photozone.de and www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare.
You can consider how much the lens stabilisation of the 10-18 helps compensate for its supposed lesser image quality.
The tests from several websites indicate that 5.6 is the optimum aperture, and I use Aperture-Priority to shoot at that aperture. I'm very pleased with the sharpness.
mosc: I want an A-mount version of the A6000 with a proper grip, preferably in a $999 package with that 16-50 f2.8 lens of theirs. Who's with me? SLT be damned, just rip it out and let the chip do the work.
Apart from the issue of aggravating existing A-mount owners, I can't see any other reason for Sony to keep the A-mount alive. The E and FE mount seems the way of the future. With the Sony A7 family, what is the point of prolonging the A series camera family? Pull the plug and get the A mount users to transition to the A7 series with adapters.
DPJoe2: Is there any detailed book on how to use all the functions of the a6000? I have the camera, but something is preventing me from getting large burst rates. What setting am I missing?
In the Drive-mode icon, by going up and down the left hand column, you select whether to go single, continuous or self-timer. When on the continuous icon, you can use the wheel to go left or right to give options for Hi, Mid and Lo. While it is a buzz to shoot at Hi to get 11 frames per second, I find that in ordinary shooting I get too many shots when I press the shutter button. So I set it for Mid or Lo, unless I'm doing fast action stuff.
What is the point of having an EVF if the whole camera weights about the same as DSLR's from other manufacturers? For a product that's meant to challenge Canon and Nikon, surely Sony should have gotten the weight for this down into the range of the A7?
I bet there are different departments at Sony, and each one is doing their own thing.
Sony would be better of giving us a stripped down version of the A7 - same shape, same weight, but dumbed down features at lower cost.
This A77 looks like a hunk of plastic - a monstrosity.
Zoron: no built-in stabilization....so no for me.
peevee: "Hence, image stabilization belongs on a sensor side. Especially with mirrorless where focusing is also works off the sensor. Even Panasonic understands it now - get GX7 if you are a Pana fan."
Comment: but with GX7, if lens has in-lens stabilisation, then the in-body stabilisation is overridden, and the in-lens takes over. Hence, does not give ability to use in-body stabilisation when the lens has its own stabilization.
Saw it in the store. Has to be one of ugliest, most ungainly cameras I've seen in several decades of being into photography. I owned the original Nikon FE, FE2, FM and FM2's, which were really attractive cameras in their day, and I still keep my old FE2 as a keepsake, but I have to say this new digital Df looks like a Frankenstein. It's just ugly. The thing is, I really like the design of Nikon's other DSLR's, and I've owned a few Nikon DSLRs over the last few years - but this Df looks like it's made of Lego bricks. I'm curious how many of these Nikon have sold, and whether the people who buy them value the appearance of their cameras?
i've been into photography for 36 years, and even though, as a Nikon Leica fan, I've never bought any Pentax or Ricoh products, I feel more warm fuzzies towards Pentax than Ricoh.