Sunshine4784: Well Pentax used FA 77mm f1.8 limited lens while Nikon used 85mm f1.4 lens. Pentax 645 used 90mm macro lens which is very expansive lens but inferior to Nikon and Pentax FF. Both Pentax 645 and Nikon shot in 2014 btw. Pentax FF should try recent 85mm lens but they don't have it...
Base on images from LR, Pentax 645 is very useless. It's not even sharper than 77mm f1.8 while Pentax 645 used that god damn expansive macro lens. Pixel shift is not that impressive from this images. I demand better testing with pixel shift.
Anyway, both Nikon and Pentax should try similar lenses. FA 77mm f1.8 is basically a film lens.
What richardplondon said. If viewed in full size, the 645 clearly has more details than any of the others, but shows a little CA in the corners (I wonder if that has been corrected in the RAW development of the Nikon image or if that lens is 100% CA free?).
Head over to Imaging Resource - they have serious information about this camera and already a hands on preview!
ttran88: I'm a current K5iis and A7 shooter and if this FF camera comes with an EVF I will make this my next camera. Almost certain will come with a Sony sensor, same as D750 with Pentax pixie dust. I wonder if the 3 FA limited lenses will go up in value now?
Look at that prism hump! Years will pass before EVF technology is even comparable to the OVF of this camera.
I like the looks! Huge pentaprism on a really compact camera.
There's no reason to think that 2001 will repeat itself. That camera was stopped because the Philips sensor didn't deliver the required IQ. Contax went ahead and released a camera with that inferior sensor. Look what happened to them! Pentax was wise to stop the MZ-D project.
brendon1000: This is the reason why I didn't go with Pentax when I started out photography.
Slow prime lenses are OK if they are reasonably priced. But come on $700 for a slow 21mm f3.2 and $800 for a 15mm f4 ?
Not denying build quality is good but there are so many cheaper lenses out there than you can buy the cheap lenses twice and still come out on top price wise.
I think an m43 system will offer faster but similar size lenses on smaller bodies.
Wide aperture is not the only metric for good lenses. The DA15 is a very unique lens, with wonderful rendering and absolutely incredible flare resistance. Color, contrast and flare resistance is so good that I wonder if it's really possible for the HD version to make a visible difference!
fotonix: I own two OLD Pentax cameras that I passed on to my children - a 6mpx W10 (still Pentax) and a 10mpx W60 (Hoya). Rain, pool or normal conditions - fairly Ok images. Given that both are compacts with massive shutter delay, but I have taken some wonderful images with both due to their unobtrusive and portable size. As I'm not in the pool all the time I currently carry around a Canon G11.I have looked at the newer rugged options - evaluated, read reports, even went hands-on in stores. With this last step is where the wheels come off for the new cameras. Operation is a pain, reliability is terrible, buttons are low quality and don't respond (before we even leave the store). My $$ stay firmly in my wallet. In another headline a few days back, CIPA were noting a massive drop in sales. Well, if you make bad quality nobody will buy. Word gets around. Eg: the "Leica" Lumix T5 .. junk. Horrid unresponsive 'controls'. Review score was way high if you ask me. And so it goes on...
I have the W10, too, and while IQ isn't the greatest, especially at the tele end of the zoom range, it's been a very reliable camera (6 years now, and I only changed sealings once, 4 years ago). I really prefer its unobtrusive design to the current models - I'm not going to replace this camera before there is a larger-sensor alternative with significantly better IQ (or if it won't survive the next beach holiday)!
mmitch: Pentax needs to catch up to the rest of the Camera Companies and release a Full Frame body! I really got tired of waiting and switched to Nikon. I owned a K5 it's a great camera, but it's limited lens selection and lack of interest by Pentax to further the company along I can no longer support.
mmitch: (sorry didn't see your reply before now)No, I meant MF as in medium format.
Strange comment coming from an MF user, mmitch - unlike Canon and Nikon, Pentax actually offers a great MF system...
645D: Now it's priced like a Hassy... That's what Ricoh take over meant:-(
IMHO, it's no doubt that the D800 is getting very close to the 645D, so the next 645D model needs to get both more mp and possibly also a larger sensor. Btw. my little pet theory is that while the Japanese version of this lens, the D-FA 25mm, may be good enough for film, it may not be the best performer on a digital 645 FF camera. By making the "world version" a crop only lens, they have guarded themselves against getting too many future complaints...
umbalito: DA Limited Zoom??!! DA Limited Zoom! DA Limited Zoom!
Not quite sure what to make of the DA* ultra zoom either. From the markings on the chart, it almost looks like a 24-80. Pretty useless for APS-C. I doubt they can make an 18-200 f/2.8? Unless they're turning the DA* nomenclature to mean weather-sealed only, and no longer constant aperture and weather-sealed.
Yes, it looks like it could be a 17-85 or thereabouts, but I'm thinking that it's all a bit diffuse because they don't to reveal if this is for an upcoming FF DSLR or not ;)
Richard: You would never actually go anywhere with it - because of weight and size, or because it's so expensive?
00112233: Pentax 645D body is 156x117x119mm and weights 1480g. incl. batt.Canon EOS 1DX as announced is 158x164x83mm and weights "TBC"Now, to find out what TBC is we can assume that physically has the same type of construction and materials as the EOS 1D Mark IV which is smaller and weights 1230g. incl. batt., the 1DX will then weight more, specially if we include the wireless file transmitter and the GPS receiver. The difference in weight between the 645D and the 1DX will become very small indeed. So I wonder who is going to have pains in shoulders. Fortunately most professionals have assistants that help carrying equipment!
It has no ExpSim? I guess it doesn't even come with a coffee brewer, then?