Clint Dunn: I can't believe how many nutjob comments on here from the 'Truther' fools saying this is fake...'like the moon landing'. What has society come to that masses of people have such a distrust for their gov't that they want to re-write history. Some of these idiots even think the Earth is flat:http://anonhq.com/the-flat-earth-conspiracy-is-nasa-fooling-the-world/
Please tell me most of you were just fooling around or trying to be ironic...and not just complete morons.
Nice Eric! Just as I predicted. Once again I'm vindicated. I'll take that as an admission of defeat. Apparently you don't understand how the scientific method works. Most people don't.
Specifically I am referring to Apollo 15.
Ok Eric, maybe you can enlighten me on the explanation because I've never seen it explained.
Eric, yes, statistics don't prove anything. What is proof that the moon landings were a hoax is the complete lack of dust on the lander or any hint of a blast crater, as revealed by nasa's own high res images. This, despite the official transcript stating that the dust clouds were so thick they couldn't see our the windows and had to use instruments to land. And the nozzle of the rocket came to rest an inch from the dust surface after supposedly hitting the ground and being crumpled as a result. Yet not a hint if a mark in the ground. No possible explanation for that.
Amazing that you classify the moon hoaxers with flat earthers. So you find it more believable that they went to the moon like 6 times without a single casualty when they only managed to put people into orbit like 20 years later using the massive Space Shuttles with several catastrophic missions? You don't find it the least bit odd that they never went back to the moon after 40 years?
"Are you for real?? 'Scientific literacy and objectivity' is what makes fools like you think the moon landing never happened and the earth is flat??? Ok...."
Correct. I look at the evidence without formulating an opinion based on what anyone has previously tried to convince me. I apply all the scientific principles I know and come to a determination. Based on that approach, the Moon landing was a hoax because it is not possible based on the known laws of physics for some of the evidence to be reconciled with the story that men went to the Moon.
Edit: except for your flat Earth comment which was you putting words in my mouth. Obviously the Earth is round.
dave veneri: Consider that if only 1% of the U.S. residents were fruit cakes and off their rockers ( like the ones who doubt these photos or think the Govt. is constantly out to doop us) then that means a whopping 3 MILLION people are mentally out to lunch! keep that fact in mind as I'm most certain that many of those 3 million are members of this forum.
It's a poor argument technique that the moon landing believers always end up insulting the hoaxers' sanity. I chalk that up to the fact that they can't refute the points on a scientific basis and have to revert to ad hominen mudslinging. I could flip your statistic around and point out how 99% if the people out there are brainwashed followers who get spoonfed their beliefs, unable to think for themselves and use proper analysis. Do a little thought experiment in your head for me: what would be your state of mind if the evidence forced you to believe that the conspiracy theorists were actually right, and you were wrong?
ChaosCloud: Beautiful CGI
Sure I'll be interested in the Jupiter mission. Did I ever say this image was a fake? No I said it looks legit. All I said was that the Moon landing was a hoax and therefore everything NASA says should be scrutinised.
My world view used to tell me that NASA sent men to the moon. A couple years ago I had to change that view.
It tells me they don't try to look at the evidence objectively because to believe it was a hoax is just too far out there to even entertain the possibility. While the scientific method works by rogue scientists questioning conventionally accepted understanding, in reality scientists are generally social conformists.
zodiacfml: Impressive as we're so used to small sensor, low fps video under the water. The equipment deserves more footage and better composition as macro does not seem best for this. The underwater dirt travelling fast in the video is annoying which I thought at first is just my eye with my "floaters".
I have those annoying things too
Cool, I have a trip planned up in the Chilcotins in August. Where specifically did you see the bears? I met one after dark one night camping in the middle of nowhere with my dog... wouldn't leave us alone for an hour and a half.
I'm bringing my Nikkor 200-500 which I really like, and the D300. I'd like a D500 but can't justify the expense.
If you want to read my trip report it is here:http://forums.mtbr.com/bikepacking-bike-expedition/chilcotins-trip-july-2015-a-980959.html
Who knows if the image is real. It looks legit to me although that one tire track is straight while the treads are zig-ag. I can't explain that. However, given that scientific scepticism confirms that the moon landings were a hoax, everything NASA says deserves to be second guessed.
MikeFairbanks: This is remarkable. It's hard to believe it's really Mars. Looks just like California, Nevada or Arizona.
I know that the density of the Martian atmosphere is only about 1% of ours, so we cannot survive without a suit or dome of some kind, but I wonder if you could survive for five to ten seconds unaided (in order to feel the air and ground). That would be something.
Then, of course, you would have to somehow figure out how to get back inside quickly, including dealing with rapid pressure changes.
Just a thought.
I heard you'd lose consciousness after about 10 seconds then be dead within a minute. I google searched this a few months ago. You don't explode but you do get bubbles in all your tissues which can go away if you are repressurized in time. You can make a full recovery. That scene in the movie Total Recall actually did a decent job of animating what would happen if you were exposed to the Martian atmosphere.
I am heartened by the number of truthers posting here. I think that speaks to the scientific literacy and objectivity of people frequenting this site! There may be hope for humanity yet.
AshMills: Who makes these now Stanley Kubrick has died?
Thanks FDD5, I appreciate your open mind. Being a former believer in the mainstream I have over the last few years converted over to "conspiracy theorist" It is incredibly frustrating to see the lengths people will go to to deny evidence that contradicts their views. If you would like I can provide 99.9999% evidence that the moon landings were faked based on NASA's own transcripts and photographs about the Apollo 15 landing. You probably already know it but the links directly to the NASA website really seal the deal.
M1963: I hate having neighbours, so this looks like a nice place to live. Unfortunately, I'd have to give up swimming, but there'd be a lot of room to sunbathe.
Atmosphere? Where we're going we don't need an atmosphere!
stromaroma: Why does the image move by itself? Really annoying, I want it to stay put where I am looking.
No it still moves
villagranvicent: Looks pretty similar to the film set they use to film the moon landing.
At least this one has dust on it
zodiacfml: If we can get high resolution images and other scientific details remotely from Mars, why are many people fixated on sending people there while there aren't any existing machinery or equipment in Mars that can assist with such goals.
I'd say, throw more robots and machines at the planet before we send any living thing there.
They couldn't even send people to the Moon