kadardr: It is not just the look, but more the feel, when you hold it, manipulate with the knobs and wheels, check out the VF and the menu, so try it. And then if the camera and the price fits you, you buy it. Actually, for instance, the Olympus XA was great, because the looks and feel (and size) was all exceptionally good. And it had no weather sealing. This classic look is more a fashion thing though, but it works in sales, so I do not mind. The message is: try before you buy!
I had a Olympus XA decades ago! Beautiful camera, but the viewfinder was immediately full of dust and the pictures had strong vignetting. I returned it..... So it's a good advice to first test before to buy
Valentinian: DPREVIEW writes:'the most direct competitors for the PEN-F are probably Sony's a6000 and Fujifilm's just-announced X-E2S - both of which are APS-C format cameras".
The only mention of the GX8 was that the Pen F uses the same sensor of the GX8.
In my opinion Pen-F and GX8 are not so terribly different in size: http://camerasize.com/compact/#654,629,ha,f I appreciate the grip on the Lumix and the on/off switch near the shutter release. I have a E-M10II and hate that switch on the left side!
SungiBr: Man, look at that ISO pull-up collar!You can't be more 'retro' than that.
And I like it!
sorry, in film days I had to set the ISO once for a film type (and mostly used the same all the time in one body), and it was o.k. to pull and turn that collar. But in digital days ISO changing has to be done quickly and in my opinion this is not the adequate way
cosinaphile: insanely ugly... why not take a page from sony nex or fuji rangefinder style ....clunky looking crap from canikon shows a cluelessness that cannot be excused
in reality the camera is not as ugly as on the pictures!
a few days too late, Canon! I was waiting for years for a small camera with a good viewfinder and meanwhile gave up hoping for Canon. I bought an Olympus OM-D E-M 10 Mk.II with small pancake zoom these days. Not really much bigger, but interchangeable lenses, bigger sensor and same price.
For a firmware update I expected the ability to use the display surface as a trackpad while using the electronic viewfinder, a feature Olympus introduced in the OM-D E-M 10 mark II.
Glen Barrington: You know that looks like a remarkably small lens for an f/0.95 max aperture, (though large-ish for an m43s prime). I'm old enough to remember that in the 1960's and 70s, an f/0.95 would have been big even for a "FF" 35 mm camera.
I wonder what technology is used to keep it reasonably small?
the free lens diameter must be 26mm (25mm / 0,95) ! ...plus a little bit more in the front and rear elements to avoid too much vignetting!
attomole: The reason it does not have a viewfinder is that Canon are not fully serious about this bit of the market yet, they know what features it needs.
They could read in this forum to learn about the wishes of their worldwide customers!
I don't know if the optics have been changed since version II, but the bokeh is undoubtedly better since the aperture blades have a rounder shape (and are seven instead of five).
Question about HDR pocessing in LR6:have the different exposures to be taken from tripod, or ist it possible to take them hand-held? My 5D Mk.III is able to put the images together, even when they are slightly different in framing, but the HDR - JPGs out of the cam are not so much satisfying.
Dougbm_2: They are so afraid to 'contaminate' their DSLR range that they are unable to produce a decent mirrorless camera. With a quality EVF this would have outgunned both Panasonic and Sony in the high end bridge segment. As it is they land a product in no mans land again. Pity. I would have considered this as a good partner to my Canon 5D.
I fully agree!
Lan: I know I'm swimming against the tide here, but I can't understand why anyone would buy a camera because it's small, and then deliberately go and make it bigger?!?
Use two hands to hold the camera (any camera) and the grip problem is solved. You don't need to buy a grip, you need to get a grip ;)
I have the Franiec grip on my S95 and really love it. So I can use the camera with one hand and have no fear to drop it (for instance when riding a bicyle or climbing a rock). The lens still ist the biggest part on the front of the camera. I didn't have to buy a bigger camera bag.
The boarder on the right side is very soft, not exactly what I exspect from a Leica lens! Centering problems? But very nice colors and overall image quality.
Rainer2022: Especially in Germany, Kokak is not renowned for it's cameras. It's just the maker of Kodachrome and other films...In Germany or Europe the price tag will be the only argument to buy this one. And people who are looking at the price tag, will get themselves no system camera. :-(
That is not true! I know Kodak cameras since the fifties when I was born! Remember Instamatic Cameras? Everyone had one.
mpgxsvcd: "I hate it" says no one.
Take note Canon. You put out the same camera over and over again with a different name and no one can tell the difference between it and the previous model.
Sony keeps telling us that it is just an updated version of the existing model and everyone can instantly tell how much it has actually improved even though the name hasn't.
Canon and Nikon have nothing that can directly compete with this camera. And no the G1 X MII doesn't compete with it. It's lens is not fast enough. It is too big. And it sensor size really isn't that much bigger.
...and the canon has no EVF! It's a pity :-(
If Canon had implemented a good built-in EVF, I really would buy this camera for hiking- /biking tours. Could drop the flash instead.Sorry, Canon, no viewfinder, no buy.
aramgrg: With such costs, why haven't they bought(or at least rented) D800E, I think the difference would have been visible!
you mean, 12000 Megapixel are not enough? (567x21MP)
Provia_fan: I can't understand the complaints about "retro" dials. I think the problem stems from the over simplification of designs over the years and the fact that people just want instant results, instant everything. In the old days you had to learn a given camera not expect the camera "to learn you". External controls are great and give you immediate control over features, instead of having to borrow into menus when you should be concentrating in picture taking. This is one of the reasons why I still love my Minolta 7D so much. Everything you need is one button or one click away, which is so much more logical. You learn the camera, you learn the buttons and you learn how many clicks for your exposure compensation, WB, etc and off you go. Not having to take you eye off the viewfinderto go into menus is a major bonus.
Indeed this new Fuji reminded me instantly of the Minolta 7D. I like this control layout!