i do hope that black wrinkled surface is real leather, considering the price of these cameras.
i think having to remove the base plate in order to access the SD slot is cumbersome. other manufacturers have better solutions on their "weatherproof" bodies.
myung keun: I have seen many complain about LEICA product's pricing, but I have yet to come across on single person, who doesn't blush when holding a LEICA rangefinder in their hands. I complained, too....from a distance. Then I wrapped my hands around one and I knew instantly that I was paying for a solid experience. Scoffing at brands that increase prices according to brand value and positioning forget that paying for an image of something is the same as choosing to wear a suit to an interview and asking for higher salary.
ok, now it makes more sense.
my point was: paying for a Leica just so that you get the image of a Leica owner is not similar to wearing a suit to an interview. I don't know about you, but I've been taught that the suit is mandatory at job interviews (at least for serious jobs). it's a sign of respect to present yourself well groomed and wearing a nice attire. paying to get the appearance of a photography initiate is called "posing".
so did you end up buying a Leica, or was that more of a "petting zoo" experience?
Searching: Yuk, made in China.
right, but why are most of them made in china? it's cheaper. why is it cheaper? lax regulation is one of the reasons. would most people chose to pay a lot more for the same gear if it were to be made in Japan or the US? i don't believe so, which is why things are not made in said countries.
I don't think any company wants to outsource their labor - it's a lot easier to work with people that are near you than with people in a foreign country. it is our fault that they are forced to outsource, because we want to save money.
so, to the point: if the OP complains that the product is made in China but would be willing to pay the extra markup for the same product were it to be made in Japan, the remark is valid. otherwise it is just wishing to have your cake and eating it at the same time.
if it were to be made in America (by a Japanese company, right?), you would complain that it costs $3,000. environmental standards cost extra.
PBR Streetgang: The camera shown costs less than the bag. Perhaps a Hasselblad Lunar would have been more representative of the target market. ;-)
no, a Nikon Df. maybe the gold plated model.
AV Janus: I am still reading around trying to understand what this product actually does and why would we need one...
LOL! Just saw that its $550... ...cause the pocket flash light just won't do, it won't give you that sublime (oh I spent 500 so it's better an my photos are now worth more) feeling, right?
> implying that clients will be impressed by the value of your gear into paying more.
i think this might be a light saber, but using colder plasma (hence the name "ice"). it's probably not able to cut through space ship bulkhead doors.
paulski66: Silly, overpriced photography gear. Can you mount a Lecia to it? If so, it might sell.
but can you mount "Le CIA"?
pretty good price.
Marcin 3M: In 25 years from images of the real world to the real world of fake images...PS changed the meaning and value of photographical document. Unfortunately, in the disastrous way.
well, it's not like they forced us to like a fake reality.
Stollen1234: any great rebate while celebrating 25 years?
pay 25% extra on all products!
Marty4650: People who enjoy paying $10 a month for the rest of their lives to get the latest tools are right. This is the "best deal for them" even if it is a very poor deal for others. But there are plenty of other people who don't want or need to upgrade every year. And their attitude seems to be... "that's their problem.... I got what I want."
I wonder if these those people lease their cars rather than buy them? I wonder if they upgrade to every release of Microsoft Office? Do they rent their homes? Or rent their furniture? Do they upgrade their wives every year?
I think the whole point of the complaints is that Adobe stopped giving you a choice of renting or buying. Everyone has to rent now, or use some other software. Take it or leave it.
This may be great for the people who were upgrading every year anyway, and for Adobe's bottom line, but it shouldn't be hard to understand why other people would rather own their homes, cars, furniture or software rather then renting.
believe it or not, in today's world, it is sometimes considered "backwards" to own a car or a home. i red that in Germany about 90% of the people rent. the wise "HR specialists" tell us that we should be flexible and rent, so that we may jump from job to job anywhere in the world, family and friendships be damned! I have met French people that said that not only do they lease their car, the contract specifies a certain maximum yearly mileage.
we, the people that would much rather own our possessions, seem to be a disappearing breed. globalization creates a New Man (like Communism tried), not tied down by anything, be it property or sentimental value, always chasing the latest and greatest until the grave. we can call this "Homo Consumeristus" (pardon my abominable Latin, I never liked this language).
but, hey, all this increasing anxiety in today's world is a boon to those who "cure" it.
Horshack: This is all fine and good except that a MFT drone @ f/2.8 is really equivalent to a full-frame drone @ f/5.6. I like the shallowest DOF possible when my drone is invading the privacy of my neighbor's yard.
oh, boy, epileptic seizure delivery! this really is a push-button age!
no, no, you got the equivalence all wrong. it is a drone at f2.8 that is equivalent to a boeing 737 at f5.6, which is equivalent to an airbus a380 at f8, in turn being equivalent to the space shuttle at f11. i mean, come on, get the math right!
jjlmoose: So one day I asked Siri, "where is the nearest came store?" After 'thinking' for a few seconds 'she' replied "what's wrong with the camera you're holding?" I laughed out loud, asked again and got a more normal response with some camera stores in the area (if you consider Best Buy a camera store). Apple's marketing obviously doesn't think you need anything else, and it seems to be working... Try it and see what happens.
if i wanted my camera to talk back at me i would have asked for C&C in the dpreview forums.
CameraLabTester: "Let me hear your ball of Leicas ringing outCome and keep your comrade warm.I'm back in the Total Recall. You don't know how lucky you are boysBack in the TotalBack in the TotalBack in the Total Recall!"
FodgeandDurn: We all know that Leica cameras cost more than they are worth as photographic tools. However their commitment to design, purity of purpose and quality is definitely appealing. One day I hope they make a camera that I will feel compelled to spend $3000 on and love for years. This camera is not that.
People I can imagine seeing with this camera:
Dmitry Medvedev (previously seen with a Hasselblad Lunar)David Beckham (and any other 'stylish' footballer you care to name)Young fashionable tourists with unfathomably rich parentsRoman AbramovichKanye WestParis HiltonCharles Saatchietc etc.
It has some lovely heritage - that lens for example - but we all know it isn't a serious tool, and anyone who knows cameras knows that the Ricoh GR, Fuji X100T, A7+Zeiss, RX1 etc etc etc etc are better. This is a camera for people who are too rich and vapid to use Google.
that "my first Manual mode" operating style disqualifies this camera as a "serious tool".
this is the Leica "Nanny State" model. manual controls until it decides it knows better than you. there should be a firmware update that automatically plays reality shows, sitcoms or game shows while the camera changes the settings to "what you should be using".
maybe in the next model they could pre-load a memory card with some nice "Leica look" photos, so you wouldn't have to worry your pretty little head with how to change its settings.