Infms: Innovation? Not really.
My 40 month old Nokia N8 has bigger sensor photosites (not to mention a hardware shutter and Xenon flash).
Why are other manufacturers taking so long?
Awesome. Now Sony just needs to include that in their latest flagship.
Innovation? Not really.
HappyVan: Cor Blimey!
All this effort to review a camera phone? Really?
Congratulations! You have just established which camera phone is best. But, are you buying a phone just for the camera?
DPReview is owned by Amazon.com so resources aren't exactly scarce.
And besides, this is the mobile photography section of DPReview so what else did you expect to find here?
Sirandar: The Samsung S4 looks the best compared to this roundup, especially in the corners
The S4 over sharpens images WAY too much. Trust me, I own one.
DotCom Editor: Two days, and I'm only the second to comment. That's about all the market research you'll ever need regarding "Windows Phone."
Is such a snide remark really necessary?
Windows Phone just happens to run the best camera phone hardware. If more people here aren't using it, too bad.
Great to see Windows Phone gaining momentum!
A huge plus that the 1020 zoom brings is the constant aperture throughout the zoom range.
Point ‘n shoots don’t often have this. If ever.
I still don't 'get' Vine.
Has our attention span really been reduced to 6 second chunks?
Daniel Stehura: Great camera for a phone. The first panorama shot is really impressive. I like the Quad core processor they are using and screen size. Nice work from LG!!! I hope 128GB is the normal storage with 13m.p. per shot. Apple needs to discontinue anything less than 128GB on all of their products. Memory is dirt cheap. For the people down grading from a DSLR your all washed up and never were into photography. You complain your DSLR camera is heavy but drag a 50 lb. belly around all your life. Keep on down grading until you get a pencil and paper to capture your precious moment's.
Wow, this is a bitter sounding comment. Bad day huh?
fuego6: sigh.. windows phone... oh Nokia... what could have been!
Try it before you knock it... incredibly stable and slick OS.
kriztian: Why don´t you all have a look at this shootout between iphone 5s and lumia 1020. http://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-camera-compared-to-nokia-1020-2013-9It´s redicoulous to see how some people try to elevate the iphone 5 S when its not deserved. There are practically no change at all in pic-quality from iphone 5
@vFunct Instagram is the most important camera app? DPReview's readership standard has clearly declined.
vlad0: Where is the 808 ?
The 808 is undoubtedly the best camera phone but irrelevant in today's market due to its aging (but great) OS.
HarrieD7000: So much fuzz for these crappy pictures? I use a phone to make my calls and a camera to make pictures. These "tests" look to me as a cheap kind of advertisement. It is a pity DPR can't make more articles with real camera's.
You're missing the point.
This is DPreview CONNECT which deals SPECIFICALLY with mobile photography.
Go and troll somewhere else, buddy.
akira204: It's cool and all how you can compare this to a Nokia 1020 (a dying windows ecosystem). I come from the android world and honestly, this phone is pretty impressive, combined with the Bravia engine 2, Snapdragon 800 processor and the well built in G lens to not make it look and feel over bulky, this phone seems balanced. What if Nokia switched to an Android ecosystem? well, that's a different story. No doubt I would jump on a pureview 808. I've previously had a Nokia 920...the WP8 ecosystem, the over lack of apps and the lag just by loading an app was just too much for me. I currently have a Note 2, was gonna get the Note 3 however the camera for that is exactly like an S4. To each their own. But I would never switch to an ecosystem that is dying slowly. Apps is where it's at for most handset users.
Die hard Android fans are very quick to point out the "inferior" specs of other platform's devices, forgetting that these platforms don't need quad-core CPUs coupled with 8GB RAM to run smoothly.
FlossTycoon: I have been a Nokia Windows smart phone for about a year now. I will dump the system as soon as I can. Internet browsing is limited in so many ways account the rest of the internet world is not interested in writing another version of their software for a limited windows market and Microsoft has not made the effort to come up with their own version of needed programs because, well, they are the god Microsoft, everyone comes to them.Anything which uses Adobe Flash Player is not accessible, some mobile versions of we sites default your phone to a blackberry version which cuts out some of the display, some sites like fox sports will not even open. There are other issues. My assessment is the Windows is not quite ready for prime time. While most cell phones do a software upgrade independently in less than a minute the WinNokia requires a computer connection and download software and may take an hour to complete. I have had issues with Windows Office files.
The Nokia 900 phone is the only phone I have had to replace in nearly 20 years of cell phone use. The display will not take a fall from even a short distance without shattering around the edge. Get a hard shell grip to go around it the moment you buy it. Independent repair businesses will not repair the phone because Nokia will not provide them parts.
If you want a pocket camera buy a pocket camera. If you want a smart phone buy an Android or an iPhone. I do not like the intrusions Google is making into your life with their Microsoft business model but at least it works with the rest of the internet.
Nokia handsets are notorious for being built like tanks. Clearly you got a dud device.
Windows Phone 8 as very different to 7. It has a completely new kernel, being a lot more powerful. Try it before you knock it.
P.S. No iPhone in existence will display Adobe Flash either
Infms: My 12 mpixel Nokia N8 has a pixel size of 1.75uM. Twenty-eight (28) months later HTC are raving about a 4 mpixel sensor with 2.0uM sized pixels? Riiight.
@Timmbits Yep, I do realize this. I'm just surprised that 28 months later the HTC's sensor pixels are now 12.5% larger albeit it only has 4 million of them. Is this really something to get excited about? It'll be interesting to see the final results.
My 12 mpixel Nokia N8 has a pixel size of 1.75uM. Twenty-eight (28) months later HTC are raving about a 4 mpixel sensor with 2.0uM sized pixels? Riiight.
"In qualititative terms it's not the best camera out there, and nor is it the best camera on a smartphone (the Nokia 808 has that honor, for now)"
Surprisingly, the 24 month old Nokia N8 still holds this honor too. With the general consensus being:
#1 Nokia 808#2 Nokia N8#3 Galaxy S3/iPhone 5/etc.
rick1000: MR. Damian Dinning, I appreciate your candor & staright forward comnents and rational for the design trade tradeoffs made when executing the Nokia 808 build. There are many Fortune 500 comapnies that should learn a lesson from your perspective. Consumers understand tradeoffs, we don't like being lied to. I will consider a Nokia product in the future.
@WilliamJ And the alternative? The company going bust and having to fire ALL of its employees? Think for a second... :)
Petrogel: Now makes sense why Nokia is barking for 49mp sensored "smartphone"'Bond-rating agencies took note and promptly downgraded Nokia's debt to junk status,
@Petrogel To quote a comment on the wired.com review...
"This is the most complete phone on the planet and nobody can question that. Or maybe you'd like to give me an example of a phone with a big sensor with quite usable 2-3x zoom, xenon flash, HDMI, FM Transmitter/Radio, Penta-band 3G, SD Card, standby screen showing all the time clock/lost calls, USB OTG, NFC, DLNA, best sound recording available, Dolby Sound, built in profiles, free offline GPS navigation, etc."