CarlosNunezUSA

CarlosNunezUSA

Lives in United States Miami, FL, United States
Works as a Computer Systems Analyst
Has a website at http://www.charlysworld.com
Joined on Sep 3, 2010

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On Adobe releases subscription-only Photoshop CC article (408 comments in total)

...and so it begins, instead of working on real features, they throw a few lousy minimal "revisions" to the people subscribed in order to justify the $$$$ they are spending every month on... nothing. Sweet deal for Adobe, crappy one for the addicts who subscribe to that garbage.

Direct link | Posted on Jun 25, 2013 at 15:35 UTC as 39th comment
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yabokkie: basically Adobe is saying that their creativity and innovation drained up.

Correct, so now they will resort to extort money out of you...

Direct link | Posted on May 14, 2013 at 12:34 UTC
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jm67: People are still posting here? Even I have realized that by now, Adobe just does not care. Everyone will interpret the poll differently but I see it as at best, 1 out of 5 thinks Adobe's move is good. Maybe it's more and they aren't happy about the price but will CC-it anyway but still, Adobe just does not care.

What we really need from DPReview is some constructive help. Polls are fun but we need help with alternatives and not everyone has the time and resources to download and test trials. I remember not too long ago they compared raw converters and I'm going to revisit that article. But more helpful would be a fair review of possible alternatives to photoshop. Please leave out lightroom. I need (not yet but maybe in the future, sooner or later and hopefully later) a replacement for "photoshoping", not just raw conversions. Are you up for it DPReview?

I agree that is evident that Adobe doesnt care, of that 4.3% I think about half are people sent by Adobe to try and influence the poll.
I agree that DPReview could offer some advice and alternatives or even a user from the forums with enough experience can write an article about it.

Direct link | Posted on May 14, 2013 at 12:33 UTC
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Just a Photographer: According to book repository.co.uk - Aperture 4 will be out June 13.
That would be a week before LR 5 comes out of Beta.

Good timing and I think it will add a lot of new features that makes LR5 suck:

source: http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Apple-Aperture-4-John-Lewell/9781133788904

Edit: I might be wrong though. The appearance of this book has been pushed back several times already.

I already switched to Aperture from Lightroom. It was actually pretty easy and painless since I did not invest much in LR anyway. Now I'm looking at the different alternatives to Photoshop - but I'm in no hurry, CS6 will last me for a few years until a real good competitor comes up and wipes the floor with Adobe.

Direct link | Posted on May 14, 2013 at 12:23 UTC
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Rage Joe: Hey could you tell me what does this CC stand for, Criminal Cloud? That's what it must be :)!

Customer Castration

Direct link | Posted on May 13, 2013 at 03:25 UTC
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Andrew Shumaker: What's to stop Adobe from making all "perpetual licenses" invalid and forcing every user to CC? Would seem more foolish than current moves but not by too much.

A Class Action lawsuit. They granted cs6 customers perpetual license. They will pull the plug, but in a subtle manner by not updating the ACR raw engine and waiting for the OS To make CS6 obsolete. Of course by that time I will already be happy working with another software brand and not tied to their greedy scheme. CC for me is not just a "no" it is a "hell NO"

Direct link | Posted on May 12, 2013 at 14:27 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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HywelHarris: OK here's a question for Adobe. Say it all goes well, I'm a happy PS CC user paying my monthly sub and running on my Win 7 64bit dual Xeon box here and Adobe says, maybe 4 or 5 years down the line,

'the next iteration of PS CC will only run on Windows 9, we are closing support of legacy OS's. Please update your system or PS CC will not be able to run'

Whooaaa.... I decide when I u/g my system not you. Well at least thats what I always thought. Now Adobe gets to decide.

In that case you have a problem. If you want the new features, then you have to keep paying Adobe and upgrade your hardware and OS. Never mind if the new OS suck like Windows 8.

If you dont want the new version you will keep paying then for an old and outdated version. Sweet deal huh?

That's why IT departments will "love" Adobe...NOT!

Direct link | Posted on May 11, 2013 at 13:57 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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Peter K Burian: The only good news is that the subscription plan does NOT apply to Lightroom or to Elements.

I think they obviously don't care about the families, etc, they are after the Pros with money in their pockets. Elements, etc is an afterthought, they even said that some features will require CC, so if you want say "16bit" processing in elements, you are out of luck.

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 16:18 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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Peter K Burian: Actually, Photoshop CC will be only $10 per month for the first year for owners of CS3 or a newer version. https://creative.adobe.com/plans Click on Single App .... Click on Requires Annual Commitment ... select Requires CS3+ purchase, and it's $10 per month.

(That just means you must have purchased CS3, or a newer version, some time in the past to get the $10 per month deal.)

Key words Peter "for the first year". After that what? you are at the mercy of Adobe's greed.

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 16:12 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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Peter K Burian: Scott Kelby's perspective on all this. http://scottkelby.com/2013/my-take-on-adobes-announcements-yesterday-at-the-max-conference/

Amazingly, he thinks it's a good idea .. because Adobe will provide new features as they are developed, so no need to wait until a future version of Photoshop is introduced.

Maybe for him with deep pockets it is an amazing idea, every time a new feature comes up he can sell you a new course or send you 1000 emails so you subscribe to his NAPP or whatever is called because X feature is awesome and he can provide you with the "necessary" lessons. Nice huh?

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 16:10 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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Peter K Burian: The only good news is that the subscription plan does NOT apply to Lightroom or to Elements.

It's just a matter of time before the make everything subscription based

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 15:41 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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Mahmoud Mousef: A quick look suggests Adobe are winning.
http://www.adobe.com/investor-relations/financial-documents.html

Yes, and so was Microsoft when they released Windows 8...

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 14:31 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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meltdownman1: This also means that all those writers that put out products supporting ADOBE, (Scott Kelby, Laura Shoe etc.) have to also be planning on changing their business model in the future. They provide a lot of support to amateur photographers. Those professionals that use CS and LR on a daily basis don't really need their help since they have people in the office or network that help them out and thus really have no benefit. Can you imagine the amount of books and videos that will no longer be produced to help people learn CS and LR?

Strictly from a marketing perspective:
It will be interesting to see how the market shifts in support for other products out there will it not? What will we do with all those books and videos currently sitting on our shelves that teach us how to use Photoshop?

Right now Kelby appears to be one of the cheerleaders of this abomination, I don't know about Lynda.com or Laura Shoe, etc.
The interesting part is that Kelby's customers appear to be the most affected by this, so I don't know what they gain from helping Adobe sell their greedy plans.

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 14:06 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)

I bet that Microsoft is watching this play out with a lot of interest. Adobe is doing what they have dreamed for a long time: leveraging their almost monopolistic hold on a software market to force their users into a steady revenue model.

If Adobe succeeds at this, I will give it 2 years before every mayor player in the industry does the same. I'm thinking so far Autodesk (Autocad), Microsoft (Office and Windows), Antivirus firms (Symantec, Karspersky, etc) and any brand that gains the upper hand in the market will do it.

This has nothing to do with Piracy or "helping customer to pay for an expensive software" as many Adobe shills and fanboys are saying here and in other forums. It is simple, it is the old golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

Direct link | Posted on May 10, 2013 at 13:54 UTC as 137th comment
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CarlosNunezUSA: A very nice article by Corel . I think they are the best alternative to Adobe and have really strong products. The problem is that they have no Mac Version which is a pity. I would encourage you to leave a message on their page requesting an OsX version. They cannot do that in 2 days, but I guess my CS6 version can hold until Corel is ready, if they make the commitment. Now would be a good time for Corel CEO to put on the big pants and challenge Adobe with an annoucement.

http://corelblogs.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/corel-is-all-about-giving-users-choice/#comments

Possibly... but I love how they made Adobe Flash dissapear in 2 months :) and I will love it more if Tim Cook decides tomorrow to put some hard resources into Apperture and make Lightroom dissapear too.

BTW, your shift is over, time for the other Adobe shill to start posting on this board defending your pos company.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 22:44 UTC
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thomas2279f: Interesting to see the Share price at the moment - although still holding up well... perhaps there gamble will pay off...?

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/adbe/real-time

They will be good until there is a real alternative.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 22:13 UTC
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wwings: Buzz off adobe. And scot kelby last time I buy your books.

I never paid a cent to Scott Kelby, I find his books overrated, but...Adobe is what he sells, so he is probably selling his soul to keep his business afloat.
There are many other businesses that will hold their nose and jump in because there is no real alternative at the moment, and that is the reason why Adobe is doing it, they know they can hold many people hostage and make a ton of money, and if it backfires, they will be back selling copies and saying "Sorry".
There is no loyalty in the business world.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 22:12 UTC
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rasummers: Here is an interesting article about Adobe CC. http://terrywhite.com/5-myths-about-adobe-creative-cloud/

You are probably working for Adobe but anyway, here is a very good response for that "article" about "myths":

1. If you recently paid to upgrade to CS6, especially if you're a "Master Collection" customer, you're getting reamed.
2. You're going to be pestered once a month to make sure you've paid your "Adobe bill".
3. You've lost control of when/what you purchase. I put off upgrading to CS6 for a year because the additional features weren't compelling enough for me to sink the money into. You won't have that option in the future.
4. Adobe's sold out their loyal long-term customers in order to get a recurring monthly revenue stream.
5. No matter which Adobe product you use, unless you were buying it BRAND NEW every single year, you will end up spending more money to get basically the same stuff via Creative Cloud. My CS6 Master Collection upgrade cost me $525. Once my "discount year" is up, I'll be paying a minimum of $600. Not when I feel like it. Every single year.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 21:59 UTC

A very nice article by Corel . I think they are the best alternative to Adobe and have really strong products. The problem is that they have no Mac Version which is a pity. I would encourage you to leave a message on their page requesting an OsX version. They cannot do that in 2 days, but I guess my CS6 version can hold until Corel is ready, if they make the commitment. Now would be a good time for Corel CEO to put on the big pants and challenge Adobe with an annoucement.

http://corelblogs.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/corel-is-all-about-giving-users-choice/#comments

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 21:54 UTC as 320th comment | 6 replies
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1879 comments in total)
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Biowizard: QUOTE: "The reason behind the subscription-only move is the logistics of supporting two sets of software. The last 12 months of development was brutal. And there were results we were not happy with. We have decided to focus on the CC products."

Er, HELLO? Just HOW hard is it to REMOVE the "phone-home-and-disable-me" code to convert CC back into a stand-along CS version?

I never thought I would be encountering so much SNAKE OIL at one time!

The guy is full of it and he knows it.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 12:29 UTC
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