DA photo: I have been a Canon EOS user since 1998. I had many Canon film bodies and several DSLRs plus the 7D, 70D and now the 7DII. Since 1998 I have been reading posts about Canon failing and not being as good as other cameras. They still lead. I don't really care where buttons are placed but I do care about menu logic so I can find things. I do sports and have done weddings. I have successfully used the 7D, 70D, and 7DII. The 80d looks good and considering how much I have used the 18-135 stm I think that both the lens and the 70D were due upgrades. I bought the 7DII for frame rate, focus tracking, and broad frame coverage. I buy Canon because of Canon lenses. I don't nit pick about details after owning many different bodies. If I didn't have a 7DII I would buy an 80D as I successfully did sports with the 70d.. My main concerns are keeper rate (best from 7DII) and usable pictures. I don't bash canon, nikon, sony or others. They are all better than anything I used in 1998. .
If you are getting out of focus pics with your 7D2 have Canon look at it or adjust the AF yourself with micro focus adjustments.
XeroJay: 4k should be standard on every camera canon releases by now. Even smartphone mfgs aren't hesitating to put it in every new model now. If canon keeps trickling out these incremental rehashed updates, there will be nothing left for even die hard canonites to defend.
Even dpr stated they haven't seen a smartphone with 4k video that recorded 4k video that provided more actual resolution over 1080 aka 2k.
rrccad: wow .. so the internet experts have only 4K to whine about? then I guess canon did a good job on the update.
curious and interesting to see the performance of livewiew. I would imagine with each DiGiC generation that will get better and better. it's got to be a bunch of heavy lifting calculating from 24 million AF points.
27 f/8 points is remarkable at this level of camera.
a very nice and well thought out upgrade from the 70D or from upgrading from a rebel class camera.
will be interesting to see how the sensor does and how well the points work.
for shame - no EVF support and no 4k .. just to shut everyone up about it.
canon also has to get it's act together from DSLR <> power shot firmware. this could have had focus peaking (assuming it does not) without much problem.
what's with the GPS - does it have or not?
Let me know when 8k is up. Skip a generation of technology always. 4k is only noticeable if your eyes are very close to the screen.
Tremint: Canon buy Samsung camera unit. Kick out the old timers.
You don't buy a poor performing company.
Favorable Exponynt: Tell me what is the use of power zoom? Is it for people who cannot be bothered to turn the zoom ring themselves? The only thing I like about this camera is the improved AF. For Video, go mirrorless. The only reason people use dslrs for video is it used to be a cheap way to use good glas and a big sensor without breaking the bank and there weren't yet good mirrorless systems. 1080p is fine for the occasional film a photographer will make. Put in 4k when tech is fast and cheap enough so that everybody can use it. Say in another 4 years or so. Canon should really go back to three aps-c dslr's entry mid and pro and make a decent mirrorless system for video minded people.
Canon intends to have tv cameras in place for nbc to broadcast the 2020 Olympics in 8k.
SmilerGrogan: Does anyone know if it shares the sensor with the C100II or any of the other Canon movie cameras?
Different aspect ratio of image sensors
Donnie G: Pass the hankies to the whiners, because Canon is about to sell another gazillion APS-C cameras and kit lenses again folks. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those whiners are among the first ones in line to buy this new Canon kit too.
It's not about the specs folks, it's about the system. EOS 80D body + EF-S 18-135 nanoUSM IS kit lens + PZ-E1 power zoom adaptor + DM-E1 Mic = a budget minded selfie stills/YouTube video shooter's wet dream come true that no other camera system under $2,200 can duplicate. Even the pros will find this economical, light weight, and easy to use setup drool worthy. APS-C, ILCs are definitely alive and well at Canon. :))
"Somewhere" behind? Canon's aps-c sensor is barely smaller than sony's being 1.6x vs. 1.5x. M43 is all the way back at 2.0 crop factor.
Franka T.L.: This got Digit 6 image processor but the G7X-II got the Digit 7 , made you wonder if Canon are just doing a stop gap here. This is clearly moving the platform towards amateur / consumer hybrid market sector than the traditional more enthusiast / hobbyist market.
I wager Canon probably do not want to spend too much R&D into these seeing that the market is pretty much shrinking and Mirrorless is something they need to look into dearly ( why bother with a DSLR when your intent is Photo and Video both )
Digic is just the name if Canon's cpu. They out the speed cpu needed to accomplish the design required. G7 X2 does 8 fps 80D 7 fps. I'm sure 80D has other hardware the G7 X2 does not.
vastunghia: Picking one of the 19 points on the 70D is a bit of a pain in the neck, with the current controller. I'm afraid on the 80D this is going to be a real nightmare.
...from another "let me log into this 'other' account to bash this new camera" poster.
Lawrencew: Lots of nice new features and tempting upgrades, but at the end of the day if the sensor is no real improvement on my 70D in terms of noise and dynamic range, then I will give it a miss.At the launch price, the 80D is almost as expensive as a 7DMKII. So if AF , FPS and weather sealing are your bag, that's a better buy for wildlife photogs.
And at this price point it also goes head to head with the A6300. Looking forward to see how they compare. Especially if I can use my Canon lenses on the A6300.
Hopefully the 6D MK II will get the same or similar feature set - now that really will be a winner and I wouldn't hesitate to buy that.
"Almost"...quit grasping at straws and weak arguments like so many other "whiners" coming out since 11pm last night.
ttran88: I have to wonder, Pentax releases the K1 and gets all sorts of kudos from different brands of shooters. But with Canon's recent releases it gets bashed left and right. Are people just against Canon as a brand? Or are the recent releases not very exciting?
Trolls log into their "other" dpr account to post flame bait bashing Canon to be bad little boys when Canon announces a new camera.
paulnelson88: Other than having a ton of canon lenses why would someone get this instead of the A6300 coming out? The video and photos look to be much better on the Sony.
Well sony has a short attention span that's why :D
Jonathan F/2: Camera. Of. The. Year! Pentax/Ricoh is pulling out all the stops! I can't wait to get my hands on this monster of a camera. Time to sell those obsolete Sony A7RII cameras now!
Your point is off base. You are comparing apples to oranges dslr vs evil cameras.
DVT80111: Great job. 38Mpx plus 5 axis IBIS makes Sony A7Rii look like an overpriced camera.
PKDanny: Great News!!
Where's mid-range body??? I hope Pentax will announce a new Pentax FF mid-range soon.
This is all you get from Ricoh in 35mm
Battersea: Wow, that grip. Thanks Pentax! I will not buy but great job on this! More competition is better!
Ricoh not Pentax. Pentax is now like Polaroid. Just a name.
...to try and win new customers with no profit margin pricing !
Only 11 years late to the game!
photominion: Sounds amazing..
But the cpu seems to be quite weak..
Why such low speed movie rec?
At least the buffer is reasonable, if it can handle 27 RAW files (almost 2 GB, I guess?)
Slow video recording? Huh?
$1800? Low end.