FamlilyPhotographer: how many crosstype are there???
And still just in the center of the viewfinder
whatta: In general I wonder why a dedicated camera is not better in almost all aspects than a phone.
https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/1080p 60 fps720p 240 fps
10fps still (without autofocus)
timelapse and gsp as already mentioned.
these are missing from these canons.
Gesture: Is this Canon's entry-level DSLR?
No. Entry model is SL1.
xsamie: It's not whining. really. The main complaint is that if you already have a rebel or similar, you are getting very little new. It is not an upgrade, at all. Even if pictures are your main field, you still get very little more. Wifi? If you are a canon user and needed wi-fi, you probably already bought a wi-fi solution. Like I have. lol It is 2015, it's a little too late. Touchscreen is probably most useful in video, and you are getting 30fps(!). I rather buy used L glass for my d500/d600 for photos, which is a bit of a shame. Has it been 4+years?
Canon is just protecting its upper market. It is never fair to underdeliver and live off your name for ever. Eventually, things will backfire.
People will buy these cameras, sure. But know that for a similar price you can get timelapse, stock animation, multiple custom buttons, wi-fi, 60fps, touchscreen, camera stabilization. etc
Anyways, I had been waiting to upgrade, but it has been to long. @Xmas I left canon, sadly so.
New models are rarely big updates. But for a new user or someone with a 6 year old camera it's a great camera. I'm interested in it big time. T6s is a small camera with high end features. My slr came out 9.5 years ago.
mpgxsvcd: I really don’t understand why they put the little screen on top of the camera. That is the last place I would want information to be displayed. I have to bring the camera down to be able to check that information. What is the need for it anyway? Can’t all of that information just be displayed on the LCD screen on the back of the camera?
It's a low power lcd screen. Allows you to see camera settings without having to rotate the camera. It's very natural as you have the camera in your hands. it's faster than using the bid lcd on the back and again uses less power.
DFPanno: 13 year Canon digital shooter.
I wouldn't buy either.
I'm a 11 year Canon and might get the T6s. Packs a lot in a small body like the return to the Drebel or XT with top LCD!
Lawrencew: I really don't understand your comment "As far as I can remember though, Canon has never offered us two cameras with the same sensor and asked us to pay more for one, to get some extra features before"
Until the arrival of the 20mp 70D/7DMKII and now the 24mp sensor, Canon had several models with the 18mp sensor on offer at the same time from the 1200D right up to the 7D. All of which offered "extra features" to justify their place in the line up.
70d and 7d2 aren't the same overall body size or construction.
Simon97: Surprise, surprise. Pathetic image quality. Why bother reviewing cameras with pin-head sized sensors. I thought DPR stopped this awhile ago. There are many good cameras that need a review. Please put the effort into that.
Whether you choose to believe this or not, DPR says they get no advice/input/direction from amazon on the camera's they choose to review or the ratings to give the cameras.
Because its not your standard p&s camera. It's android. They make it a point to review products that aren't ordinary models.
Voldenuit: How on earth did this abomination get 70%?
The Olympus E-P1 and GF1, two seminal (and fondly remembered) cameras that popularized the mirrorless interchangeable camera landscape, both got 66%.
Is there some new mandate that 'No Camera Be Left Behind'?
Dude, ratings aren't universal but are against its competitors. So this camera isn't rated compared to dslrs!
Wow, so many haters out this morning. Glad I don't know you!
So its the smallest and also the slowest 18-50something zoom too!
photoclassestampa: What a disappointment. I was hoping the new iteration of the 5D (I have the MK III) would be higher resolution (yep), with wi-fi, even higher expandable ISO, more FPS and 4k or better video. So disappointed! I thought the 7D MKII was a hand down meaning the new 5D would kick. But nuttin'. I am a photojournalist and need a camera that keeps up with the latest technology, not one that can deliver more pixels than I could ever use. C'mon Canon. You used to be better than this.
The 5Ds isn't the 5D4. That's coming later.
Thermidor: This really doesn't make a lot of sense. The 5D line is considered professional grade. I would get a full frame body because I want something competent, if not outstanding for most shooting situations. In this regard, the 5DS/R seems to be catered towards a generation of pixel peepers looking for absolute sharpness than being a genuine workhorse. If you want something dedicated for studio or fine arts photography, use a medium format or get one of those Foveon sensor Sigma bodies.
High MP in 35mm camera being for pixel peepers? Gee, and I thought they were targeted at professional photographers just like the 1Ds cameras were! Oh the immaturity of posters these days!
dwill23: First impressions from a long time Canon user....
I shelled out the $3000 for the EOS D30, 3.2MP 3FPS camera; Canon's first D-SLR. And most between, like the 20D, way ahead of it's time.
I sold my 5D3 two months ago in anticipation for the 'next big thing'. I was 100% sure it would have 4k and dual-pixel AF. WRONG.
What we see here is a 5D3 with a 50mp sensor shoved in, and not a class-leading one at that.
Canon doesn't want you to buy a 5DS they want you to buy a 4k Video camera ALONG WITH a 5DS.
My dream camera was FF with Dual Pixel AF for awesome DOF in my videos.
In an attempt to not cannibalize Canon's even-higher-priced offerings they tone down the video features and offer 50mp which the guy in the video points out lower S&M Raw formats cause 50mp is too much for weddings!
= Pointless. Disappointing.
I was laughed at when I told all my friends we'd all be shooting Sony one day and this just moved that date closer.
Nerd: probably because few people, other than businesses, are buying "monitors" anymore. It's all tablets and phoneS. My desktop is 6.5 years old (no desire to upgrade and rarely use it) and its monitor is 8 years old again it works just fine.
igor_s: IMO they are trying to bring the numbers rage to the dslr area. Why would a studio/wedding pro need 50 Mp (in the latter case, instead of good 25K ISO?). 50 Mp is 50 Mp everywhere. It needs perfect lenses, focusing and steadiness both of the camera and the object, or very short exposure time while the high ISO performance will suck.However, for the company it cost little if they just upscaled the 7d2 sensor w/o dual-pixel phase detect circuitry. If someone needs a camera for landscape and is not satisfied with panorama mode on something sub-$1000...
But overall it's a right idea - to install different sensors ia a standard body. Everyone can take what he/she needs.
Guess you've never seen large print advertising, eh?
Smokymtnhiker: It will sell like hot cakes for a couple of months but the excitement will soon fade after the 50MP A7Rii is released with it's superior sensor and smaller price tag.
Looks like a nice new ultra-wide lens though. I will make good use of it on my A7R if the reviews look good.
...right....because sony always outsells Canon. Keep dreaming.
Mister H: So Chuck, tell us again how your brand new cameras aren't as good as your existing ones?
If this guy has responsibility for Canon's marketing I'm surprised they are still going!
He's just describing video differences, not a major thing for those wanting the utmost resolution. I've never heard if a MF camera with video, have you?
Average User: First, I wish Canon every success in this endeavor. As an announcement it seems a little odd, but maybe not so. Maybe the announcement, this long before there is any camera to buy, is intended to stop the flow of customers to the D810. On the other hand, deference to the 5DMkIII seem aimed at wanting to encourage in the mean time, those who would purchase that camera to so so. It does feel as though we are near the point where the value of extra mp doesn't really offset the performance degradation in low light. After a lot of experience with the A7r I returned to Nikon for the better lens selection...but chose the D750 instead of the 810 because of low light performance. From my perspective, what would make cameras more enticing now is not more megapixels, but better low light performance, better dynamic range, quicker live view response... But notwithstanding, I wish Canon success with this.
It is not "long" before they are available. 6 to 8 weeks which is more than consumer models typically from Campn but less time than for 1-series launches or new L lenses. And from what ice seen the 5D3 has outsold the d800's.
kadardr: This announcement surely brought out a legion of trolls getting high on megapixels.
Yep, all the sony, fujiFILM, and m4/3 fanbois out to hate.