kadardr: One thing is sure: 7D MII is among the best ones in the APS-C bunch. Not behind of any. When I compare APS-C (7D MII this time) with full frame sensors the real difference is in the S/N ratio (noise level) and color depth. In that regard FF is better, way better from ISO 1600. Smaller sensors do not substitute FF, just complement it.
1 stop isn't that significant and in order to get the performance of the 7D2 in 35mm you have to Pat $6000
Timbukto: I see they added the original 7D. I'm astonished at how well it compares. I used the 700D as a baseline for what I thought the 7D would perform. I owned a 7D and a t3i before and IMO it performed slightly worse than the t3i. This last 7D test shows its still competitive. I understand that the 7D used a dual DIGIC architecture and perhaps alternating sensor readout processing and I'm now wondering despite the old design if something tightened up in their manufacturing processes for which the IQ of more recent 7D's have much improved? Can Dpreview staff comment as to the age of the 7D being tested? Then again I forgot the 700D probably has some PDAF pixels as well? The original 7D looks *far* better than the 700D, and it is either variance and improvement in the 7D, or variance in testing I would wager. Or strange significant drop of performance in the 700D that went unnoticed.
7D is Canon`s lowest noise 18 MP dslr. You get what you pay for.
PhotoKhan: When we initially access the comparison it is set up to show Jpeg samples of the 7DII on the top left pane, the 7D on the top right, the Nikon 7100 on the lower left and the Sony a6000 on the lower right pane.
When we switch to RAW, no mater in what particular area of the scene you click the sampler over it is extremely clear that the Sony is far superior to the other 3.
DPR used a new high end lens on the sony which is why in this comparison it looks clearer than others.
Joe Mayer: No real surprises. The mk2 seems a tad better than mk1 and still far behind FF.
1 stop, as it's always been, isn't "far" behind.
Retzius: Looks pretty good!
BTW, the Pentax K-3 looks amazing.
Amazing what one person sees because they want to see. I see same noose in the k3 as the others.
R Johns: It seems like a fine camera. However...
I just want to ask Canon why they made it so you could wirelessly Live View and adjust Exposure from a smartphone on the 70D, but the 7D MKII you cannot...
Given the 7D MKII already has a fixed LCD, this seems like a MAJOR ball was dropped... lol
The 7D2 has a more metal body than the 70D which is why wifi isn't in the 7D2
stratplaya: Wow. DPR feels that no 4K video in a smartphone is a con. I wonder what they will call this little gem?
Where did they state that? Last I saw them state was they hadn't seen 4k in a phone that showed any benefit over recording just 1080.
digiart: Wow!, so many colors. Pentax is the Ben & Jerry's of DSLR's :)
Ricoh not Pentax. Pentax is only a label anymore.
Joe Ogiba: No 4K is a showstopper for me. I might get the new waterproof 4K Verizon Sony Xperia Z3v when my 2 year contract expires for my HTC Droid DNA in January. It also has wireless charging and 128GB Micro SDXC support.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oevRDwKJbKE
You know DPR has yet to see a phone that records 4k video that actually records detail worth using that recording mode over using 1080, right? They've posted that before. 4k in a phone as.of now is just recording unnessasary large amounts of data. The s5 takes 128gb cards.
Jogger: Why is colour information so important in automotive applications? Wouldnt they just go monochrome and gain the efficiency of not having the colour filters.
Consumers, people just like color and it's as simlle as that.
RedFox88: Google sold off their Motorola phone business a few months ago at a huge loss hanging onto patents.
Sorry but your link doesn't work. The news item I saw when it happened was about $10 billion to buy Motorola then google sold it off for $2 billion. That's a huge loss!
Google sold off their Motorola phone business a few months ago at a huge loss hanging onto patents.
Tonkotsu Ramen: At that price...... it will not sell well..
That's without 2 year contract price. That's a similar price as other new phones as a stand alone purchase.
Blackdog68: Wow, the 800 pound gorilla in the electronics field has spoken and every other camera company should be nervous. This camera checks lots of boxes: 1/8000 shutter, 1/250 flash sync, more phase detect sensors than the competition, 15FPS. It's an impressive spec sheet. Actual performance from this back sided APS-C sensor is yet to be seen, and the AF as well is untested, but if I'm Nikon or Canon and I've been waiting to really get into the mirrorless market, you may have waited too long.
Lenses that only go up to 55mm are in the common kit lens range and not specialty lenses photographers desire.
Of which only 3 are longer than 55mm and 2 of those are super zooms 18-200 and 50-200. Multiple 18-55s and 16-50s.
Good luck with that.
Anastigmat: sort of reminds me of the year Nikon introduced a full frame sports camera that does 10 fps, but Canon stubbornly refused to go along by insisting that the 1.3x crop was better for sports and brought out the 1DMKIV. We all know how that argument ended when Canon brought out the FF 1D-X and the 1.3x crop sensor bit the dust. When the Nikon D750 successor increases its frame rate from the current 6.5 to about 8 or 10, then the 7D series will bite the dust.
So says the pentax? troll. You are mistaken, what you are referring to from nikon didn't do 10 fps. And keep dreaming about nikon adding many fps. Cropping their 24 MP camera to aps-c would be 15 MP and still with inferior AF to the 7D2's new system.
realmadeira: does anyone know what double DIGIC6's should have impact on in 7mkII?
And the 7D had 2 digic cpus too.
TheDreamingWatchman: I'm sure this is a very good camera.The AF-speed will be quite impressive.
However the 7DII is just not sexy! There is not one WOW-feature!I'm missing the tilted screen which is very useful in certain situations.Why is there no touch screen like on the 70D?Why did Canon not implement Wi-Fi like on the 6D and 70D? (I don't need Wi-Fi to upload pictures; I want Wi-Fi to control the Camera remotely, which is an amazing feature for wildlife.)I always had the feeling that Canon is so ungenerous: Why no time-lapse in Camera like Fuji? Why not several shots triggered by the self-timer like Nikon? These features hardly cost anything, but Canon is just too stingy!However my most important reservation is ISO noise and dynamic range. The ISO performance of the 7D was just pathetic; the dynamic range was not very good.The 7DII will be a little bit better in these regards and a little bit better is just not good enough for 2014!
So a touch screen in 2014 is a "wow" feature? Really? Same with wifi and flip out screen? Those are amateur options. Sports and wildlife shooters usually aren't in areas with wifi networks and can't waste GBs of phone data sending pics to wifi outdoors.
petr marek: It has Full HD video, yes? Really? Wow!I can shoot 4K video with phase detection autofocus with my Samsung S5 phone...
DPR staff has commented that they haven't seen a phone with video quality that makes recording 4k video worthwhile over shooting 1080 video.