Vitruvius: No camera sensor shift IS, no lens optical IS... means that it would either need to be a MUCH better system than cameras like the EM-5 in some other way or much cheaper.
An EM-5 doesn't really compare IQ wise though. LOL.
peevee1: 45/1.8 for 25% less then the Oly 45/1.8 covering significantly smaller circle. As usual, Oly lenses are overpriced, even the cheaper ones. ;)
Apples and oranges really.
ChuckTa: I found some pic sample from 45/1.8 and it looks really good. http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=newproduct_samsung&page=1&divpage=1&ss=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=3549
58 and 43mm filters hard to find...? wha?
You can buy screw on hoods, but Samsung's lenses usually have very good flare control anyway so its unecessary.
Love all the spec-sheet warriors here, because totally, having a max sensitivity of ISO1600 means that the camera is worse than a D800.
Okay sure, it is very expensive and maybe a bit overpriced. But seriously? Comparing it to a D800?
This is probably one of the first leica's I can take seriously. It's quite unusual that they leave so much customisation open; its almost as much as a DSLR. I think what will be most interesting is the fact that the leica can mount DSLR lenses now since the live view will let them be used. -puts an EF 50mm f1.8 II on a M-
they mention its rectilinear; this lens has zero distortion. If samyang manages to pull this off, this will be one of the best primes by a long shot. I cant wait to try this out on a x pro1 lol!
Valentinian: This is high-level compromise: on one hand Canon must keep all the existing lenses from becoming obsolete; on the other hand it is already known that mirorless is better than mirror reflex. Canon solution is much better than Pentax. The "hybrid" solution, combining Phase and Contrast AF is the future.However, when the Hybrid AF will be implemented also in the mirrorless cameras this "compromise" solution will have a though competion
60mm f2.8, 85mm f1.4 from samsungfuji 35 1.4.... list goes on.
IcyVeins: The new Sony camera got over 500 comments on its preview. I doubt this overpriced hulking non-upgrade of a sucker's camera gets even half as many. Canon hasn't upgraded its sensor in three years, that's an absolute joke.
Joke's on you because this is a different sensor to the 18mpx sensor before. 18mpx is a standardised canon frame resolution now. Theres none of that colour shift on the 550D at 6400~12800 in the samples.
If you think Sony is doing that well, maybe to some vehement fans but in general they're not selling great. Canon, Nikon with every product outsell sony, for a good reason. On paper Sony are better but in use I find nikon and canon in all aspects, better.
STM, as in voice coil motor.
They should hurry up and do the same with the 50mm 1.8
I don't think any of the NEX with its kit lens could produce as good images...
does this mean we will have lens reviews as well soon? Yes please.
Rachotilko: Hey, for $469 you can get this: http://www.dpreview.com/products/sigma/lenses/sigma_17-50_2p8_os
It seems digital photography's golden times are over:
Some 4-7 years ago it was possible to buy P&S compact cameras with excellent optics and 1/1.6" sized sensors for reasonable price. DSLRs were expensive, sure, but their prices descended constantly.
Then the 2008 came, and P&S compacts started their descent into the hell of disposability with a complete disregard of any decency optics-wise (too much of a decentered lens lottery) and the crazy MP and MZ races.
As I am not keen on mirrors (& resulting bulk), so my hope was named "mirrorless". I also hoped mirrorless stuff gets cheaper over time, basically replacing both DSLR's and small sensored compacts. But the opposite happened with mirrorless equipment prices rising each new generation.
Nowadays, the only option for me is a DSLR as the compacts turned rubbish, and mirrorlesses are offered for these exorbitant prices.
Are you aware that a 17-50 f2.8 on m43 is a completely different lens to a 12-35 f2.8...?
I'd beg to differ that the 'golden days are over'. We simply have choice now.
Cameras are only as disposable as the user makes them out to be and it seems your judgement is that the current crop of cameras are disposable.
De-centred lenses have always been a problem.
Riccardo IT: Too expensive.
too expensive when it outperforms more expensive camera. Cool.
Sony, just how many bodies do we need?
VipinJoshi: Finally, the Tilt LCD of A33 makes a comeback in the entry level model, the LCD Size & Resolution reduces though. Have been using the A57 for quite a while now and the low light High ISO JPEGs are mind boggling! They seem to outperform almost everything from Canon & Nikon, barring the Full Frames.
The icing on the cake is the SAM 18-135 bundle (across the range), making for a versatile kit at at amazing price. The (exceptional) EXMOR sensor finally gets a better lens to show its true colours (pun intended), as the 18-55 quality wasn't upto the sensor's potential.
Haven't been this surprised since i saw the Olympus OMD-E5 samples. The features set seems exactly the same as the (amazing) A57, which is a good thing. This one looks like a segment beater to me.
Lupti: Ok, I say take an ordinary DSLR, set it to B/W and take the same shots. I doubt that most people can distinguish them from the Leica shots if not told from what camera they are. Really. I also would go as far as taking an ordinary P&S with B/W mode and compare them with these.I don´t see the point of this camera aside from being a new toy for people with too much money. I also never understood what´s so great about the Leica system, the cameras and lenses cost megabucks for what reason? Handmade in Germany, a red dot? But the parts are so expensive there isn´t money anmyore for a higher resolution display? Okay...there are still too much people with too much money.And no, there is no envy at all.Now I think some people will tell me I´m trolling(I´m not) or that I don´t understand the special art of photographing with a Leica, but really, I couldn´t care less.
normally the leica argument does not hold. However forget this is even a leica for a second. It is a B+W camera, designed for massive dynamic range because of the lack of colour filter array (which causes light loss).
hermanofarias: I think there is some kind of demosicing. If you use dcraw to extract a B&W tiff file from the raw, of any dslr, without demosicing, at 1:1 view, you actually see the the pixels, and not a smooth image such the examples in the DPR preview.
The lens alone does most of the aliasing; most lenses will not be able to out-resolve this sensor.
bigdaddave: 1930's throwback intentionally crippled and they want how much for it?
If I ever see someone with one of these I will make sure I laugh at them
Petka, bigdadave, you guys need to learn what a bayer filter is, and what a photosite is as well. This is entirely different to post processing, think of it as an entirely different type of film.
It is NOT stupid. There are technical and objective reasons behind B&W versus colour.
It saddens me how not technical minded most people who use cameras are. I'm not even going to call them photographers.
A potentially better sensor but I have a feeling they deliberately cheaped out on the ADCs because at higher gain levels the sensor starts having hot pixels (ISO3200 onwards). This is crippleware.
I'm pretty sure the D5200 and D7100 will have the same sensor, but with enhanced ADCs to stop that kind of crosstalk from occuring.
Tape5: One of the greatest attributes of this site is that you can click on just about any article and find people discussing issues totally unrelated
Batteries …. Prejudice against Chinese workers Lenses…..nature vs nurture ISO sensitivity……psychosocial problems in Central AmericaTethering …..18th century German philosophy
It is funny.
This is certainly one of the best posts I've seen on this site.